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[JordanN]

Don't come to the UK. We don't need any more right wing nutters that are against multiculturalism. Keep your horrible ideals to yourself. Or find a time machine and take the ideas back where they belong.

Britain is already multicultural.

England, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland are four individual countries sewn together.

Or is this the wrong multiculturalism I'm not allowed to support? In which case, the Brits are more screwed than I think.

 

[Twinguistics]

Britain is already multicultural.

England, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland are four individual countries sewn together.

Or is this the wrong multiculturalism I'm not allowed to support? In which case, the Brits are more screwed than I think.

I thought I read that you were against multiculturalism in Canada? Maybe I got it wrong.

 

[JordanN]

I thought I read that you were against multiculturalism in Canada? Maybe I got it wrong.

Why must Britain become like Canada?
What was wrong with the original country?

 

[Twinguistics]

Why must Britain become like Canada?

What? I don't even know what you mean and to be honest only skim read what you posted before.

I thought you were against immigrants in Canada which is odd given that practically the whole country migrated there at some point. Even your family.

 

[JordanN]

What? I don't even know what you mean and to be honest only skim read what you posted before.

I thought you were against immigrants in Canada which is odd given that practically the whole country migrated there at some point. Even your family.

I'm against the flaws being promoted by the government where the Prime Minister stated Canada is a postnational state, making it impossible for this country to set its own values because there aren't any safeguards in place to protect it.

The end result has lead to a lot of problems, both on a social and political level, and rather than suffer to see the country fail or waltz in a bizarre and unpredictable future, I feel more comfortable returning to a country that historically, has been around for thousands of years and has maintained its own culture distinct from what Canadians have built after being granted our independence in 1982.

I do not believe Britain should be a country that vigorously fights against assimilation or retaining its status as being independent from the rest of the world, whereas Canadian opinion holds this to be the polar opposite.

In regards to family, even they understand that Canadian society is actually very much divided and even exists on splintered cultural lines. But since they actually first moved here back in the 1960s/1970s, they did not actually get to experience a society that was more full of chaos like I have. Quite the opposite. Canada in the 1960s was more like Britain of the 1960s.

 

[hariseldon]

I’ve lived all over the uk (and other countries) - ffs avoid London, Brighton and Bristol. London you’ll either get stabbed or cancelled while Bristol and Brighton are SJW hell. Birmingham is a shithole, Wales is a shithole, Glasgow has some nice areas on the outskirts. Personally I recommend the South West, some lovely countryside, brilliant food, beautiful towns and prices aren’t as insane as the south east.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Bristol and Brighton are SJW hell

Both these places look like run down shit holes as well, Blackpool's for the middle class.

 

[eot]

The likes of Hong Kong, USA, South Africa, Jamaica, India, Australia, Canada, Palestine, Egypt. Almost all of them today have gone backwards or are entering a state of chaos. Especially Hong Kong where all 3 million citizens want to come back to UK.

Even as kid, I knew once these places lost British influence, they quickly went to shit. Now if people are talking about the UK going down this same path, what do you think that motivates me to do?

India had something like 25% of the world trade, and 20% of the global economy before the brits came. It was reduced by a factor of 5-10x by the time they left. The brits fucked India pretty royally

 

[Twinguistics]

I'm against the flaws being promoted by the government where the Prime Minister stated Canada is a postnational state, making it impossible for this country to set its own values because there aren't any safeguards in place to protect it.

The end result has lead to a lot of problems, both on a social and political level, and rather than suffer to see the country fail or waltz in a bizarre and unpredictable future, I feel more comfortable returning to a country that historically, has been around for thousands of years and has maintained its own culture distinct from what Canadians have built after being granted our independence in 1982.

I do not believe Britain should be a country that vigorously fights against assimilation or retaining its status as being independent from the rest of the world, whereas Canadian opinion holds this to be the polar opposite.

In regards to family, even they understand that Canadian society is actually very much divided and even exists on splintered cultural lines. But since they actually first moved here back in the 1960s/1970s, they did not actually get to experience a society that was more full of chaos like I have. Quite the opposite. Canada in the 1960s was more like Britain of the 1960s.

Ok well I won't pretend to know anything about that.

Everywhere is divided but at least the racism is less overt than in the 60s. That's got to be a good thing right? You need to shed the rose tints my friend. The sixties weren't that great I'm sure.

The UK isn't any better than Canada in all the ways you're imagining and I'd happily swap places and move to Canada. The UK has tons of problems such as Brexit (what a mess, thanks pro-leavers, well done), a crumbling healthcare and poor education.

