GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

Great! Now I've got BootMii, HBC, and HBB set up nicely.

I noticed that the second post in the thread mentioned emulators, but it hasn't been updated in a long time. I also found no mention of emulators at the Wiki.

Are there specific emulators that people recommend?

Thanks.
 
Any recommended configs for Black Ops? It hung at the "Loading..." screen for me using 222 AND when I used CFG to bypass the system update to boot the disc itself O_o I got it going with 249, but loading was slower than off the disc and the game stuttered every time I could hear the HD being accessed, which made online so jerky it felt like Goldeneye's multiplayer.

I bit the bullet and took the disc update to 4.3 just to get playing. The bastard thing installed the astrology channel, but I just had to confirm to myself that online was really as smooth as it should be, which is the case when playing from the disc (phew).
 
insin said:
Any recommended configs for Black Ops? It hung at the "Loading..." screen for me using 222 AND when I used CFG to bypass the system update to boot the disc itself O_o I got it going with 249, but loading was slower than off the disc and the game stuttered every time I could hear the HD being accessed, which made online so jerky it felt like Goldeneye's multiplayer.

I bit the bullet and took the disc update to 4.3 just to get playing. The bastard thing installed the astrology channel, but I just had to confirm to myself that online was really as smooth as it should be, which is the case when playing from the disc (phew).

I updated for this reason, couldn't get it to load from USB now I cannot get my usb loader back, will try later though
 
So my Wii Homebrew Channel is telling me it wants to update from 1.0.6 to 1.0.8.
Is there any reason why I might not want to do this? Everything works properly right now so I don't want to break anything...
 
pje122 said:
So my Wii Homebrew Channel is telling me it wants to update from 1.0.6 to 1.0.8.
Is there any reason why I might not want to do this? Everything works properly right now so I don't want to break anything...

It is always a good idea to let Homebrew Channel update. It's one of the things that helps prevent Nintendo from killing it with a FW update.
 
pje122 said:
So my Wii Homebrew Channel is telling me it wants to update from 1.0.6 to 1.0.8.
Is there any reason why I might not want to do this? Everything works properly right now so I don't want to break anything...
Always keep it updated. If you were to accidentally update your Wii right now, you'd have to do a lot of work to get the HBC back. The newest HBC survives the 4.3 update and has newer features and a cosmetic upgrade.

insin said:
Any recommended configs for Black Ops? It hung at the "Loading..." screen for me using 222 AND when I used CFG to bypass the system update to boot the disc itself O_o I got it going with 249, but loading was slower than off the disc and the game stuttered every time I could hear the HD being accessed, which made online so jerky it felt like Goldeneye's multiplayer.

I bit the bullet and took the disc update to 4.3 just to get playing. The bastard thing installed the astrology channel, but I just had to confirm to myself that online was really as smooth as it should be, which is the case when playing from the disc (phew).
Seeing as you updated, don't forget to reinstall IOS222 and IOS249. As for Black Ops, it seems for now that if you use one of the latest versions of Cfg, then you need to load Black Ops with a different IOS to the default IOS. It also perhaps needs base 57 for the second IOS.

v60 and earlier and v61t1 of Cfg seem to be immune to this problem and we're trying to figure out why to make sure it's not an issue for future versions. Wiiflow has to use a different IOS in order to get it to work.

Thus, while we're figuring it out, try installing IOS250 base 57 (just follow the IOS249 steps but do IOS250 base 57 instead of IOS249 base 56) and set Black Ops to launch from IOS250 (go to game options with 1, set the option, then push 2 to save).
 
insin said:
Any recommended configs for Black Ops? It hung at the "Loading..." screen for me using 222 AND when I used CFG to bypass the system update to boot the disc itself O_o I got it going with 249, but loading was slower than off the disc and the game stuttered every time I could hear the HD being accessed, which made online so jerky it felt like Goldeneye's multiplayer.

I bit the bullet and took the disc update to 4.3 just to get playing. The bastard thing installed the astrology channel, but I just had to confirm to myself that online was really as smooth as it should be, which is the case when playing from the disc (phew).
It's funny that you mention online. I haven't been able to connect to any multiplayer games. Zombies always gives me a weird error, and regular multi just doesn't connect at all. Could Treyarch really have implemented some sort of block for modded Wiis? Oh and this is from playing from the disc. I couldn't get it to work from the harddisk =/
 
Is it worth changing over from WBFS to FAT or NTFS if you already have a big collection? I have all my 76 games on there, would it be worth wiping it to NTFS and installing each game from cd again? I haven't had any issues with WBFS right now. The only major downside I can see with this would be the time consuming aspect of it.
 
