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GAF Indie Game Development Thread 2: High Res Work for Low Res Pay
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ZehDon
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Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. I've taken another stab it, using the full range of dithering, which I think has captured that cloud effect. I used some fractal images for inspiration, which I think worked well. I'd appreciate any further feedback:
Original for comparison:
VisceralBowl
Member
Yeah, I believe you have to go through Warioworld for anything else.
EDIT: Seems you already picked up on that.
I finally did last night what I've been putting off forever... coding the actual earnest save system.
this is obviously a temp menu and a temp screen and everything, in the final game I'll fully design some nice menus and think about what info from each save to display and so forth.
http://www.gfycat.com/FrigidCarelessBlackrussianterrier
the important thing for now is that it all works and the potential is there to grab and display any info I want from each save file.
this is obviously a temp menu and a temp screen and everything, in the final game I'll fully design some nice menus and think about what info from each save to display and so forth.
http://www.gfycat.com/FrigidCarelessBlackrussianterrier
the important thing for now is that it all works and the potential is there to grab and display any info I want from each save file.
Well, I got 100 views on my blog! Using twitter really helped. I think I will update my twitter when I post a new blog. Though I wonder if that's annoying to people...
Sadly no one has posted yet a comment yet or followed.
However I've been having fun! I just realized in paint.net (what I use for graphics) that their is a way to blow up a sprite without losing it's sprite-ness. So I tested it out with my dragon... While the biggest one is... well...
I do think the 300% one actually looks pretty good. I mean it is a Dragon.
Normal
300%
500%
Sadly no one has posted yet a comment yet or followed.
However I've been having fun! I just realized in paint.net (what I use for graphics) that their is a way to blow up a sprite without losing it's sprite-ness. So I tested it out with my dragon... While the biggest one is... well...
I do think the 300% one actually looks pretty good. I mean it is a Dragon.
Normal
300%
500%
BlastProcessing
Member
Well, I got 100 views on my blog! Using twitter really helped. I think I will update my twitter when I post a new blog. Though I wonder if that's annoying to people...
Sadly no one has posted yet a comment yet or followed.
However I've been having fun! I just realized in paint.net (what I use for graphics) that their is a way to blow up a sprite without losing it's sprite-ness. So I tested it out with my dragon... While the biggest one is... well...
I do think the 300% one actually looks pretty good. I mean it is a Dragon.
Normal
300%
500%
I think 300% looks great, but I'm a sucker for chunky pixels.
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
300%
I think 300% is the way to go. Looks impressive without being ridiculous.
marvelharvey
Member
If any 3D artists are interested in developing a game in Japan with ex-Sony/Capcom staff, please send a PM. Bar one team member, we're all bilingual, so no knowledge of Japanese is necessary.
(is this appropriate for this thread?)
(is this appropriate for this thread?)
Agreed. I would suggest trying 200% as well.
SeanNoonan
Member
A small one today...
ZehDon
Member
I think 200% is definitely the way to go. Looks good, and consistent with the rest of the image. 300% is also fine, but I'd actually only scale one or two boss enemies to that size - help them stand out.Here's 200%
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oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Here's 200%
Also two other enlarged enemy groups.
go with 200%, i like it. As for the rest of the pixel art, i'm digging it. What are those last two guys supposed to be made of btw? Assuming coal or maybe onyx.
See I shall admit, I didn't actually draw these (they came in one of the RPG Maker's DLC packs). Though I have edited them (the wings on the Winter dragon are more destroyed than the original), and I recolored the other enemies. The last two look like stone, but I changed them dark and call them Shadow Golem and Shadow Golem Mk 2.
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
This got me wondering about something. There was a ton of rpg maker stuff that was part of a humble bundle a while back and i picked up a rpgmaker something or another plus a crap load of dlc. Is it possible/legal to use the provided artwork from these in games not made in rpgmaker? Anyone know?
I have no idea.
Also I made a second combined sprite.
Actually I do know when you buy "licenses" on their website for tilesets, sprites, etc. I think you need to pay more to get the license to use them in non-RPG makers.
thomasmahler
Moon Studios
http://www.warsoup.com/RacingGame/RacingGameWeb.html
Kept going a bit on the Racer.
A to Accelerate
X to Brake
RB to Drift
B to Boost (when the drift meter is orange)
LB to shoot Green Shell
Y to Restart Race
Splitscreen is in and it should all around feel quite a ton better now
Here's 200%
300% seems like the size of a final boss but 200% seems small enough not to seem like the big bad but still big enough to seem like a daunting threat. Looks great!