 

[Twinguistics]

Both these places look like run down shit holes as well, Blackpool's for the middle class.

Blackpool is a vile cesspool of aggression.

 

[JordanN]

I’ve lived all over the uk (and other countries) - ffs avoid London, Brighton and Bristol. London you’ll either get stabbed or cancelled while Bristol and Brighton are SJW hell. Birmingham is a shithole, Wales is a shithole, Glasgow has some nice areas on the outskirts. Personally I recommend the South West, some lovely countryside, brilliant food, beautiful towns and prices aren’t as insane as the south east.

When I come to Britain, I hope one day we can look back and ask ourselves where did it all go wrong with those cities.

Don't get me wrong. I completely understand what you mean when places like London, Brighton and Bristol have been lost to the SJW horde. But this is exactly why we should be holding more politicians accountable and reversing the damage.

Because today it's those places, but then what happens tomorrow when all of Britain becomes infested? What happens when there's no where left to run on your own island?

This is why I'm glad to have woken up and seen the situation for what it is. I just can't stand the idea we're suppose to accept that once great cities are completely unlivable. All of Britain should be considered a happy place for British people, and screw the politicians who act like this shouldn't be the case.

Take it from a Canadian where the situation is even more fucked. There's nothing I can do to save what I love, the masses will vote against it every time. You don't want your country to become like mine in the future.

 

[Twinguistics]

When I come to Britain, I hope one day we can look back and ask ourselves where did it all go wrong with those cities.

Don't get me wrong. I completely understand what you mean when places like London, Brighton and Bristol have been lost to the SJW horde. But this is exactly why we should be holding more politicians accountable and reversing the damage.

Because today it's those places, but then what happens tomorrow when all of Britain becomes infested? What happens when there's no where left to run on your own island?

This is why I'm glad to have woken up and seen the situation for what it is. I just can't stand the idea we're suppose to accept that once great cities are completely unlivable. All of Britain should be considered a happy place for British people, and screw the politicians who act like this shouldn't be the case.

Take it from a Canadian where the situation is even more fucked. There's nothing I can do to save what I love, the masses will vote against it every time. You don't want your country to become like mine in the future.

Brighton is the best city in the UK bar none. It has great cafes, you'll get the best latte in Brighton. Fantastic independent shopping too.

Not many aggressive skin head pubs though if that's your thing?

Edit 'infested' by what exactly? People that aren't like you? OH NO.

I need to get out of this thread. The facism is making me cross.

 

[JordanN]

India had something like 25% of the world trade, and 20% of the global economy before the brits came. It was reduced by a factor of 5-10x by the time they left. The brits fucked India pretty royally

Disclaimer: I'm not an imperialist. So don't read this comment as actually wanting Britain to go back.

But I find the reduction in output comment strange. Did Britain personally destroy any factories/railroads before they left? At worst, India itself was actually split into two countries (Pakistan/India) so that should explain the difference.

But Singapore was a former British colony but it's an alright place today. Especially if you want to talk economy...

 

[eot]

Just move to Bavaria OP, they are conservative, have a strong economy and the Germans basically invented modern math and physics.

Summers are warm, the alps are nearby and there are beautiful old cities as well

People in the UK are miserable.

 

[JordanN]

Just move to Bavaria OP, they are conservative, have a strong economy and the Germans basically invented modern math and physics.

Summers are warm, the alps are nearby and there are beautiful old cities as well

People in the UK are miserable.

Germany is cool and I hope they continue to be their own thing. But I'll admit, I'm not actually interested in becoming a German citizen or going to Germany.

As mentioned in the OP, one of my parent is a naturalized British citizen. I'm only one generation removed but my entire life has been living under both cultures but the Canadian side of me absolutely sucks now.

 

[Twinguistics]

Germany is cool and I hope they continue to be their own thing. But I'll admit, I'm not actually interested in becoming a German citizen or going to Germany.

As mentioned in the OP, one of my parent is a naturalized British citizen. I'm only one generation removed but my entire life has been living under both cultures but the Canadian side of me absolutely sucks now.

"The Canadian side of me"

Wow. Be your own man. You're not a country. A country is nothing but a man made division anyway. It's a line on a map. Widen your perspective.

Oh and by the way, saying you're going to go and fix a country makes you sound like a narcicist.

 

[hariseldon]

Brighton is the best city in the UK bar none. It has great cafes, you'll get the best latte in Brighton. Fantastic independent shopping too.