Veal said:
It's funny that you mention online. I haven't been able to connect to any multiplayer games. Zombies always gives me a weird error, and regular multi just doesn't connect at all. Could Treyarch really have implemented some sort of block for modded Wiis? Oh and this is from playing from the disc. I couldn't get it to work from the harddisk =/
Read my post directly above yours. The fixes I mentioned are specifically for people with online problems.

Having said that, I don't really recommend playing online via USB Loading. It's risky as there are ways to detect that you are using a loader, but no developer has done so yet.
 
Clipper said:
Read my post directly above yours. The fixes I mentioned are specifically for people with online problems.

Having said that, I don't really recommend playing online via USB Loading. It's risky as there are ways to detect that you are using a loader, but no developer has done so yet.
Thanks for all of your help man! There's also another problem. I did the update of of the disc (even though I've been on 4.3 for a while now) and the system is still prompting me to update. Any clues as to why that might be?
 
It installed the bullshitstrology channel on the second update for me. It prompted me to do a regular system update first time I tried to use the Shop Channel as well.

Thanks for the suggestions, Clipper. Will have a go later.
 
It didn't install any new channels, nor did it make me update the Wii Shop channel. I got the game working in cfg, but I still can't play online. Disc or otherwise.

And if that's the case, I'm gonna have to take this back. I guess it's well within their right to restrict modifications, but I feel like I'm being punished. Especially after reading about people with nodded consoles being able to get online just fine.
 
whitehawk said:
So holy shit, I finally ended up hacking my wii. Why didn't I do this sooner? So far I've just gotten emulators, but they are AWESOME. SNES and Genesis run perfectly. And many N64 games run smooth as butter (diddy kong racing, super mario 64).

Now I just need to install the stuff that will let me rip games to a hard drive.

fake edit: Is there a way to get say a SNES emulator to show up on the official Nintendo OS? Or do you have to launch the homebrew channel.

Welcome to the club.

And yes you can, but it's really overrated. It's cool at first too look at, and convenient, but could eventually cause problems. So, you're better off booting up emulators through HBC honestly.
 
Veal said:
It didn't install any new channels, nor did it make me update the Wii Shop channel. I got the game working in cfg, but I still can't play online. Disc or otherwise.

And if that's the case, I'm gonna have to take this back. I guess it's well within their right to restrict modifications, but I feel like I'm being punished. Especially after reading about people with nodded consoles being able to get online just fine.
Did you try setting it up so that the game uses a different IOS to the IOS that Cfg launched with? It's possible that the first IOS has to be base 57 too, but I doubt it. The initial reports suggested switching from IOS224 base 57 (this needs to be version 5.1 of IOS224, which works with Cfg now) to IOS250 base 57.

Veal said:
Thanks for all of your help man! There's also another problem. I did the update of of the disc (even though I've been on 4.3 for a while now) and the system is still prompting me to update. Any clues as to why that might be?
The update checks all IOSes on the system to see if it can update anything. IOS222 and IOS249 will always look like prime candidates for replacement. Thus, it will always prompt to update unless you use StartPatch to avoid disc updates.
 
Clipper said:
Did you try setting it up so that the game uses a different IOS to the IOS that Cfg launched with? It's possible that the first IOS has to be base 57 too, but I doubt it. The initial reports suggested switching from IOS224 base 57 (this needs to be version 5.1 of IOS224, which works with Cfg now) to IOS250 base 57.


The update checks all IOSes on the system to see if it can update anything. IOS222 and IOS249 will always look like prime candidates for replacement. Thus, it will always prompt to update unless you use StartPatch to avoid disc updates.
Yeah I tried setting it up so that it ran with IOS250 base 57. That was the only way I could get it to run at all from the harddrive. Trying to play online from that one sends me to a black screen. My main problem is trying to play online from the legit disc. It just won't connect in the multiplayer mode. In zombies, I can hear people talking in the lobby and when the match gets ready to start, I lose connection. Everytime. Not to mention all of the strange graphical glitches I get. It's like the game isn't even finished!
 