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. I've taken another stab it, using the full range of dithering, which I think has captured that cloud effect. I used some fractal images for inspiration, which I think worked well. I'd appreciate any further feedback:
Original for comparison:
I think the overall treatment and the dithering works better on your new image, but I liked the contrast between cluttered stars and empty space a bit better on the original one. I'd suggest removing some stars to create contrast, and have lighter blue/red dithering overall, and at other parts of the picture to balance color as well and not have a single colored mass.
Some pixel art space I like, maybe it can help as reference?
Making space using pixel art is hella hard, though, so good luck!
300%
I think both 200 and 300 work quite well. As it's been said, 200 feels more like a regular monster encounter, and 300 for a boss, but I wouldn't go larger.
As far as the sprite edits, I'd focus on the lineart thickness to blend them a bit more : they're obviously not the same scale, but simply by adding an extra layer to the rider, for instance, I think it'd mesh a bit better with the dragon. Not sure, mind you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3h3HHGCjI&feature=youtu.be (video to showcase animation, music, scene scripting, etc)
Finally jumped on the Bandicam bandwagon, and I have to say, you all were right! This is the best recording experience I've had so far!
Still making more characters. It's been a while of asset-making only, so I'm itching to get back to actual game-making. I'll try my hand at the last missing segment of the game, see if I come up with anything worthwhile to show before the end of the day. Maybe more to come later today, then...?
EDIT: Yup, here's a small update more: http://gfycat.com/SickIdioticBovine
Got the bare basics working for depth movement for the beat'em all stages. Now, I need to make this work with multiple enemy boxes/animations: for now having multiple enemy instances kind of breaks everything, so I need to figure out how to individualize them!
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Well curiosity got the better of me and I decided to do some digging. Packs bought from the "non_RM" category from rpg maker website as well as packs listed as free to use here can be used legally in other engines as long as you bought them legitimately. In the end, I don't think I'll use any of their assets for my current game but I certainly wouldn't rule it out for future titles.
May I suggest posting at least a 2x version as well, if not larger? It's hard to see the details otherwise!A small one today...
This post makes me want to throw pokeballs!Here's 200%
Also two other enlarged enemy groups.
SeanNoonan
Member
BlastProcessing
Member
Good to know.
Michael Armbrust
Member
http://www.warsoup.com/RacingGame/RacingGameWeb.html
Kept going a bit on the Racer.
A to Accelerate
X to Brake
RB to Drift
B to Boost (when the drift meter is orange)
LB to shoot Green Shell
Y to Restart Race
Splitscreen is in and it should all around feel quite a ton better now
The game runs but doesn't react to any of my input. I'm in Chrome if that info helps. Other unity web games run fine for me.
Here's 200%
Also two other enlarged enemy groups.
Yea, I like 200% the best.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3h3HHGCjI&feature=youtu.be (video to showcase animation, music, scene scripting, etc)
Finally jumped on the Bandicam bandwagon, and I have to say, you all were right! This is the best recording experience I've had so far!
I love it, as always. Also love the music.
But I think something is of about the scenery still moving into the middle position while the character appears, maybe is better for the scenery to stop before the character starts to appear. so it doesnt look like the character "slides".
Thanks - and I completely agree! That's something I've not yet decided how to fix, as there are a couple options that could all work. I'll probably try speeding up the sliding itself first, so there's less of a wait when the scene starts, though I also need some wait time for entry sound effects, status bar hijinx and other stuff. I was chalking it up to "it's a prototype for now, I'll fix it later" but it's starting to annoy me as well, so it's getting higher and higher on the "to change soon" list :-D
OldmanAndroid
Member
How much do you love bugs you can't reproduce? Even better when the playtester gives very detailed description of all the things that happen when the bug happens, but super vague description of what they were doing to cause the bug.
*Pokes game* "Did that fix it?"
*Pokes again* "How about now?"
*Pokes game* "Did that fix it?"
*Pokes again* "How about now?"
Comparison:
I think I see what you mean, the second one looks like their more on the dragon.
SeanNoonan
Member
Another PD from me...
