Bronx...mate, you do realize this isn't the least bit convincing right? You're basically just saying 'I'M TOWN' and upending the board. If you really think Crab is scum then source some examples, make a case. As of now you're telling us to believe you only on faith, which is pretty hard to do on the morning of a role claim.
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TheWorthyEdge
Member
Nah, I'm sure you're not dumb as hell. I voted for you day 1 simply because I had other things to worry about during that time frame, I wasn't influenced into voting for ya.
Still I think you could've waited a bit longer and maybe the time never would've came having to tell us your role.
What about him is town to you? Disappearing for half of D1, coming back to make a dumb vote on me, taking credit for every inactive coming back at the same time, focusing on Squidy out of nowhere? This is town to you?
I believe him. Sorian already had a vote on him and I can see why he would see himself as an easy target.
Stan claimed poisoned early, if things were going against Bronx and then he claimed Poison Doctor it would have seemed desperate and unbelievable. If he is true then the early claim makes the most sense, if he felt like he needed to claim at all.
I think Bronx is telling the truth. The claim is really stupid, but it's consistent with him playing his roles really badly (sorry not sorry Bronx).
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yup. I think I do as well.
I didn't say he was. All I wanted was a convincing argument from you besides 'he's scum'.
That is a good argument.
Bronx, unless I missed it, you haven't exactly advocated for your own survival based on the fact that you could, perhaps, save multiple poisoned people, not just Stan. Why?
This was my line of thought when I 1st thought about Bronx's claim. Why are we hearing these things from you instead of Bronx himself?
I could theoretically. But I doubt scum would keep me alive past N2. Ergo, the only person I could be able to save is Stanley.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Not surprised by the Bronx claim. At least he did it early in the day so we don't pile a bunch of votes on him first, then have him claim 30 minutes before deadline and have enough people away/unconvinced to not change anything?
2 hours between Stanley claiming poison and Bronx's claim. If he's lying, that's not a lot of time to come up with poison doctor, but of course it would be a lot easier if he already knew the existence of such a role. I don't see scum Bronx jumping in with an outlandish claim like that.
2 hours between Stanley claiming poison and Bronx's claim. If he's lying, that's not a lot of time to come up with poison doctor, but of course it would be a lot easier if he already knew the existence of such a role. I don't see scum Bronx jumping in with an outlandish claim like that.
Blargonaut
Banned
Business or pleasure?
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
So you all realise thar bronx has explained his reason for claiming. Right?
Its not a good reason by by means. But it is what it is and repeating the question wont get you a differant answer.
Now. I would like to not die. Selfish I know, but I guess im just not perfect. Now we (well, you) will have plenty of chances to lynch bronx, not to mention later days will let you make a more informed decision. We have one chance to save me. Lynch bronx now and if he was telling the truth you just killed 2 townies. Hes lying. I die regardless. You can lynch him later.
We do not "lose a day" by waiting, not lynching bronx does not mean a no-lynch. And there are still scum to be hunted elsewhere in the meantime.
Something something eyes unclouded by hate. I hate posting on mobile. You get my point by now? If not I can elaborate later.
Its not a good reason by by means. But it is what it is and repeating the question wont get you a differant answer.
Now. I would like to not die. Selfish I know, but I guess im just not perfect. Now we (well, you) will have plenty of chances to lynch bronx, not to mention later days will let you make a more informed decision. We have one chance to save me. Lynch bronx now and if he was telling the truth you just killed 2 townies. Hes lying. I die regardless. You can lynch him later.
We do not "lose a day" by waiting, not lynching bronx does not mean a no-lynch. And there are still scum to be hunted elsewhere in the meantime.
Something something eyes unclouded by hate. I hate posting on mobile. You get my point by now? If not I can elaborate later.
Blargonaut
Banned
- RIP squidy, Bad seafood always gets the best of us
- RIP Natiko, #2soon5me
- Someone slipped a message under my door last Night, telling me that I'm a filthy, dirty, filthy, dirty, absolutely nasty shit (paraphrasing) and they would appreciate my input; how scandalous! Signed, "everyone else". I'm sure "everyone else" loves you too <3 In fact, I bet "everyone else" loves you so, so much; they'd ask you who'd you think you're facing off man, whaddaya say we CUT THE CHIT-CHAT, A WHOLE. What's your character limit, you secret fuck? GET OUT
- Bronx, you fucked up
- Bronx!
- Crab.
- Stan, Bronx.
- OUUUUUUUUUT
you decide
Blargonaut
Banned
Bronx, what do you think it means
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Going back through the D1 votes and I still find it interesting that some were championing Crab v Swamped yet it's squidy that bites it.