ok, so i'm a wii hacking noob and the various how-to's out there seem to contradict. gaf's wiki makes it sound like i can hack my 3.4 wii via this http://gwht.wikidot.com/launch. but then i read other guides and they say update to 4.2 and follow something similar. and then others are saying not to update to 4.2.

so..i've got a nonhacked 3.4, do i just follow this? http://gwht.wikidot.com/launch. is there something i'll be missing if i don't update from 3.4 to 4.2? and if i do need/want 4.2, how do i get it? ugh..i hate being a noob lol

edit: i guess this dummy should have kept reading. there's a tutorial just for me! lol http://gwht.wikidot.com/for-dummies
 
Wait, so im installing ios236. Now I'm at the "piracy, or no piracy" part of the installation. I just want to be able to install a game, and not use the disc so i don't have to keep changing discs. So I should select "no piracy" right?
 
whitehawk said:
Wait, so im installing ios236. Now I'm at the "piracy, or no piracy" part of the installation. I just want to be able to install a game, and not use the disc so i don't have to keep changing discs. So I should select "no piracy" right?
Correct. Unless you want minor annoyances.
 
Alrighty.

Damn, hermes IOS failed, gotta instal ios236 again I guess.

edit: okay I re-installed it, but it's still not working. While isntalling Hermes, I get to the point "Select IOS38 merged with IOS37 and push A", and then it crashes and I get a screen saying "Exception! (DSI) occured" with a bunch of code.

help?
 
Clipper said:
The newest HBC survives the 4.3 update and has newer features and a cosmetic upgrade.
I have 4.3 and the newest HBC, but now the Wii Shop has yet another update and i can't access it. is this update the September 2010 one mentioned in the FAQ?

Can i just update the shop with DOP-Mii?

OR

Can i use the official Nintendo update from the internet or should i avoid it? thanks!

edit. ok, updated with DOP ;)
 
whitehawk said:
Alrighty.

Damn, hermes IOS failed, gotta instal ios236 again I guess.

edit: okay I re-installed it, but it's still not working. While isntalling Hermes, I get to the point "Select IOS38 merged with IOS37 and push A", and then it crashes and I get a screen saying "Exception! (DSI) occured" with a bunch of code.

help?
Alright, I have no idea what I've done wrong. I've installed ios 236, and Ios 249 correctly. I've followed all the instructions. Hermes just doesn't like my Wii. I've also re-installed ios236, and I'm getting the same problem. gah
 
whitehawk said:
Alright, I have no idea what I've done wrong. I've installed ios 236, and Ios 249 correctly. I've followed all the instructions. Hermes just doesn't like my Wii. I've also re-installed ios236, and I'm getting the same problem. gah
Okay, with the hermes installation, should I be selecting ios249 instead of ios236?

edit: or is it that I should be selecting the first option rather than the merged option:

IOS38 only
IOS38 merged with features of IOS37
 
whitehawk said:
Alright, I have no idea what I've done wrong. I've installed ios 236, and Ios 249 correctly. I've followed all the instructions. Hermes just doesn't like my Wii. I've also re-installed ios236, and I'm getting the same problem. gah
If you use IOS249, you first have to use AnyTitle Deleter to delete the existing IOS222 and IOS223. Perhaps try using v5.1 of Hermes, which may work a little better. It's about time that I updated the tutorial to use that one as there aren't issues with Cfg any more.

Ecrofirt said:
Another quick question:

I've noticed with my Wii that it takes a ridiculously long time to extract files. For Instance, I used the HBB to download a Genesis, SNES, and NES emulator, and with each one the extraction took around 10 minutes.

Right now I'm doing everything off of a brand new 4GB RiData Class 6 SDHC card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183246).

Is this normal?
Yes. The HBB has rather unoptimised code for extracting, I think.
 
Thank Clipper.

Another question, this time regarding updates:
There's a section in the Wiki specifically for Avoiding Disk Updates (http://gwht.wikidot.com/avoid-disc-updates)

There's also the Region Free section (http://gwht.wikidot.com/region-free)

Which says "Configurable USB Loader and other USB Loaders support region free gaming and automatically block updates."

Now, the question here is this:
I briefly checked the Configurable USB Loader thread at GBATemp and saw that it linked back to the Wiki. However, I didn't see any mention of it blocking disc updates. Does it actually avoid updates?

Should I still use StartPatch?

Thanks for the clarification and all the work you've done to help others.
 
