GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

Worthintendo said:
I'm just checking to see if anyone can confirm, do we know if the WiiU transfer is going to mess with the HBC at all, have anyone tested it out yet?
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I'll be interested in knowing the answer to this question as well. All I know so far is that shop access is required to download the transfer tool, so I'll probably need to dig up that homebrew app that circumvents the required firmware update I'd otherwise be subjected to since I haven't used my Wii in over a year.
 
So far (pre Wii U release) there has not been any need to circumvent firmware updates at all as long as HBC is up-to-date and the tutorial is followed regarding cIOS slot usage. Someone needs to check whether anything changed in that regard.
 
I have no idea where I've left my Wii at in terms of homebrewness.
I assume I'll have several updates to run through if I want to hit up the shop and grab the transfarring utility.

I guess it can wait. I just used my 3DS Miis, and all I'd really care about from the Wii would be saved games and VC stuff. Do we know if transferred VC licenses get added to the Nintendo Network account on the Wii U?
 
It's currently looking to me like the transfer utility works fine on hacked Wiis. I'm not certain yet, and I won't be able to test for myself until the Aussie launch (November 30). What I've seen reports of people transferring without issue, but I just don't know yet whether to fully trust them.
 
In the same boat. I heard some people saying the transfer went fine, but I want specifics on what transferred (like, did HBC move over) successfully. I also don't like how data will be wiped from my Wii once transferred. I'm not sure, but is there a way to backup everything on my Wii (like BootMii) so once I do the transfer I can restore everything onto my Wii. That way I have my data on both systems?
 
I figured some Gaffer would have tried it by now. I have several questions:

Does the presence of HBC cause any issues?

Will HBC copy over (unlikely)?

Is HBC functionality affected by the transfer process on the source Wii (i.e. does the transfer break it)?

Should I use a "clean" SD card for the transfer or is it safe to use the one with all my Wiiware (and homebrew)?

EDIT - l see some brave gaffers have tried this in the transfer process thread. It doesn't sound terrible.
 
From the Wii to WiiU transfer thread:

Sixfortyfive said:
I just completed a system transfer from a homebrew-enabled Wii. I'll provide what details I can. Relatively speaking, this was a lightly-used Wii with lightly-used homebrew. I didn't have much to lose if the process happened to fuck up my soft-modded system, so I figured I might as well be the guinea pig for GAF.

My Wii system details:

- Wii system menu 4.3 (latest version)
- Wii Shop version 21 (latest version, released about a week or two ago, required for system transfer)
- Homebrew Channel (latest version, updated it last night in preparation)
- BootMii version 1.3 (installed to boot2)
- Riivolution patching app (only homebrew app I still have; I basically just used it for custom TvC soundtracks)

Transfer process details:

- Everything that can be transferred will be transferred. You can't pick and choose, and you can't move or copy games back to the original Wii system after you complete the process because the content licenses will be moved to your new Wii U console. Save files that aren't locked to the system can still be moved around freely and copied back to your old system.

- The transfer process seems to ignore homebrew applications entirely. Not only was the Homebrew Channel not transferred (as should be expected), it remains intact on my original system. BootMii still seems to function as normal. I can still launch the one homebrew app I have and it appears to work fine.

- System-locked save files (such as Super Smash Bros Brawl) WILL be transferred, and it will now be locked to your new Wii U. If Gamecube controller ports are important to you, this may be a point worth considering. If you are capable of stripping out the system-lock on the original save via homebrew, I recommend trying that and then saving a backup copy of the save file on an SD card, then copying it back to your original Wii after the transfer process completes. Not sure if it would work, or if the transfer process would ignore tampered save files entirely, but it's worth a shot if that's important to you.

- Save files from imported Wii games WILL be transferred. My save file for the JP version of Sin & Punishment 2 made the jump.
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Oh, goodness. I'm trying to do a safe update to the shop channel so that I can give Nintendo some of my hard-earned money to download a likely pretty terrible game, but…

I don't have a Windows computer, so I cannot get the "boot2v4" file needed for a full, safe upgrade.

When trying the Wii Shop Update, which would bypass a full system update, the link to "dop_shop" is on megaupload, which no longer exists. Is there another source for this tool? I'm hunting around for it on my own, of course, but help would be appreciated.

