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GAF spricht Deutsch, zumindest hier drinnen...

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fuenf

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Fuck heute hat's mich an der Kasse erwischt. 4 Kassen auf und überall Schlangen von Senioren... gestern musste ich über euer Kleingeld-rausgeben-Gemecker ja noch schmunzeln aber wenn dann auch noch der Bon nachgerechnet wird ist der Spaß endgültig vorbei.
 

Hammer24

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Fuck heute hat's mich an der Kasse erwischt. 4 Kassen auf und überall Schlangen von Senioren... gestern musste ich über euer Kleingeld-rausgeben-Gemecker ja noch schmunzeln aber wenn dann auch noch der Bon nachgerechnet wird ist der Spaß endgültig vorbei.

Nichtfunktionierende EC Karten sind auch ein Klassiker. Besonders wenn der Kunde misstrauisch ist, dass ihm das Geld evtl. doppelt abgezogen wird...
 

raindoc

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Fuck heute hat's mich an der Kasse erwischt. 4 Kassen auf und überall Schlangen von Senioren... gestern musste ich über euer Kleingeld-rausgeben-Gemecker ja noch schmunzeln aber wenn dann auch noch der Bon nachgerechnet wird ist der Spaß endgültig vorbei.

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KuroNeeko

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I'm just going to throw this out there but, if you're a native English speaker then why learn German? I took a stab at it in high school once, but never really gave it a shot. I'm looking for a new language to learn and it's a toss up between Chinese, Ancient Greek, or Latin.

edit: sorry, I meant to include German in that list!

Chinese would be the best fit for my career and Archaic Greek / Latin would let me read some of the classics in their original language.

I'm not bashing the language, just curious about the perks.

Yup, right now in Tokyo. Bought some bananas while wandering the street to resemble the hairy, long-nosed, uncivilized huge white barbarian.

Where are you? How comes you know German? And how comes you use 'Sie' for me?

Hope the hay fever doesn't get you. Also, it may be a little late now, but you should know that foreigner + banana automatically = monkey in Japan. Get ready for people to say ゴリラみたい! At least you're in time for the cherry blossoms;D
 
Now I know what TheFeedingHand must have felt like yesterday. I just had a job interview (on the phone) in english in a full train ;) I applied for the job about three weeks ago so I wasn't really expecting it.
 
Chinese would be the best fit for my career and Archaic Greek / Latin would let me read some of the classics in their original language.

I'm not bashing the language, just curious about the perks.

You could read all your favorite beers in the right pronounciation! Köstritzer! Clausthaler! Warsteiner! This is a much better read than ancient papyrus rolls.

Hope the hay fever doesn't get you. Also, it may be a little late now, but you should know that foreigner + banana automatically = monkey in Japan. Get ready for people to say ゴリラみたい! At least you're in time for the cherry blossoms;D

Got something worse than hay fever. Never called me anything else than 'gaijin' despite everything I was doing yet. Oh, my bad, 'hansamu' I heard sometimes ;)
 

KuroNeeko

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You could read all your favorite beers in the right pronounciation! Köstritzer! Clausthaler! Warsteiner! This is a much better read than ancient papyrus rolls.



Got something worse than hay fever. Never called me anything else than 'gaijin' despite everything I was doing yet. Oh, my bad, 'hansamu' I heard sometimes ;)

Hey, could be worse!

I wouldn't expect to lose the gaijin moniker anytime soon;D (or ever.)
 
I'm just going to throw this out there but, if you're a native English speaker then why learn German? I took a stab at it in high school once, but never really gave it a shot. I'm looking for a new language to learn and it's a toss up between Chinese, Ancient Greek, or Latin.

Chinese would be the best fit for my career and Archaic Greek / Latin would let me read some of the classics in their original language.

I'm not bashing the language, just curious about the perks.

I hate this attitude.
 

KuroNeeko

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I hate this attitude.

