I'm pretty sure there is 3 scum alive, not 1-2.
If there is 3 alive then there is more of a claim to made about one of the ordinaries lying about its role, fire, seath and me are the only ones without a proper claim, and ordinary is the obvious claim to make.
Also, burb, why weren't you targeted on night 5?
LaunchpadMcQ the jailor was running around, wasn't he? Jailing is much more dangerous power to scum.
If there is 3 alive then there is more of a claim to made about one of the ordinaries lying about its role, fire, seath and me are the only ones without a proper claim, and ordinary is the obvious claim to make.
I think claims that directly contradict the detectors could be useful. I think scum used some sort of blocking on Nin and proof of when and where they've blocked can be useful in triangulating scum.I'm almost tempted to suggest we mass claim at this point.
Fwiw both detectors detected motion the night when Camjo was blocked.
The point is neither were blocked, not what the necessarily detected.That doesn't tell us much. Nin was between Kalor and Bronx (Bronx died), and Terra was between Burb and Launch. Launch most likely jailed someone, though that doesn't necessarily clear Burb.
That doesn't tell us much. Nin was between Kalor and Bronx (Bronx died), and Terra was between Burb and Launch. Launch most likely jailed someone, though that doesn't necessarily clear Burb.
The point is neither were blocked, not what the necessarily detected.
If someone claims moving next to a detector that didn't detect them. That's what I meant with it could be useful to claim if you have contradictory info.Oh, gotcha. How would we know if they were blocked though?
AB didn't chime in after the nin/Ty4on thing - I also want to hear his thoughts on the contradicting info we had today.
Nin has been pretty high on my town list until today. Now he's only slightly town. I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt but he's been making it kinda hard today.Terra, how do you feel about nin?
Nin, how do you feel about terra?
It's not that I think nin is being an asset, it's just that tanner-esque play from a scum player this late in the game seems unlikely.
As to the conflicting info, it would honestly not have been hard for Ty4on to guess a drink was coming his way. Look at the map. Czar and Burb already had drinks, Xam did too but we killed him. There were two people next to each other without drinks, Ty4on and Nin. They were literally the only choice.
Why would Ty4on lie about getting a drink, and what would stop him? No idea. Maybe scum's role blocker is actually another jailer (to keep scum safe from gasoline and martinis?). I heavily doubt it, but it is a possibility and would fit the seeming duality of this game. (Two motion trackers, two neutral cowlicks, two jailers, etc.)
Sorry I'm at a bar and a bit tipsy.
And that there isn't any misunderstanding like the detectors not detecting incoming actions.
Anyways, if Nin is telling the truth and we haven't misunderstanding his power then it looks to me like scum tried to hide CzarTim.
VOTE: CzarTim
And that there isn't any misunderstanding like the detectors not detecting incoming actions.
Anyways, if Nin is telling the truth and we haven't misunderstanding his power then it looks to me like scum tried to hide CzarTim.
VOTE: CzarTim
The problem is the only person at my table without a drink last night was nin. Scum would have known oreo was going to target him + someone on either side of him. This was a known entity. So why the fuck would they block nin if they knew he'd give a false report.
All right, here we go
Dead Players:
Town
Gryvan ordinary
Kingkitty ordinary
BananaSpacePrincess ordinary
roytheone ordinary
ScraftyDevil cop
LaunchpadMcQ jailor
Xamtheking shuffler
scum
Weemadarthur godfather
Kalor disabler
neutral
Camjo-Z arsonist
Alive players
a Seath unintended consequences
b Ourobolus drink giver
c Salvapot Royal_Flush
d nin1000 Motion detector
e burbeting even commuter
f terrabyte20xx Motion detector
g fireblend ???
h czartim ordinary
i ty4on ordinary
j timeasis ordinary
k absolutbro ordinary
That is a grand total of 8 ordinary players out of 22. I call shenanigans.
Terra, how do you feel about nin?
Nin, how do you feel about terra?
I've thought about Roy targeted to also put pressure on me because I was scum reading him yesterday.[...]So either A) scum fucked up B) they had an ulterior motive (in this case I think it'd be to cast doubt on nin and/or Ty).
lolHow does everyone feel about burb being one of the potential lynch candidates?