Are there any other routes I can take? I will of course try to get at a Windows machine to get a copy of boot2v4, but if there is any way to bypass this, I'd appreciate hearing about it. :)


edit: Hmmm, the upgrade faq seems to suggest that doing a recent official update will be pretty safe and (probably?) won't wipe out HBC. I have BootMii installed, so maybe it's fine to just go straight ahead with that?

edit: Seems like that worked, though I'll have to reinstall some Custom IOSes to get the USB loader working.
 
Mike D said:
I'm not sure, but is there a way to backup everything on my Wii (like BootMii) so once I do the transfer I can restore everything onto my Wii. That way I have my data on both systems?
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That's exactly what BootMii does, and I have heard of it working just fine. This would also restore your saves to solve the SSBB problem mentioned in that post. Note that if you do restore in this manner and start using your games on both systems, then it is a sort of piracy, so I certainly don't advocate it.
 
GameplayWhore said:
Oh, goodness. I'm trying to do a safe update to the shop channel so that I can give Nintendo some of my hard-earned money to download a likely pretty terrible game, but…

I don't have a Windows computer, so I cannot get the "boot2v4" file needed for a full, safe upgrade.

When trying the Wii Shop Update, which would bypass a full system update, the link to "dop_shop" is on megaupload, which no longer exists. Is there another source for this tool? I'm hunting around for it on my own, of course, but help would be appreciated.

Are there any other routes I can take? I will of course try to get at a Windows machine to get a copy of boot2v4, but if there is any way to bypass this, I'd appreciate hearing about it. :)


edit: Hmmm, the upgrade faq seems to suggest that doing a recent official update will be pretty safe and (probably?) won't wipe out HBC. I have BootMii installed, so maybe it's fine to just go straight ahead with that?

edit: Seems like that worked, though I'll have to reinstall some Custom IOSes to get the USB loader working.
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Too late now, but the way I did it was use NUS Downloader to download IOS62 + new Shop Channel from Nintendo's server and package them into wads, then install the wads manually on the Wii. What you did was fine, though.
 
Why would you do that? said:
Too late now, but the way I did it was use NUS Downloader to download IOS62 + new Shop Channel from Nintendo's server and package them into wads, then install the wads manually on the Wii. What you did was fine, though.
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You may have missed that my main problem in my post was that I do not have a computer that can run NUS. But things are fairly peachy now.

Interestingly, the update fixed a weird problem I was having where the Disc Channel was utterly failing to work, and I had to use Riivolution to launch games from the original media.
 
I couldn't get my Wii to connect to the servers to do a full on normal system update, so I just used Dop-Mii to update my wii shop channel.

System transfer went smoothly and easily. For some reason the only game I had that didn't transfer over was Lost Winds (the first one), Kotaku had the same issue as well. It also wasn't listed as a redownloadable title. Which was weird, hopefully at some point Nintendo or some one will say why that is.
 
Ok, I have a rather difficult question but I hope I can get some help.

I'm currently on my second Wii, as the first one got stolen a couple of years ago and of course I wasn't able to persuade NOE's support to let me redownload all my stuff in the new console. However, I luckily have a bootmi's NAND backup in my PC, not the most recent and some of the latest games I bought from the Wii Shop wouldn't be there but it could do the trick and it's better than nothing.

I actually though about restoring the backup into the new console (a black Wii with BC) but I never did out of pure fear because the first console was a launch unit with unlocked boot2 (which allowed for bootmi installing) while the second one didn't and only allowed to install it as a channel. Would I run into any problem if I restore the old backup in the new console? My plan is doing a system transfer to WiiU, restore backup, and transfer the old stuff too. But I obviously don't have a clue if it would work.
 
I believe you can't use a Wii backup from one Wii on a different Wii except via NAND emulation. Thus, I doubt there's a way for you to transfer the stuff from the old Wii. But you would be able to play the games you had already downloaded again.

Unfortunately, the NAND emulation process is too complicated for me to do a tutorial to guide people through the process. I just don't have the time.
 
So in my quest to transfer my Wii shit to my Wii U, I've come across error 32017 when trying to run the system update (to get the shop updated so I can get the transfer tool).

I've already made me a NAND backup with BootMii (boot2), but the system update always errors out with 32017.

I've got whoknowswhat firmware version (4.2?) and HBC version (?) and a hodgepodge of cIOSes and whatnot.