Not many aggressive skin head pubs though if that's your thing?

Edit 'infested' by what exactly? People that aren't like you? OH NO.

I need to get out of this thread. The facism is making me cross.

Brighton is a shithole. I’m from Brighton originally and it was a wonderful place, it knew what it was. It always had a lovely gay scene but it was friendly and generally part of the wider community. You had some issues like Hoogstratten doing his thing but Brighton was a lovely seaside town with plenty to make it unique. I’ve been away for 20 years but went back last year and dear god it’s terrible. It’s lost its identity and become a bit soulless but more importantly it’s become Sodom and Gomorrah. The gay stuff is so in your face. Posters of men in gimp gear fondling each other, that kind of thing. Noped the hell out of there (though I did enjoy an amazing tapas place there).

 

[hariseldon]

Brighton is the best city in the UK bar none. It has great cafes, you'll get the best latte in Brighton. Fantastic independent shopping too.

Not many aggressive skin head pubs though if that's your thing?

Edit 'infested' by what exactly? People that aren't like you? OH NO.

I need to get out of this thread. The facism is making me cross.

People like you see fascism in everything.

 

[JordanN]

"The Canadian side of me"

Wow. Be your own man. You're not a country. A country is nothing but a man made division anyway. It's a line on a map. Widen your perspective.

These things are always easy to say when you're not living under a system that condemns you for not being a liberal.

The lolbertarian "borders aren't real bro" response looks completely silly, since your entire livelihood is being protected by the publicly funded police and military. Get rid of those and watch your country get invaded by every foreign army.

Humans are tribal. We can't get rid of that no matter how much people wish it wasn't true.

 

[JordanN]

People like you see fascism in everything.

His comment about fascism actually reflects the braindead mindset of liberals in my country.

Our Conservatives are as "diverse" as it gets. They come from many different backgrounds, they support women's rights, they support LGBT. Yet the media is still ready to pounce and call them "racist" at every corner.

*Pictured above, the leader of Canada's Conservatives. Is this what a fascist looks like?

This is why I feel like giving up.

How am I racist? I never treated anyone different because of skin color or gender yet the media already has a label ready for me.
It's because I refuse to be a bleeding heart Communist who throws down statues is why we get slandered from now to the end of time.

 

[funkygunther]

it's all good here

 

[nush]

Brighton is the best city in the UK bar none.

City? When did that happen?

So what makes it the best?

It has great cafes, you'll get the best latte in Brighton. Fantastic independent shopping too.

But hows the Avocado toast?

I'm pretty sire most seaside towns in the UK are pretty shite, at least off season. Cheap tickets to Costa Del Fuck took them out the game. However the smart money would be on reinvesting in them for a global warming age where they could be quite good now that that pesky british summer has been taken care of.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Brighton is the best city in the UK bar none. It has great cafes, you'll get the best latte in Brighton. Fantastic independent shopping too.

Not many aggressive skin head pubs though if that's your thing?

Edit 'infested' by what exactly? People that aren't like you? OH NO.

I need to get out of this thread. The facism is making me cross.

It's fitting that you can't even spell 'fascism' because you have no idea what it is.

 

[West Texas CEO]

When I come to Britain, I hope one day we can look back and ask ourselves where did it all go wrong with those cities.

I blame Burberry.

 

[MudoSkills]

I kind of wonder what everyone who is complaining about London for being some kind of liberal hellscape think it's like.

Gay people fucking in every street, before being beheaded by Muslim terrorist immigrants, while the pearly kings and queens shiver, locked inside, crying into their jellied eels.

 

[Foamy]

JordanN
You're a dreamer I'll give you that.

 

[Hudo]

"The Canadian side of me"

Wow. Be your own man. You're not a country. A country is nothing but a man made division anyway. It's a line on a map. Widen your perspective.

Oh and by the way, saying you're going to go and fix a country makes you sound like a narcicist.

This. You should identify yourself by what you do not by the country you were born in/currently inhabit.

I don't mean this as an attack or something, I just bad at being diplomatic (sorry!):
If you really don't have a better reason than "Canada was better in the 90s/Canada is lame", you shouldn't move to another country, IMHO. Moving from one country to another, even a country where they speak a similar language, is a very big thing to do (I say similar because you will very likely still need to learn some (local) vocabulary, figures of speech and how to understand dialects/accents, if you're dealing with the local populace).
There are a lot of small and medium differences you have to adjust to, etc. And the novelty of being in a new country and bing amidst a different culture will wear off. I mean, if you're absolutely hell-bent on moving and dreamt of moving there since your childhood, then by all means, I wish you all the best and hope you are more happy there. I just want to raise awareness that every place in the world has its advantages and disadvantages, there's no "better" place, just "different" and sometimes that "different" might end up being more annoying (for you).

