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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals

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CzarTim

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I think Launch is scum. I think he has a role like a lynchbomb or something and pulled a gambit thinking a town PR would have to expose themselves to call him out. Or town believes him, and he coasts. I don't think xam and him are both town.
 
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Burbeting

Banned
Seath said:
So fill me in, most players have received a drink? Is this based around on what?
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Ouro claims that he gives two drinks per night, to people sitting next to each other.

In night 1, he said he tried to give drink to Xam and RNH, aka. you. Xam said that he received his drink, but it seems you didn't. However, Launch claims to have mixed the table where you were sitting that night.

In night 2, Ouro claimed to give drinks to CzarTim and Fireblend. Only Czar claimed to get a drink.

In night 3, Ouro claimed to give drinks to Ty4on and SalvaPot. This time, both confirmed to have received a drink.
 
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Ourobolus

Banned
Seath said:
So fill me in, most players have received a drink? Is this based around on what?
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Four players have received a drink from me. I send out drinks each night to two players adjacent to each other at my table (except when I have to recover). I win if I can get everyone to take a drink with me. Nights 1 and 2 only one of my drinks made it to their destination though. Both drinks arrived to my N3 recipients though.
 
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Kevyt

Member
Burbeting said:
Tim, if we assume there could be a scum voting for Weemad in day 2, who do you think it would most likely be?
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I was looking at this post earlier today and I really liked your analysis here: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=202441677

I do think timing is important.

I think we can rule out nin100 since he was the one that caught the scum Godfather, or the one that started it all.

You and him are my top town reads truth be told. I don't know about anyone else, but launch, time, and xam give me the scummy vibes.

I need to gather my thoughts some more.
 
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CzarTim

Member
Burbeting said:
Terra was the one to make Weemad the vote leader instead of Salva, though.
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You are saying there has to be one scum on the vote, and I'm not so sure that's the case. I don't think AB or Xam are on the scum team with Launch, so if I assume Launch is scum (which I am), TB would be my best guess.
 
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AbsolutBro

Member
Ourobolus said:
Four players have received a drink from me. I send out drinks each night to two players adjacent to each other at my table (except when I have to recover). I win if I can get everyone to take a drink with me. Nights 1 and 2 only one of my drinks made it to their destination though. Both drinks arrived to my N3 recipients though.
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Is it possible that one of your drinks made it to someone who was then night killed that night? The night kill usually haopens last, doesn't it?
 
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Burbeting

Banned
CzarTim said:
You are saying there has to be one scum on the vote, and I'm not so sure that's the case. I don't think AB or Xam are on the scum team with Launch, so if I assume Launch is scum (which I am), TB would be my best guess.
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I'm not sure if there any scum at all voting for weemad. I do agree with nin in that it's dangerous to assume everyone voting for weemad to be town, though. There would be a high chance for scum to coast to victory then.
 
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Kevyt

Member
I don't agree with turbos. We still have more than a day in real time?

But where is Bananasoaceprincess?

Just to put some pressure:

Vote: Bananaspaceprincess
 
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CzarTim

Member
Burbeting said:
I'm not sure if there any scum at all voting for weemad. I do agree with nin in that it's dangerous to assume everyone voting for weemad to be town, though. There would be a high chance for scum to coast to victory then.
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I'm not assuming it, I am just not using it as the base of my suspicions at the moment.
 
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Burbeting

Banned
Ty4on said:
Why hammer. Seath has barely joined and hasn't even started clearly whether not they received a drink.
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He did state he didn't receive it in his long post.

But hammering this early is unneeded. We still have more than enough time (and material) to actually scum hunt.
 
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Kevyt

Member
Burbeting said:
He did state he didn't receive it in his long post.

But hammering this early is unneeded. We still have more than enough time (and material) to actually scum hunt.
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This.
 
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AbsolutBro

Member
CzarTim said:
If Launch is scum, TB
If Launch is town, AB or xam
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Not that long ago I would have jumped all over this in a "I know I'm town so let's kill Launch" sort of way, but I had a thought while I was working in the garden about why he is so adamant I'm not town.