What should I do?
 
Mudkips said:
So in my quest to transfer my Wii shit to my Wii U, I've come across error 32017 when trying to run the system update (to get the shop updated so I can get the transfer tool).

I've already made me a NAND backup with BootMii (boot2), but the system update always errors out with 32017.

I've got whoknowswhat firmware version (4.2?) and HBC version (?) and a hodgepodge of cIOSes and whatnot.

What should I do?
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Do you have PriiLoader installed? Boot up the system using the Reset button to find out. There is an option in PriiLoader that will block all System Updates, no matter what.
 
RecoveryDisc said:
Do you have PriiLoader installed? Boot up the system using the Reset button to find out. There is an option in PriiLoader that will block all System Updates, no matter what.
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No, I just have BootMii.

Don't I need to get the system update to get the latest version of the shop so I can grab the transfer tool? The wiki says that the listed methods for manual shop update don't work for the current shop version (and just mentions slapping on IOS62 and the latest shop version to do it manually for now). The wiki recommends using the official update after updating HBC.

I didn't update HBC prior to trying the update (since I was just going to do a NAND restore). Would an out of date HBC cause the 32017 error?
 
Clipper said:
That's exactly what BootMii does, and I have heard of it working just fine. This would also restore your saves to solve the SSBB problem mentioned in that post. Note that if you do restore in this manner and start using your games on both systems, then it is a sort of piracy, so I certainly don't advocate it.
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Eh, all I really care about is my save data being on both systems. Thanks for the reply.
 
You update the HBC so it isn't deleted by the update. It wouldn't cause the error. Have you perhaps used StartPatch to block updates at some point in the past?
 
Clipper said:
You update the HBC so it isn't deleted by the update. It wouldn't cause the error. Have you perhaps used StartPatch to block updates at some point in the past?
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Thanks.

Doubt I've ever had StartPatch. I haven't really used shit beyond various incarnations of USB Loader CFG.
When I get home I'll poke at it some more but I currently have no idea wtf to do. I guess I'll try Dop-Mii. But doesn't the wiki say those methods don't work?

What information would be helpful?
 
The methods as specified directly in the tutorial don't work, but there are methods. There's a few posts from others above that clearly show you can get a manual update of the Shop going.
 
Clipper said:
The methods as specified directly in the tutorial don't work, but there are methods. There's a few posts from others above that clearly show you can get a manual update of the Shop going.
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I'll update HBC (rather than relying on the NAND restore, which is kind of slow) and try NUS Downloader then, I guess.

I assume there's no functional stuff in the latest (4.3?) firmware that would make it impossible for me to play some games (what games lol). Just the Youtube channel, right? I still haven't tackled Last Story or Xenoblade, and I'll probably use Dolphin for those anyway, but I just want to make sure that my Wii isn't borked to a point that I'll be unable to play certain games that rely on whatever versions of whatever iOSes.

I can just see myself 20 years from now unboxing the thing and running into a maze of WTF DID I DO? and being unable to sort it out.
 
Before you try that, I'd try Dop-Mii's updating method (with a NAND backup just in case). It might stil work and fix whatever is stopping the official update from working.
 
Clipper said:
Before you try that, I'd try Dop-Mii's updating method (with a NAND backup just in case). It might stil work and fix whatever is stopping the official update from working.
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I did the Dop-Mii method for getting the shop up to date. I used v5662 for IOS56 (instead of v5661 as the guide states) since it was the latest and the default.

Then I was able to get to the shop and get the transfer utility.

After transfer, I restored my NAND backup and everything seemed to work. Didn't bother updating IOSes to get the shop on the old Wii again.

Thanks for the help.
 
My friend has a Wii on 4.1C with the Homebrew Channel working. I was wondering if there is a way to update this system without using an SD card. I don't own one. I have a MINI SD card but I don't have an SD to MiniSD Converter, except for USB ones.

So do I need to find an SD card or is it possible?


Another thing is, he bought a Chinese Wii(I live in China). I'm wondering if it's possible to change the system language from Chinese to English. Either through the Wii system itse;f or through some homebrew means.

Thanks to anyone that can help.
 
I haven't used my homebrew'd wii in like a year and I have no idea what exact shit is even installed on it, but I wanna clear it back as close to factory state as possible so I can sell it now that I got a Wii U. Any clear instructions out there?
 