 

[John Mullins]

In Scotland you're much more likely to be embraced as a foreigner, in England you are more likely to be sneered at. They are like France without the class.

 

[JordanN]

This. You should identify yourself by what you do not by the country you were born in/currently inhabit.

I'm going to make a more in depth thread on Neogaf one day, because I can't explain my entire thoughts in just one or two sentences.

But I want you and others to understand something. It's not from a lack of trying or an inability to identify myself why I still find my situation to be miserable.

Assuming you are British, you are lucky to live in a country where you don't have to worry about society tearing itself apart, because every city has become its own cultural enclave, and society as a whole loses trust in one other.

And that's why the whole "just be yourself" shtick begins to disintegrate. Because it only makes you even more isolated around other people who already operate in groups. Once again, how exactly are we suppose to call this a country or a way of life, when the government refuses to enforce any type of identity that all citizens can agree with?

And it begins to look really really strange when you have a country that claims to be about love & kindness & equal rights but if lets say there's a religion that doesn't think women are equal to men and should be treated worse, what do you think the government does? Well, they don't want to "offend" the religion because they're willing to throw away enforcing certain values in order to win votes every election.

This is a recipe for chaos to transform a country into a cultural free for all, and the winner will be the one who gets to claim the most territory based off their own special interests group and how much power they occupy in Canadian society.

Adjusting to a new country isn't that hard. Hell, in some ways you don't even have to adjust at all. How do you think my situation in Canada even exists? It's because the country doesn't believe in assimilation, that people can come here and start their own rules.

Britain I assume, is no where that far gone. Learning stuff like language or figure of speech, is very simple. Now imagine if you had to learn multiple languages instead, or know the right people just to get approved for certain apartment or housing rights? Welcome to Canada. That's hell.

 

[Birdo]

If you want to avoid "multiculturalism" of English cities and race riots, then Scotland is perfect. It's 0.7% black.

 

[JordanN]

If you want to avoid "multiculturalism" of English cities and race riots, then Scotland is perfect. It's 0.7% black.

There's a misconception. I'm not against multiculturalism in the raw sense of the word.

Tokyo, Japan is very diverse. Many foreigners from all over the world come there, and many Nigerians have moved to Japan and become famous.

What I'm concerned about, is every country becoming the same and history being erased to achieve total blandness.

I mentioned before that one thing that makes the UK different is that it has some nice castles. If tomorrow the Prime Minister called for every one of them to be destroyed, would you support that?

If you don't, then you understand my requirement of assimilation isn't actually extreme at all. 100 or 200 years from now, we should expect Britain's Castles or Stonehenge to still be standing. If not, what do we call the UK anymore?

Edit: It's kinda sad I even have to say this but it's just another reason I want to flee this place. My opinions are not extreme and I believe in fairness and tolerance. But if supporting the police and legal law enforcement gets you called "Nazi" then wtf am I expected to do? Just huddle in a cave and die as the rest of society goes crazy?

 

[Charles Brandon]

In Scotland you're much more likely to be embraced as a foreigner, in England you are more likely to be sneered at. They are like France without the class.

I like how this post is one big sneer at the English for being sneering. Who's sneering now, sneerer?

 

[MudoSkills]

I heard that in THAT LONDON they were going to erect a minaret in the Princess Diana memorial fountain.

 

[Birdo]

There's a misconception. I'm not against multiculturalism in the raw sense of the word.

Tokyo, Japan is very diverse. Many foreigners from all over the world come there, and many Nigerians have moved to Japan and become famous.

What I'm concerned about, is every country becoming the same and history being erased to achieve total blandness.

I mentioned before that one thing that makes the UK different is that it has some nice castles. If tomorrow the Prime Minister called for every one of them to be destroyed, would you support that?

If you don't, then you understand my requirement of assimilation isn't actually extreme at all. 100 or 200 years from now, we should expect Britain's Castles or Stonehenge to still be standing. If not, what do we call the UK anymore?

Don't worry, I know what you mean. Sadly, I've seen it first-hand (Thanks to the Labour Open Door Policy).

 

[Hudo]

I'm going to make a more in depth thread on Neogaf one day, because I can't explain my entire thoughts in just one or two sentences.