Why? When looking at languages, I like to look at the reasons why people study a certain language. Take German, it's a widely respected language in the fields of science and economics. The thing is, there is an extremely large number of Germans who already speak English. If I want to interact with Germans, chances are they'll probably turn around and reply in English.

I'm not saying English is a superior language, but I am saying that there is a lot of overlap between (meaning in the people who speak) the two languages. So, as a German / English multilingual, what kind of benefits or perks do you enjoy? It could be something as simple as, "I enjoy reading the Classics in German" or "I like learning more about the culture via the language" or I like how "X phrase" carries a certain meaning that I can't translate into English.

Like I said, I'm not bashing your language, I'm looking for reasons why you study German. When I started learning Japanese, it was because it was vastly different than English and encouraged a new way of thinking. It also opened the door to a people who think and communicate in different ways. It was fun and all, now I'm looking for something else? I'm part German (as well as Scottish and Dutch) so I was thinking about German as a possible language.
 

Milchjon

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One exception: snobs and pricks on the Spiegel Online forums use 'Sie' quite often. I guess that's their thing to show that they are 'discussing'.

I always thought that was rather funny, because the SPON forums are one of the most vile and insufferably contrarian places on the German net.

I think Bild was on to something when they decided to only allow comments on certain topics.
 
That counts for SPON as well. Some articles do not permit comments. And you know what kind of trash talk and racism exists there. I guess GAF mods would empty the SPON forums within hours.
 

Rufus

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I know I'd like to pour lava on some "man wird ja wohl noch sagen dürfen"*-types. (*Code for: how dare you disagree with my opinions that are based on anecdotes)

Why? When looking at languages, I like to look at the reasons why people study a certain language. Take German, it's a widely respected language in the fields of science and economics. The thing is, there is an extremely large number of Germans who already speak English. If I want to interact with Germans, chances are they'll probably turn around and reply in English.
Hah. Get ready for a rude awakening, because that's not even true for twenty-somethings these days. As a tourist you can swing it, or if you work at a University or a military base, but you'll be royally screwed outside in the 'real world'.
People will be more patient and accommodating to someone who speaks English or any other western european language than they would be to someone who speaks Russian, Arabic or any other marginalized language. That's the best you can hope for. At the end of the day average English proficiency isn't high enough to hold a conversation, despite what wide-spread use of anglicisms might suggest.

I always thought that was rather funny, because the SPON forums are one of the most vile and insufferably contrarian places on the German net.

I think Bild was on to something when they decided to only allow comments on certain topics.
SPON gleicht sich deren Niveau an. Passt doch. Eine Website hat die Kommentatoren, die sie verdient. Oder so ähnlich.
 

Hackbert

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I´d say: go for Latin. So many languages are latin based, that it helps pretty much if you decide to pick up another language later on.

true dat.. had latin/old greek at school. Glad i learned the basics. Had a great teacher and we were a very very small class of seven. (in the Latein LK und Griechisch GK)....

Ich wollte schon immer eine asiatische Sprache lernen, damit sich mir der asiatische Raum mehr öffnet, da ich an vielerlei Dingen, vor allem gewisser kultureller Philosophien, etc. sehr interessiert bin. Aber bei Gott, meine Zunge hat einen Knoten. Selbst Französisch ist schon absurd für mich. Spanisch schon eher oder italienisch, aber kein Interesse daran.
 

snap0212

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At the end of the day average English proficiency isn't high enough to hold a conversation, despite what wide-spread use of anglicisms might suggest.
That's true. Just recently a guy I went to university with, another Gaffer from the US who works in Germany and another American who works here as a teacher went out to drink. My German buddy was trying to say something along the lines of "Man, I really like blonde girls" but then it turned out to be the most racist thing I've heard in years.
 