BladeoftheImmortal said:
My friend has a Wii on 4.1C with the Homebrew Channel working. I was wondering if there is a way to update this system without using an SD card. I don't own one. I have a MINI SD card but I don't have an SD to MiniSD Converter, except for USB ones.

So do I need to find an SD card or is it possible?


Another thing is, he bought a Chinese Wii(I live in China). I'm wondering if it's possible to change the system language from Chinese to English. Either through the Wii system itse;f or through some homebrew means.

Thanks to anyone that can help.
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If the language option for Chinese Wiis doesn't have an English selection, your only choice is to region change the Wii, which is a tad dangerous.

As for updating, just update normally via the official update method provided by Nintendo. No SD card needed and it's harmless.

onlyindreams said:
I haven't used my homebrew'd wii in like a year and I have no idea what exact shit is even installed on it, but I wanna clear it back as close to factory state as possible so I can sell it now that I got a Wii U. Any clear instructions out there?
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You won't be able to get it into a factory state without doing a lot of work. Your better bet is to just be honest and sell it as hacked as removing every trace of the hacking is virtually impossible.
 
Clipper said:
If the language option for Chinese Wiis doesn't have an English selection, your only choice is to region change the Wii, which is a tad dangerous.

As for updating, just update normally via the official update method provided by Nintendo. No SD card needed and it's harmless.
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So the update 4.3 won't destroy the Homebrew Channel?


And I want to change the region. I just backed up his Wii with the .nand from bootmii. So I'm ok with that and he wants me to do it for him anyways.
 
Some questions, good sirs.

1. Could anyone detail the process of how to uninstall dios-mios? Actually, I think you can boot gamecube from disc channel with the latest version (just worked for me!). But I just want to know how to remove it anyway.

2. Im on system firmware 4.2. but I kind of want that official YouTube app. Is it still smart to stay on lower firmwares or can I just go ahead and upgrade? Edit: seems like you were just talking about it
 
BladeoftheImmortal said:
So the update 4.3 won't destroy the Homebrew Channel?


And I want to change the region. I just backed up his Wii with the .nand from bootmii. So I'm ok with that and he wants me to do it for him anyways.
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I'm not able to provide instructions, but they are out there. Be very careful, though.

BocoDragon said:
Some questions, good sirs.

1. Could anyone detail the process of how to uninstall dios-mios? Actually, I think you can boot gamecube from disc channel with the latest version (just worked for me!). But I just want to know how to remove it anyway.
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Use Dop-Mii to reinstall Nintendo's MIOS.

2. Im on system firmware 4.2. but I kind of want that official YouTube app. Is it still smart to stay on lower firmwares or can I just go ahead and upgrade? Edit: seems like you were just talking about it
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Upgrade away.
 
It's funny but ever since I deleted the Homebrew channel my Wii has gone from starting once in a blue moon to starting regularly on the first try.
 
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but now that the Wii U is out I'm thinking about transferring my stuff over and using my Wii as a homebrew test bed. If I do so, are there tools to change the region? I'd love to finally be able to play things like Disaster: Day of Crisis, Another Code R, Rhythm Heaven in Japanese, Pandora's Tower, Zangeki no Reginleiv (anything else I'm missing?). Is this possible? Again, pardon my ignorance, I've only dipped my toes very tentatively in these waters once before.
 
metsallica said:
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but now that the Wii U is out I'm thinking about transferring my stuff over and using my Wii as a homebrew test bed. If I do so, are there tools to change the region? I'd love to finally be able to play things like Disaster: Day of Crisis, Another Code R, Rhythm Heaven in Japanese, Pandora's Tower, Zengeki no Reginleiv (anything else I'm missing?). Is this possible? Again, pardon my ignorance, I've only dipped my toes very tentatively in these waters once before.
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Yeah, you can switch the region on some loaders on the Wii.
 
I want to retain my games on my Wii after I transfer them over to my Wii U when I get one. I

So the only think I need to install on my Wii (currently un-modded, is a launch day console and on 4.3E firmware) is Bootmii, so I can doa pre-transfer NAND backup, then a post-transfer NAND restore.

Looking at the instructions, it seems like I can just chose to install Bootmii on boot2 and not bother installing HBC. Does this sound right? Any forseeable issues with the WiiU tranfser if this is done?

