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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
- Thread starter RetroMG
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Which simple question is he not answering?
Yup to the first point
To the second, I'm not so sure. We need to lynch oreo at some point anyway. I had a light town read on Roy, but that has faded as time's gone on. Either way, there's no reason to let this go on.
Who was targeted n1? Did I miss that?
He didn't target anyone. He claimed that Hyper tried suicide by targeting himself and instead the target was chosen by RNG. I've asked him to clarify with Retro (or any of the other mods seeing that Retro will be busy today) whether or not that meant he effectively targeted Hyper or just ended up hitting Hyper.
I'm doing mother's day stuff, sorry. But Retro did PM me saying Hyper was told he couldn't douse himself and Roy was RNG picked when he didn't send in an alternate choice.
Yes, that's what I meant. I asked this yesterday and I am saying he is not being helpful for someone (quite belligerently) claiming he is being helpful. If he had said "I asked the mods" it'd be one thing, but he is just being defensive and insulting.
Ok then, thank you.
Now for the millionth time, Seath did you get a drink on night one?
So I was targeted by RNG. And then launch did his thing but I still got doused. And xam got targeted by Ourob, but still got his drink. Someone between you, Ourob and launch have to be lying, the chance that two people that got targeted on table 2 got targeted again despite launch his power is negligible at best.
Yuuuup
So you think Camjo is just a misguided town who pulled this gambit so we could move on to scum hunting? I don't buy that. Surely, he'd know we'd talk the hell out of this roleclaim.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
And the biggest bullshit is that Retro is obligated to state every action Hyper took, and yet he'd saying he doesn't know who Hyper targeted.
Riiiiight.
@Time: no, I'm saying he's scum
Riiiiight.
@Time: no, I'm saying he's scum
I must have missed this, but what do you mean break night?
Xamtheking
Member
He needs to recharge wvery so often
Are you hopping into the Seath train then ?
Join us.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
This Seath train is the stupidest thing. No I'm not getting on. Camjo is scum.
I have before. I would have.
I have before. I would have.
Since Burb insists on not moving or not being targeted.
Can you tell us more about yourself Time ? I know you hvae been kind ofthere but not really there so. Hi.
I would rather say that your name is the stupidest thing but well. Back to Camjo then ?
AbsolutBro
Member
So now you have to
Because it wouldnt be easy to prove false. Proving false would require a town PR to out themselves and admit that they have a power that targets; the chief options for that are doctor or cop. Not exactly roles that are going to jump at the chance to out themselves.
Of course you do.
Gotta admit, I laughed.
I don't know why you guys are being so obtuse. I said it when I revealed.
One LEGIT question to you launch. I hope you cannot dissapoint me there.
Night2 got solved in my book. It was either Camjo or Ty4on who moved.
Since Camjo Claimed saying he is the arsonist. Its pretty clear for me to get rid of him.
He did not kill those he wanted to kill because he got "blocked".
here comes the question though.
Day1 s still up in the air. Burb insists that he did not move on N1 since he claimed to be a commuter on even nights. That leaves Timeaisis on the Chopping block.
What are your thoughts on this situation ?
it seems that you never thought about it so i will force you to choke on it.
Night2 got solved in my book. It was either Camjo or Ty4on who moved.
Since Camjo Claimed saying he is the arsonist. Its pretty clear for me to get rid of him.
He did not kill those he wanted to kill because he got "blocked".
here comes the question though.
Day1 s still up in the air. Burb insists that he did not move on N1 since he claimed to be a commuter on even nights. That leaves Timeaisis on the Chopping block.
What are your thoughts on this situation ?
it seems that you never thought about it so i will force you to choke on it.
AbsolutBro
Member
I honestly forgot. I wasn't disbelieving that you had to break, btw, it just seems like a dick move to have to target EVERYONE alive AND take breaks.
Well I do get to target two people each night (granted, only at my table) though.
But design wise, what's the point? Why not make it one a night or something?
Your guess is as good as mine.
You are lying man. LIAR!
? How is anything I've said contradicted anything?
But Salva and Ty both said that they got a drink last night.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Nin, you're kind of out of control here man.
To answer your question to me: Wow, Burb is insisting on something; must make it legit.
/s
Yeah, that doesn't really add up either. Hyper just ragequitting? When has anyone ever done anything like that?
And Roy was chosen by Retro as Hyper's action? That says my ability didn't happen.
He actually clarified that a few post before this one:
This sounds to me like I got RNG'd doused before your claimed action went in effect, and after that action.....I was still doused.
Looks at Batman. Well............
Ok, nice to hear that Burb aswell as Time are still on your place. Just wanted to be sure.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Alright, well, I don't really have to prove this guy is lying about his role; we should lynch it just based on what he's told us.
OK.
I'm just confused why Nin keeps insisting that seat activity means person sitting there is scum, when:
a) They could be a town PR moving
b) They were targeted by some other power during that night.
Yet nin keeps making the assumption that the people sitting are scum. My thoughts are that the power is right now (as in: as we get more information, it might become more important) very hard to judge.
a) They could be a town PR moving
b) They were targeted by some other power during that night.
Yet nin keeps making the assumption that the people sitting are scum. My thoughts are that the power is right now (as in: as we get more information, it might become more important) very hard to judge.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I never said Ouro lied. I think he's telling the truth. The result makes sense knowing what I know.
Camjo's does not.
AbsolutBro
Member
You will have to take up why Hyper left with Hyper. I can only go off what is in game.
As for how Roy got targeted, if Launch shifted table 2 on N1 like he said, and Hyper tried to target himself (illegal according to Camjo), it is possible Retro did not bother to RNG a first target, scramble, and then RNG again. If the arsonist targets by person, as seems to be the case, and has no range limit, as seems to be the case, then there is no reason that Launch scrambling table 2 would have any impact on the RNG choice of Roy as the douse target for N1. It targets a person, and has no range.
The table scrambling abilities seem to literally only mess with our 1-seat-away passive players: Bronx's gossip chat, Kalor's passive anti-passive aura, and Nin/Terra for their motion detectingness.
That's one thing we can agree on. Camjo-Z should be the lynch today. I have no doubt about that.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
No, I don't believe that at all.
If Retro did an RNG to determine a target, then there was a target then a switch. Camjo should have a list of all the targets, not the results.
I already explained why I think that would be mad moderating and thus very unlikely:
Retro should have 100 % revealed that X to hyper/camjo. If you RNG an input command for someone for whatever reason, you tell that person what the result was of that RNG. It would be weird for that person not to know the action he send in that night, wouldn't it? That the target got RNG'd again after that because of some role is irrelevant to that. Hell, it may even make it MORE IMPORTANT to tell hyper/camjo their original target, since they can't figure it out themselves thanks to Launch his role. Their original X target is information they have a right to, and can use to figure out if Launch is lying or not, it is not irrelevant information at all. Denying them that would be weird and unfair. And I don't think Retro is unfair (but he is weird
AbsolutBro
Member
I would have to look over your claimed role list again, but so far other than Scrafty the town PRs that I can think of have all been passive ones that dont require night actions. At least one person moving around at night will almost always be scum (the NK, unless scum decide to skip for whatever reason). We have several moving neutrals though, with apparently non-dangerous powers (since Hyper originally had no ignite it seems?), which seem tailor made to mess with motion detectors (ala sleepwalkers).
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Exactly. I don't think Retro would do anything even remotely similar to this.
Camjo is lying out of his ass guys. We're still going to have an arso on the loose when this is over. Mark me.
Do you think that Camjo is a lying townie or lying scum?