Milchjon

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That's true. Just recently a guy I went to university with, another Gaffer from the US who works in Germany and another American who works here as a teacher went out to drink. My German buddy was trying to say something along the lines of "Man, I really like blonde girls" but then it turned out to be the most racist thing I've heard in years.

Haha, please paraphrase.
 

Krelian

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That's true. Just recently a guy I went to university with, another Gaffer from the US who works in Germany and another American who works here as a teacher went out to drink. My German buddy was trying to say something along the lines of "Man, I really like blonde girls" but then it turned out to be the most racist thing I've heard in years.
Don't just leave us hanging here. What did he say exactly? I struggle to come up with a way to turn this racist. If it could get you banned just give a hint.
 
Why? When looking at languages, I like to look at the reasons why people study a certain language. Take German, it's a widely respected language in the fields of science and economics. The thing is, there is an extremely large number of Germans who already speak English. If I want to interact with Germans, chances are they'll probably turn around and reply in English.

I'm not saying English is a superior language, but I am saying that there is a lot of overlap between (meaning in the people who speak) the two languages. So, as a German / English multilingual, what kind of benefits or perks do you enjoy? It could be something as simple as, "I enjoy reading the Classics in German" or "I like learning more about the culture via the language" or I like how "X phrase" carries a certain meaning that I can't translate into English.

Like I said, I'm not bashing your language, I'm looking for reasons why you study German. When I started learning Japanese, it was because it was vastly different than English and encouraged a new way of thinking. It also opened the door to a people who think and communicate in different ways. It was fun and all, now I'm looking for something else? I'm part German (as well as Scottish and Dutch) so I was thinking about German as a possible language.
Entschuldigung für meine langen Englisch Schreiben.

The only reason I started learning German(I am still learning German) is because I'm part German. For me being an American, unless I plan on going to a different country I see no reason to learn another language. Why? The USA is next to 3 major countries. They are Russia, Mexico and Canada. Most of the USA is next to Canada and Mexico. Canada has many english speakers and Mexico has some english because of tourism. I do not know how many Russians know some english but if DOTA 2 is anything to go by then not much.

So just in case you do not see where I am getting at. Only if I plan to go across the atlantic ocean to the other side of world would I need to learn another language. People living in England I can see learning more than English and I would too. Simply because I am close to many other countries that use different languages. Instead in the US we are next to few countries and because we are a superpower many people learn english(or at least try to learn english) anyways. I have also noticed that many of the more modern countries' population try to learn English anyways. Sort of like how KuroNeeko said " The thing is, there is an extremely large number of Germans who already speak English." If you even go to some of the more modern countries there are a few people that know some english and can help you out a bit. You should know some of their native tongue in my opinion. Though If I went to Germany then I bet Germans would get annoyed at me trying German since I would be extremely slow at thinking my words out and still probably not get it correct.

If I did not have German ancestry then I would probably do like many Americans and not try learning a second language. If I also had no want or need to go out of america then that would give me a bigger reason to not work hard at learning a second language.
 

snap0212

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Haha, please paraphrase.
We were just browsing Facebook and there was a picture of a group of girls. There were a bunch of white chicks and one African American. First he told me in German how he liked the blonde one and then he tried to say the same thing in English. Though instead of saying “The blonde one's nice” he pointed at the black girl and said something along the lines of “I don't like the black one”. We were all pretty confused by that, I started laughing and then he proceeded. “Ugh, the black one – I just don't like the blacks” - he was talking about hair color, not skin color, which he wasn't able to express at all.

I was really uncomfortable. Everyone took it pretty lightly, though, because they knew he just didn't know how to express himself and because I was able to translate what he actually meant.
 

Milchjon

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I actually agree that there's not a huge value to learning German, unless you wanna live here, are a philosophy nerd or have already mastered several other languages and are looking for a new challenge.

It's not even a really fun language to learn.

Spanish, French (because people from French speaking regions seem to be much more averse to speaking/learning English), Chinese, and maybe Russian, Portuguese and Arabic all seem like much more immediate choices.