But I want you and others to understand something. It's not from a lack of trying or an inability to identify myself why I still find my situation to be miserable.

Assuming you are British, you are lucky to live in a country where you don't have to worry about society tearing itself apart, because every city has become its own cultural enclave, and society as a whole loses trust in one other.

And that's why the whole "just be yourself" shtick begins to disintegrate. Because it only makes you even more isolated around other people who already operate in groups. Once again, how exactly are we suppose to call this a country or a way of life, when the government refuses to enforce any type of identity that all citizens can agree with?

And it begins to look really really strange when you have a country that claims to be about love & kindness & equal rights but if lets say there's a religion that doesn't think women are equal to men and should be treated worse, what do you think the government does? Well, they don't want to "offend" the religion because they're willing to throw away enforcing certain values in order to win votes every election.

This is a recipe for chaos to transform a country into a cultural free for all, and the winner will be the one who gets to claim the most territory based off their own special interests group and how much power they occupy in Canadian society.

Adjusting to a new country isn't that hard. Hell, in some ways you don't even have to adjust at all. How do you think my situation in Canada even exists? It's because the country doesn't believe in assimilation, that people can come here and start their own rules.

Britain I assume, is no where that far gone. Learning stuff like language or figure of speech, is very simple. Now imagine if you had to learn multiple languages instead, or know the right people just to get approved for certain apartment or housing rights? Welcome to Canada. That's hell.

Thank you for clearing that up a bit. I still think that adjusting to a new country is no small feat and should never be underestimated but if you really feel like you currently do in Canada, then maybe you'll be happier in the UK (I am not from the UK, I'm from another EU country, visited UK a few times though and had a good time. Amazing landscape in Scotland, btw!). I do admit that I don't have any knowledge of Canada and its internal workings and how society is there, so I am certainly the least qualified to rate living standards there. From the outside, it always seemed like Canada was the most "normal" of the countries in North America. I really hope you'll find your luck in Scotland!

 

[JordanN]

From the outside, it always seemed like Canada was the most "normal" of the countries in North America.

Canadians are really good at hiding their own laundry. Call it an art if you will where we make everything look super clean on the surface.

But our Prime Minister leading a double life of blackface should tell you there are secretly freaks living here.

Or mayors that literally smoke crack.

 

[John Mullins]

I like how this post is one big sneer at the English for being sneering. Who's sneering now, sneerer?

Just delivering the facts mate.

The Irish, Scots and Australians are all cut from the same cloth. Welcoming, engaging and self depreciating.

The English and French are also alike. Guarded, elitist and entitled.

 

[Charles Brandon]

Just delivering the facts mate.

The Irish, Scots and Australians are all cut from the same cloth. Welcoming, engaging and self depreciating.

The English and French are also alike. Guarded, elitist and entitled.

nationalist bollocks

 

[John Mullins]

What's nationalist about that?

 

[Birdo]

Just delivering the facts mate.

The Irish, Scots and Australians are all cut from the same cloth. Welcoming, engaging and self depreciating.

The English and French are also alike. Guarded, elitist and entitled.

I don't know where you are from, but you fall under your own English and French description.

 

[Calverz]

As someone who lives in the highlands of scotland this thread sure is entertaining if nothing else!

 

[Starlight Lotice]

OP, the UK has 4 Leftist Parties (Libs call themselves Central but seem to ve trying to chase the Labour Voters now) as well as 2 Right Wing ones.

The only difference is that UKIP are almost dead and the Lib Dems like to sell their souls to try and get into Government and it screwed them over, big time.

Our Political Parties are all pretty terrible.

The Tories are trying their best in this crisis but even they screw up in a lot of areas.

 

[Charles Brandon]

What's nationalist about that?

The fact you are even asking that question illustrates how blinkered you are.

 

[Chankoras]

There's a misconception. I'm not against multiculturalism in the raw sense of the word.
What I'm concerned about, is every country becoming the same and history being erased to achieve total blandness.

what's culture for you?
what's the raw sense of the word?
I'm probably misunderstanding you, having said that, history will not be erased, history is history, is the past from a different world era, Scottish enlightenment is over things evolve, culture evolve and, for better or worse western world is now global.
have you been in England? have you at least visited there?

 

[Foamy]

You dont have a clue what you're talking about OP. I hope you move overseas. Be sure to make a thread when you're begging to come back to Canada.

 

[JordanN]

what's culture for you?
what's the raw sense of the word?

There's a dictionary definition that I agree with:

"the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group. "

But I would go one step further and say that culture is environmental and cannot be exchanged out for another one.