If I have Bootmii installed, will that prevent me getting official firmware or store updates?
 
metsallica said:
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but now that the Wii U is out I'm thinking about transferring my stuff over and using my Wii as a homebrew test bed. If I do so, are there tools to change the region? I'd love to finally be able to play things like Disaster: Day of Crisis, Another Code R, Rhythm Heaven in Japanese, Pandora's Tower, Zangeki no Reginleiv (anything else I'm missing?). Is this possible? Again, pardon my ignorance, I've only dipped my toes very tentatively in these waters once before.
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You want to use one of the region free methods to launch your games. All the instructions to do this are in the tutorial linked in my tag.

SPE said:
I want to retain my games on my Wii after I transfer them over to my Wii U when I get one. I

So the only think I need to install on my Wii (currently un-modded, is a launch day console and on 4.3E firmware) is Bootmii, so I can doa pre-transfer NAND backup, then a post-transfer NAND restore.

Looking at the instructions, it seems like I can just chose to install Bootmii on boot2 and not bother installing HBC. Does this sound right? Any forseeable issues with the WiiU tranfser if this is done?

If I have Bootmii installed, will that prevent me getting official firmware or store updates?
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You will be able to do things as you propose without any risk at the moment, but we can never know for sure if something will end up detecting it in the future (I'd put the chances below 1%, though).
 
Clipper said:
Use Dop-Mii to reinstall Nintendo's MIOS.


Upgrade away.
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Thanks clip!

How much do we know about life post-Wii to Wii U transfer?

If I use a NAND backup to retain my games on the Wii, does that mean that I can never re-download them from Nintendo's servers on the Wii? All the re-download rights are locked to the Wii U from now on?

And what about if I ever buy another game from the Wii Shop... does that mean that it will forever be trapped on one machine or another?
 
BocoDragon said:
Thanks clip!

How much do we know about life post-Wii to Wii U transfer?

If I use a NAND backup to retain my games on the Wii, does that mean that I can never re-download them from Nintendo's servers on the Wii? All the re-download rights are locked to the Wii U from now on?

And what about if I ever buy another game from the Wii Shop... does that mean that it will forever be trapped on one machine or another?
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Yes, you lose download rights on the source console. Attempting it might also get your console banned from online as it is a kind of piracy.

I'm not sure about the terms and conditions, but I think you can transfer stuff from multiple Wiis to a single Wii U. This is what you would do if you ever bought anything new on the old Wii again, I think. This is just pure supposition on my part, so don't take it as granted.
 
[EDIT] ]Never mind- got it.


I don't know what the Wii U download GUI is like, but if it's not at least as good as CFG, Nintendo haven't been paying attention. So glad homebrew communities exist...
 
1) So just to ask one more time, if I update from 4.1U to 4.3U, nothing should happen to the homebrew?

2) I changed the region no problem. Everything is in english now, and the Wii itself says it's in 4.1U, but the CFG is still in Chinese. I redownloaded another version but it still shows stuff in chinese after I launch from the homebrew channel. any help please?

Thanks everyone.
 
BladeoftheImmortal said:
1) So just to ask one more time, if I update from 4.1U to 4.3U, nothing should happen to the homebrew?
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Provided your homebrew setup is up to date (done in the last year or two), yes.

2) I changed the region no problem. Everything is in english now, and the Wii itself says it's in 4.1U, but the CFG is still in Chinese. I redownloaded another version but it still shows stuff in chinese after I launch from the homebrew channel. any help please?

Thanks everyone.
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Cfg should only try to translate into Chinese if told to via config.txt. Try looking for the configuration files in the usb-loader directory on the SD/USB.
 
Clipper said:
Provided your homebrew setup is up to date (done in the last year or two), yes.


Cfg should only try to translate into Chinese if told to via config.txt. Try looking for the configuration files in the usb-loader directory on the SD/USB.
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well i just updated the hombrew channel to 1.10 so i should be fine then.
 
EmuNand needs you install games in wad form, you need convert your downloaded titles to .wad, and install them again on the EmuNand, USB Loader GX supports EmuNand, not sure about CFG.

But really it more comfortable launching them from a SD card.

Talking about .wad is always complicated because the slim piracy line =P
 
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