Edit: Haha, snap, that's pretty unfortunate.
 

Rufus

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You'd cover most of the world's population if your learned those. As far as challenge, Chinese is probably going to be the most time intensive to learn because of the characters alone. Add tones to that and you're in for some hard work. Upkeep is also going to be crazy, considering that with the advent of computers and smart phones, even the Chinese are forgetting how to write some words.

Arabic is neat for it's morphology alone. Roots of three or four consonant form the meaning of a word, the vowels (and affixes) in between code most grammatical information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_verbs

I'd add Finnish or Hungarian if you want a challenge.
 
I actually agree that there's not a huge value to learning German, unless you wanna live here, are a philosophy nerd or have already mastered several other languages and are looking for a new challenge.

It's not even a really fun language to learn.

Spanish, French (because people from French speaking regions seem to be much more averse to speaking/learning English), Chinese, and maybe Russian, Portuguese and Arabic all seem like much more immediate choices.

Edit: Haha, snap, that's pretty unfortunate.

Us, third-worlders, are always looking for new languages to learn so we can immigrate to your developed countries ;)
 

NaM

Does not have twelve inches...
What is the name of said book?
Wie lautet der Name des Buches?

Is that correct? Don't kill me, I used google translate :/
 

raindoc

Member
I love him too. That's what the anonymous internet is for.

Also, are the shops open on saturday? Otherwise I'm doomed to eat at McDonalds all weekend long...

bin mir nicht sicher wie's in deutschland aussieht - ihr seid ja alle ketzer - aber im katholischen österreich hat der einzelhandel schon offen. (auch wenn die erinnerung der letzten jahre aufgrund des ausgiebigen osterbock-konsums getrübt ist)
 

TTTR

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Hackbert, freut mich, dass hier noch andere deutschsprachige Gaffer vertreten sind, die eine humanistische Bildung genießen durften.
Ebenfalls Latein/Altgriechisch. :)
Show-Off: Wieviele Jahre je Fach?
 

m3r4

Dufter Typ taking lurking to the next level
8 lange Jahre, quasi der Latinum HD Remix. Ich hatte die Schule gewechselt mit Latein als erster Fremdsprache und die gabs an der neuen Schule in der Form so nicht, nur als zweite Fremdsprache...
 

vitacola

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ich hatte bislang noch nichts von ihm gehört. aber laut artikel gibt es videoaufnahmen der polizei... aber sonst keine, öffentlich zugängliche? wie ist denn das heutzutage noch möglich?
Ach, der König, der Führer der Jenaer Jungen Gemeinde. Ich mag den Typen und die Junge Gemeinde nicht besonders, aber was die sächsische Staatsmacht sich da erlaubt hat, in Thüringen eine Hausdurchsuchung durchzuführen, finde ich schon dreist.
 
Super Start ins Osterwochenende. War gestern zu Fuß unterwegs im dichten Schneetreiben, dass für etliche Autofahrer Ansporn war noch schneller zu fahren. Dann seh ich vor mir wie jemand mit Hund über die Straße geht und wundere mich noch warum das Auto, dass auf ihn zu kommt nicht langsamer wird und schon knallts und der Typ liegt schreiend am Boden. Die Fahrerin bleibt stehen und ich renne hin um ihn von der Straße zu ziehen - war Gott sei Dank nicht wirklich schwer verletzt und die Alkoholisierung hat den Schmerz ein wenig betäubt. Kaum drehe ich mich um und die Dame im Auto braust davon...

Echt hart die hätte den quasi auf der dunklen Straße liegen lassen in einer 50er Zone. Polizei war natürlich wieder "hilfreich" ohne Ende und wenn sich die Dame nicht freiwillig stellt (vermutlich heute nach dem der Rausch, etc. ausgeschlafen ist) gehen die Chancen wohl gegen 0, dass man sie findet.
 
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