For direct proof of this: Look at the Native Americans. Even after being colonized and live inside another country, Native Americans still exist as their own distinct identity. They speak a language and hold sacred ceremonies that 99% of Americans are not expected to learn. Without Native Americans, no one would even know why they do this stuff. You don't go to Egypt or Nepal and ask what a Sioux or Mohawk is. I would actually consider that insulting: only the original people who came up with the language and passed it down to their children know their own culture better than others.

culture evolve and, for better or worse western world is now global.

Well I get tired of hearing this.
Cultures don't evolve like it's Pokemon. If they were to change drastically, they were never the same thing.

Just like how the USA today exists as a result of European colonization over Native American land. Trump or Obama were never Aboriginal. They belong to the USA which came later.

Or another example: people love to tell me how modern Japan is a result of U.S influence after WW2. Yet why is Japan still a hell of a lot more safer than the U.S? Why do Japanese people still make their own food, speak their own language, bow to others as an act of respect?

The truth? The culture and its people didn't change. Japanese people did not turn into Americans after they were occupied.

 

[Hypno Funk]

I'm 30 yrs old and from Birmingham, UK originally. I moved to Ontario, Canada in 2016. Canada is an awesome and beautiful country. I met my wife here and will be staying. She's Canadian and when I first took her to the UK she was shocked at how sheltered elements of her Canadian upbringing (a pretty standard one) had been. She couldn't believe how 'cold' people were. Being from the UK I'm used to it, but on the street people are not as expressive as Canadian's and she struggled to 'read' people because we tend to talk slower, more calculated and this perhaps sound more cynical.

From my experience dating in both the UK and Canada, Canadian women are a lot more open about talking about sex and being honest and open in relationships (I also believe they are more attractive - personal opinion). I remember going to nightclubs when I first arrived and couldn't believe how smoke-shows (really attractive women) were dancing with guys who dressed like 16-yr old boys after listening to Blazin' Squad for the the first time. Canadian women are awesome!

I bought an affordable home here in a major city with plenty of space, a back-yard and basement (complete game changer for space management - you don't get many basements in the UK) - I couldn't dream of this quality of life in the UK.

Another huge difference (and I appreciate it is changing somewhat in Canada) is that class divisions in Canada are a lot less apparent or ingrained than the UK - it makes sense being a younger country. The sense of equality in Canada is honestly refreshing.

The UK will always be my home. My family is there and I had a great time living all over there Liverpool and Durham being notable places. The Lake district is my favorite place on Earth - beautiful. However, for me Canada just has more to offer me than the UK - simple as that.

My message to the OP is to go forth and do what you want - you only live once. But don't go to the UK on a mission, just go because you want experience - you'll otherwise be very disappointed. And regardless of whether or not you're not about the 'money' it doesn't matter - once you arrive you have to abide by the UK system which demands a higher cost of living and depending on your finances you'll be priced out of some cities anyway.

 

[Chankoras]

Well I get tired of hearing this.
Cultures don't evolve like it's Pokemon. If they were to change drastically, they were never the same thing.

i think you mistake the word evolution with revolution, I don't understand what Pokemon has to do with anything or why you use that as an argument, and yes culture does evolve whether you like it or not, customs, arts, social institutions, all those things.
you didn't answer what's the raw sense of the word

Just like how the USA today exists as a result of European colonization over Native American land. Trump or Obama were never Aboriginal. They belong to the USA which came later.

And what does this have to do with anything?

Or another example: people love to tell me how modern Japan is a result of U.S influence after WW2. Yet why is Japan still a hell of a lot more safer than the U.S? Why do Japanese people still make their own food, speak their own language, bow to others as an act of respect?

Japan didn't turn into America, but it had a drastic change, constitution crafted post war had a profound cultural and political effect.
And while people make their own food and speak their own language, is undeniable the adoption of western food since early trading days, and the evolution of the language with the adoption of rōmaji

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Yet why is Japan still a hell of a lot more safer than the U.S?

Tiny, less freedom. Isolation, crime mostly goes unreported or isn't punished properly.

Why do Japanese people still make their own food, speak their own language, bow to others as an act of respect?

It is a tiny island away from others with a long history of xenophobia. Japan survived only because of Western intervention, (trade because nothing was growing on said island for the longest time) they only remembered that after getting nuked after attacking other asian countries and the US.

 

[Foamy]

Shsssh dont tell him. Hes going to the UK to build brand new castles and make sure they stay very British.