If it's a mistake then the only reason I see for them to "block" Nin is to hide your movement because you had to move. The issue with that last line is say the role blocker isn't watched by any detectors, why not just make them do the kill and let scum that is being detected stay idle? If the role blocker is being watched then why not just make some other scum member perform the kill? Like it only makes sense if all three scum members are being watched which I seriously doubt or if your power is too powerful to not use.The other thing is of the 3 potential roleblockers, fire had the least heat on him. So I dunno?
This is all wifom though. Scum might have just been trying to create as much confusion as possible to keep town disorganized.
Right and I was next to one of the md yesterday so it's not like I needed to be "cleared" so this just seems like a frame job.lol
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If it's a mistake then the only reason I see for them to "block" Nin is to hide your movement because you had to move. The issue with that last line is say the role blocker isn't watched by any detectors, why not just make them do the kill and let scum that is being detected stay idle? If the role blocker is being watched then why not just make some other scum member perform the kill? Like it only makes sense if all three scum members are being watched which I seriously doubt or if your power is too powerful to not use.
It also seems far fetched, but I can see this being a setup. If they thought about it they'd deduce Ouro would target Nin and someone next to him.
Right and I was next to one of the md yesterday so it's not like I needed to be "cleared" so this just seems like a frame job.
This is tough. I was town reading you for most of this game but the jailer thing just seemed like a big reach. And while I was town reading you, it wasn't like 100% so I felt like the information out weighed the read.Am I misreading this or are you not as suspicious of me as you were yesterday?
Well I don't have as much as I hoped to have. But I'm working out some reads anyway.
01. AbsolutBro [m] Seems to be scum hunting and trying to figure things out. Some baiting of power roles though. Questionable.
04. Burbeting [m] Despite his participation, I keep forgetting he's in this game. The only thing I'm pretty sure about, is that he's not a miller.
06. CzarTim [m] Seems scummy. He always seems scummy. I think he's one of the players who I read that way, no matter their alignment. Yet I can't pick out an obvious issue to attack. Will watch closely.
07. Fireblend [m] I was able to easily town read Fireblend in batman. He was relaxed and enjoying the game. Here he is suddenly tense and over serious. Something is different. It could be that he's scum.
10. Nin1000 [m] Weird stuff here. Is he drunk or not paying attention? Or scum trying to waste our time by re-explaining everything that's been finished. I have a null read overall, but there are some things bugging me.
11. Ourobolus [m] Has been contributing. Engages with other players with no apparent stress. Asks and answers questions without problem. I have a slightly town read.
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m] Is afk. But the posts he has made are very non committal. He says oh, I think, maybe, maybe not. Not getting a town vibe here.
14. Salvapot [m] Everything he's done has seemed scummy, yet when I questioned him directly he had a believable response. I guess he's not my top three scum.
16. Terrabyte20xx [m] I have trouble reading Terrabyte. I heavily scum read him in our first game, where he was town. His play style is so different from mine that we will probably clash. I don't think his play varies that much by his alignment. Lots of people are doubting his motion detector claim for undisclosed reasons, I can't offer any insight. Would have trouble defending, but I have a different lynch candidate in mind.
17. Timeaisis [m] I don't even remember him at this point. I think I'm confusing his name with other players. I guess I'll say he's blending.
18. Ty4on [m] Feels similar to his play in batman. He was town.
FYI, the info said that there was no movement yet someone managed to put a drink in front of me.
It tasted great btw
This may be a strange question, but you detect motion on the seats to either side of yourself. Do you detect motion on yourself? (i.e., when you have been targeted) If not, it might explain why you got a drink but sensed nothing. A dead space, so to speak. If Czar and Ty4on already had a drink, I believe Ouro said he just wastes the drink.
Ty4on said that he received another drink, so I'll assume he got a PM about it. I doubt that receiving would go unnoticed by Motion Detectors.
This may be a strange question, but you detect motion on the seats to either side of yourself. Do you detect motion on yourself? (i.e., when you have been targeted) If not, it might explain why you got a drink but sensed nothing. A dead space, so to speak. If Czar and Ty4on already had a drink, I believe Ouro said he just wastes the drink.