Looks like I'm going to need StartPatch.

Reinstalled all my IOSes, found that Black Ops went to a black screen under IOS 250 when I selected Multiplayer, then when I went back out to boot the disc normally, it was back to the "System Update" icon. Took that update so I could play and have just finished playing for the night (crashed on Nuke Town, which gives my launch Wii's disc drive panic attacks) only to open CFG and find that IOS 222 has been stubbed.
 
Clipper said:
If you use IOS249, you first have to use AnyTitle Deleter to delete the existing IOS222 and IOS223. Perhaps try using v5.1 of Hermes, which may work a little better. It's about time that I updated the tutorial to use that one as there aren't issues with Cfg any more.


Yes. The HBB has rather unoptimised code for extracting, I think.
Okay, v5.1 is saying I can only install to IOS38.

It also says this:

"Note: You can only install cIOS 222 with IOS 38 because other IOS supported in this installer don't works installing channels (ES error -1029. Its works fine installing installing IOS or for NAND access"

What should I do, just select IOS38?
 
whitehawk said:
Okay, v5.1 is saying I can only install to IOS38.

It also says this:

"Note: You can only install cIOS 222 with IOS 38 because other IOS supported in this installer don't works installing channels (ES error -1029. Its works fine installing installing IOS or for NAND access"

What should I do, just select IOS38?
222 must be installed as 38. 223 and 224 give you a choice. Install one of 223 or 224 with base 57,
 
That didn't work either, same error. Crashed and gave me a code log.

But, do I even need to install that? I just tried running USBLoader and installing Wii Sports. It's currently running right now, without the disc.
 
whitehawk said:
That didn't work either, same error. Crashed and gave me a code log.

But, do I even need to install that? I just tried running USBLoader and installing Wii Sports. It's currently running right now, without the disc.
Some games (Monster Hunter 3, for instance) freeze with IOS249 and are just fine with 222/223.
 
Alright. So for now I can just use USB loader since it's working. And if I ever get a game that won't run properly off of a usb drive, then I can install the 222/223.

K I think I get it :lol
 
theultimo said:
Some games (Monster Hunter 3, for instance) freeze with IOS249 and are just fine with 222/223.
This is old information. The newer iterations of 249 work fine with Monster Hunter and other games that were troublesome in the past as long as you choose the right base (such as 56 as suggested in the tutorial).

So yes, whitehawk, you don't need it.
 
insin said:
Looks like I'm going to need StartPatch.

Reinstalled all my IOSes, found that Black Ops went to a black screen under IOS 250 when I selected Multiplayer, then when I went back out to boot the disc normally, it was back to the "System Update" icon. Took that update so I could play and have just finished playing for the night (crashed on Nuke Town, which gives my launch Wii's disc drive panic attacks) only to open CFG and find that IOS 222 has been stubbed.
If you don't mind, could you go into a little more detail about how you have things set up on your Wii? I can't get online to work no matter what I do!
 
FAT32 only supports files up to 4gb right? So if I want to rip Super Smash Brothers (about 6gb), I'll have to format it to NTFS. Do I have this correct?
 
whitehawk said:
FAT32 only supports files up to 4gb right? So if I want to rip Super Smash Brothers (about 6gb), I'll have to format it to NTFS. Do I have this correct?

I have Brawl on my FAT32 and it runs fine.

Somebody else will have to explain the specifics.
 
Hmm. Well there are 5gb of mystery files on my 60gb harddrive that aren't visible. So I went to format and NTFS is the only option. Generally, which is the optimum format?
 
I'm back to where I was before with Black Ops. I upgraded to the latest beta at some point, which seems to have been the cause of my multiplayer black screens with it, as I downgraded to the .60 release (and took the regular version instead of my usual 222 version - I was on .57-222 release before I started tinkering for Black Ops) and multiplayer now works with IOS 250 as per Clipper's advice, albeit with the same issue I had before - it seems like every HD access causes the game to skip a few frames, so as I run around or turn on the spot. it can drops frames.

It's not game breaking, but if someone runs in front of me in the middle distance just as the skip happens, they will appear to teleport, and it has caused me a few deaths in close quarters, but the 2 TDMs I played when I found that it worked again finished with 8.* and 4.* KDRs for me, so it's obviously managable. So it's not as smooth as playing off the disc (which seems flawless in that respect) BUT I'm not getting the 15-20 second respawn times or disappearing weapon models I was getting when playing off the retail disc, so it's swings and roundabouts.
 
whitehawk said:
Hmm. Well there are 5gb of mystery files on my 60gb harddrive that aren't visible. So I went to format and NTFS is the only option. Generally, which is the optimum format?