A Paul Robertson Taito sprite study using the three games I released in 2014; Watch_Dogs, Jack B. Nimble and Far Cry 4
A Paul Robertson Taito sprite study using the three games I released in 2014; Watch_Dogs, Jack B. Nimble and Far Cry 4
thomasmahler
Moon Studios
Did you use an Xbox Controller? It currently only works with controllers, sorry
Also, it'll probably only work on windows, cause the osx button configs are different than on win.
ZehDon
Member
Thanks very much for the feedback! I've gotten it a little further, but I'm going to keep working on it until I'm happy with it. The issue I have is the limited resolution in combination with the limited colour palette, but I'll keep at it!
Haha, these are terrific! I really like the Watch_Dogs one, instantly recognisable.......
Michael Armbrust
Member
Did you use an Xbox Controller? It currently only works with controllers, sorry
Also, it'll probably only work on windows, cause the osx button configs are different than on win.
Oh I was just thinking those were strange keyboard choices haha.
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Is a fun little game. My only comment is that it's quite jarring to go from a vehicle that sticks to the road like glue then to try your sliding feature. It just feels unnatural for your car to then shoot 50' sideways the second you use it.
http://www.warsoup.com/RacingGame/RacingGameWeb.html
Kept going a bit on the Racer.
A to Accelerate
X to Brake
RB to Drift
B to Boost (when the drift meter is orange)
LB to shoot Green Shell
Y to Restart Race
Splitscreen is in and it should all around feel quite a ton better now
NipplesAndToes23
Member
So what kind of tools are y'all using for making games?
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I would suggest Unreal Engine 4 or Unity. I just licensed Unreal Engine 4 a few days ago and I am learning how to do Flat-Shaded Low Poly Art using Blender 3D (a free 3D modeling program) thanks to this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=979517
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
I've decided to start learning Unity.
And holy crap.
This is so much easier than doing everything in code.
And holy crap.
This is so much easier than doing everything in code.
I use Unity mainly because I can use my experience with C# and .NET with it.
Also is really good to give you results quickly and I'm a results-oriented kind of guy.
Pictures ahoy!
So I decided to today to change my game's window. Basically the borders in all of the menu.
NOTE: You can also change the colors on any of them.
Here is what it looked like originally:
And now I have created 3 variants:
Original Variant:
Variant 2:
Variant 3:
Personally, I really like Variant 2 and 3, the darkened boarders and gradient are very nice.
So I decided to today to change my game's window. Basically the borders in all of the menu.
NOTE: You can also change the colors on any of them.
Here is what it looked like originally:
And now I have created 3 variants:
Original Variant:
Variant 2:
Variant 3:
Personally, I really like Variant 2 and 3, the darkened boarders and gradient are very nice.
borborygmus
Member
Unity's UI didn't really "click" with me so I've procrastinated on learning it. I just find it very counterintuitive and weird. I also have the impression that Unity projects are clunky and have bad load times and weird UIs.
Shockingly, Flash is actually a great piece of technology if you're targeting iOS, so I've been using FlashDevelop + ActionScript + Starling Framework (polygonal backend for 2D) for my project. Adobe provides a native compiler for iOS so it automatically builds into a native app and everything just works. Even some complex stuff easily runs at 60fps on an iPhone 4.
If you're targeting desktops / pretty much anything, you can also use HaXe + OpenFL which offers the entire Flash API and builds natively (it can output to a C++ target).
FYI I am a programmer who is not good at art.
VisceralBowl
Member
We're using Unreal 4 at the moment for our main project, though if we get accepted into the Nintendo program we'll be starting a second project on Unity.
Previously we used Cryengine 3, but the documentation and audio stuff wasn't that great.
BlastProcessing
Member
Pictures ahoy!
So I decided to today to change my game's window. Basically the borders in all of the menu.
NOTE: You can also change the colors on any of them.
Here is what it looked like originally:
And now I have created 3 variants:
Original Variant:
Variant 2:
Variant 3:
Personally, I really like Variant 2 and 3, the darkened boarders and gradient are very nice.
To my eyes, Variant 3 looks the best by far.
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Pictures ahoy!
So I decided to today to change my game's window. Basically the borders in all of the menu.
NOTE: You can also change the colors on any of them.
Variant 3:
Personally, I really like Variant 2 and 3, the darkened boarders and gradient are very nice.
I'd go with 3.
learning UE4, ZBrush and 3ds Max. UE4 has blueprints, a system for visual scripting which is relatively easy to pick up for non-coders. It's a fantastic feature, really
pretty sure C++ is used in UE4 scripts.
C++ , I think there are community plugins for C#
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