IF the secondary part of his role, or maybe the primary and he lied about table shuffling, is a role blocker, he may have blocked me last night thonking I would ignite or whatever. Since no one was doused he becomes even more sure I'm the arsonist (hence his "are you sure" post). Then when Camjo comes out as the arsonist, he thinks Camjo is scum trying to make a faustian bargain as a neutral to hide in plain sight. It explains:

1) why Launch may have tripped the motion detector
2) why he doesn't believe Camjo is the arsonist
3) why he still thinks I could be the arsonist

It would require a second roleblocker, but we supposedly have two neutrals trying to _____ everyone and two motion detectors, so why not two role blockers? One could even be a scum blocker.
 
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CzarTim

Member
AbsolutBro said:
Not that long ago I would have jumped all over this in a "I know I'm town so let's kill Launch" sort of way, but I had a thought while I was working in the garden about why he is so adamant I'm not town.

IF the secondary part of his role, or maybe the primary and he lied about table shuffling, is a role blocker, he may have blocked me last night thonking I would ignite or whatever. Since no one was doused he becomes even more sure I'm the arsonist (hence his "are you sure" post). Then when Camjo comes out as the arsonist, he thinks Camjo is scum trying to make a faustian bargain as a neutral to hide in plain sight. It explains:

1) why Launch may have tripped the motion detector
2) why he doesn't believe Camjo is the arsonist
3) why he still thinks I could be the arsonist

It would require a second roleblocker, but we supposedly have two neutrals trying to _____ everyone and two motion detectors, so why not two role blockers? One could even be a scum blocker.
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The table switch part of his claim is b.s. If he was hiding a roleblock, I'd think it a scum roleblock (or maybe someone else on his team has a rb and I'm right that he is a lynchbomb or has an override or something)

My other problem with Launch's behavior is how he keeps insisting we're giving him too much credit when people bring up he is lying about his role. All the while lying about his role.
 
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Ty4on

Member
By that comment on the lynch being settled I meant this is GAFia after all :p

If we ignore all the claims, what are people's read on Launch? I was a bit suspicious of him D1 because I couldn't get a town read of him.
 
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Burbeting

Banned
I'm still unsure if I should bring forth my thoughts on what Launch is. It would benefit scum if I was right, and launch was town though.
 
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Burbeting

Banned
Ty4on said:
By that comment on the lynch being settled I meant this is GAFia after all :p

If we ignore all the claims, what are people's read on Launch? I was a bit suspicious of him D1 because I couldn't get a town read of him.
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Well he did vote for Salva in D2, right after it became apparent that weemadarthur was possibly going to be lynched. That still bothers me.
 
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Ty4on

Member
Burbeting said:
Ty, any thoughts on your behaviour at the end of Day 2? It doesn't look exactly good now in retrospect.
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I went in with a suspicion on Bronx and Scrafty so her claims put a wrench in that. That's kinda why I was so uncertain of whom to vote for.

I realized Occam's Razor made Scrafty into likely town, but I still found her suspicious and I didn't like how she claimed.

As I've said before I was also at work during that time and not able to read thoroughly through the thread.
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

Banned
Well, in case you guys turbo, I would look at AB or Ty4on next phase. AB, I've said what I needed to about that, especially if Camjo is not an arso. Ty4on, I'm not sure. Lots of coasting there and I can't get a solid read on him. Maybe it's the mask.

CzarTim said:
If Launch is scum, TB
If Launch is town, AB or xam
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Where the fuck is this causality even coming from? lol

CzarTim said:
No, my votes on spiritually on cam. Are we going to turbo? We should turbo.

unvote
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I'm ready for turbo now.
 
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Camjo-Z

Member
Launch's insistence to push an AbsolutBro lynch even after my claim is really bizarre TBH. He either knows something he's not letting on or he's just REALLY averse to being wrong.
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

Banned
Camjo-Z said:
Launch's insistence to push an AbsolutBro lynch even after my claim is really bizarre TBH. He either knows something he's not letting on or he's just REALLY averse to being wrong.
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It's neither. There are a lot of inconsistencies in your claim. I'll drop AB for arso if you're really arso, simple as that.
 
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