I suppose it depends on how you're going to use it. I prefer FAT to NTFS for my drive because it's a bit more compatible that way. I can toss data onto my FAT drive and my PS3 will be able to read it, for example.

Anyway, the FAT file size limitations won't get in your way at all when you're ripping games. It will start to rip to a file named 'whatever.wbfs', and then create another named 'whatever.wbf1' or something along those lines. I've never had any trouble playing the games that ripped themselves this way, personally.

edit: if you want to reformat into FAT again, I remember needing to use a tool to do it. I think I found it in this thread, I'll see if I can remember what it was.

edit2: Here we go. FAT32Format is the program recommended on the gaf homebrew wiki: http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/guiformat.exe
(from http://gwht.wikidot.com/wbfs-to-fat-transfer)
 
Well it's a 60gb hard drive that I had laying around. I think I'll just be using it for my Wii and keep it plugged in at all times. So I just formatted it to NTFS since that was tahe only option it gave me. I have another hard drive for media that I can plug into my PS3/360.
 
whitehawk said:
Well it's a 60gb hard drive that I had laying around. I think I'll just be using it for my Wii and keep it plugged in at all times. So I just formatted it to NTFS since that was tahe only option it gave me. I have another hard drive for media that I can plug into my PS3/360.

Actually right now.. I'm remembering that there was some trouble ripping games from disk to NTFS partitions. I'm not sure if that was ever fixed, but that might prove to be an issue.

edit: looks like it shouldn't be an issue now? I suppose I'm not the best person to answer the question, but I am the first!
 
Since base 57 seems to be the secret sauce for Black Ops and IOS 250 is giving me jerky multiplayer, I tried using Hermes' uLoader installer v5 to install IOS 224 with 57 as base. I've only tried a quick private match (where the jerky loading issue also manifested itself with IOS 250) but it was as smooth as off the retail disc when I was running around.

Feels like I've only really just got the game properly now :)

Edit: works perfectly! KDR rising... rising...
 
Incidentally, to get NTFS drives to rip to the drive, you need to add ntfs_write=1 to config.txt. FAT32 is indeed easier to use, though. For further comparisons of the two, check for a recent post of mine in this thread with bullet points.
 
What is the best way of switching from the 222-version to the 249-version?

Manually delete the 222-version and install the 249-version on the SD card?
Or is there a simple change that can be made in the config file instead of reinstalling?
Or is there an online update from within cfg-loader that can switch to the 249-version?
 
Dalthien said:
What is the best way of switching from the 222-version to the 249-version?

Manually delete the 222-version and install the 249-version on the SD card?
Or is there a simple change that can be made in the config file instead of reinstalling?
Or is there an online update from within cfg-loader that can switch to the 249-version?
There's an online update. Instructions about performing any of these are listed in the tutorial.

Note that if this is for Black Ops, you MUST be using v60 or v61t1 of Cfg. Other versions appear to be broken.
 
Clipper said:
There's an online update. Instructions about performing any of these are listed in the tutorial.

Note that if this is for Black Ops, you MUST be using v60 or v61t1 of Cfg. Other versions appear to be broken.
Thanks Clipper!

I knew I remembered seeing it in there before. But I was looking for it in the 'Configurable Options' page of the tutorial, and couldn't find it.

Thanks again!
 
Sounds like Black Ops is a tricky bugger to get working.
 
So it seems like Dios Mios has released.

That means playing GCN games on Wii's USB drive, but it also means migrating to SNEEK, which isn't exactly easy. I'm really busy right now so I don't have time to do a tutorial, unfortunately.
 
Clipper said:
So it seems like Dios Mios has released.

That means playing GCN games on Wii's USB drive, but it also means migrating to SNEEK, which isn't exactly easy. I'm really busy right now so I don't have time to do a tutorial, unfortunately.

sheeeet

Right, time to give this a go.
 
Clipper said:
So it seems like Dios Mios has released.

That means playing GCN games on Wii's USB drive, but it also means migrating to SNEEK, which isn't exactly easy. I'm really busy right now so I don't have time to do a tutorial, unfortunately.

daaaaaamn :D
 
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