If the two main wagons are town-town, scum usually back off and let it run. Town looks for scum reactions so they don't fight against it either.
Post 1279, vote count. Crab 4, Bronx 3, acohrs 2, Swamped 2, Squidy 2, Faddy 2, 3 others with 1 vote.
Post 1280:
Post 1283, Blarg votes Faddy. Whatever.
Post 1284:
Post 1287, vote count. Crab 3, Bronx 3, Faddy 3, acohrs 2, Swamped 2, Squidy 2.
Post 1290, Blarg votes squidy. Whatever.
Post 1293, vote count. Crab 3, Bronx 3, Squidy 3.
Post 1296, Faddy votes Squidy.
Post 1297, Blarg votes Swamped.
Post 1298, Natiko votes Squidy.
Post 1309:
I mean, the timing is a little suspect since at this point Crab and Squidy are tied at 4. But Natiko flipped town.
After this a couple more votes drop on Squidy and his fate is sealed.
If the two main wagons are town-town, scum usually back off and let it run. Town looks for scum reactions so they don't fight against it either.
Post 1279, vote count. Crab 4, Bronx 3, acohrs 2, Swamped 2, Squidy 2, Faddy 2, 3 others with 1 vote.
Post 1280:
Post 1283, Blarg votes Faddy. Whatever.
Post 1284:
Post 1287, vote count. Crab 3, Bronx 3, Faddy 3, acohrs 2, Swamped 2, Squidy 2.
Post 1290, Blarg votes squidy. Whatever.
Post 1293, vote count. Crab 3, Bronx 3, Squidy 3.
Post 1296, Faddy votes Squidy.
Post 1297, Blarg votes Swamped.
Post 1298, Natiko votes Squidy.
Post 1309:
I mean, the timing is a little suspect since at this point Crab and Squidy are tied at 4. But Natiko flipped town.
After this a couple more votes drop on Squidy and his fate is sealed.
Blargonaut
Banned
I must say, the prior pages have been quite pleasant, eventful conversation. My apologies for shattering your immersion
Please, continue.
Please, continue.
And for that I apologize.
Honestly, after this I might just take a break from Mafia for a bit. Between this and DR3, I've been getting really unhinged as time goes on.
Blargonaut
Banned
I feel so bad for ruining this pleasant lounge mystery atmosphere you had going on for a bit there
How can I possibly rectify this, for you
How can I possibly rectify this, for you
Lone_Prodigy
Member
VOTE: Swamped
You don't lynch a PR claim at this point that can be verified (though that's suspect since they can be roleblocked). Also, blow hot air somewhere else, him retracting doesn't matter in the least. Either he is scum or he isn't, if he's not then scum sin't going to suddenly believe if he say "hey! j/k! lolol"
Why would I vote off wagon and potentially cause a tie? I'm not clairvoyant, just because I don't scum read two people doesn't mean they can't be scum. I threw my vote on Crab next iirc because he was the vote that put things closest to a tie and that usually gets people to actually come out of hiding to make sure there isn't a no lynch. It never tied though, Crab was always one behind so people didn't care.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Forgot to mention that after Sorian voted Crab, the vote count with 5 minutes left was Squidy 6 and Crab 5. I think if Crab was scum, his teammates would be a little antsy about how close it is and swing it towards Squidy. Either they were AFK or their votes were already on Squidy.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Take it from me...do it. Feels good, but there's always some room for Mafia!
How does your analysis lead to the conclusion that Swamped is scum?
Blargonaut
Banned
I tell you, for reals; ever since Love Boat, I learned the value of taking this far slower in my heart than in my head. "Reads" and analyses are well and good, but when you're stuck in, it's a heart-of-the-cards game, my friend. And Bronx, man, you gotta clutch those cards closer to your chest, you know; they're, like, Role-cards. With Roles on them. They're not real, the spoon is the one.
Blargonaut
Banned
Sorian, I'm ready.
Why are you worth saving Stan?
Blargonaut
Banned
Role-fishing only looks good on me, Kyan.
What makes you think I am fishing?
Blargonaut
Banned
Of course you'd say that.
Blargonaut
Banned
You sent me that message, didn't you?
I know it was you, Kyan.
I know it was you, Kyan.
I knew you would be.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Because it was looking like Crab v Swamped and then squidy came mostly out of nowhere. It was also convenient that he didn't post much and wasn't around at days' end.
Well if it was Kyan we have a bit of an issue in our hands. As you might recall, I am not Kyan.
Blargonaut
Banned
Talk to me, Sorian.
While I don't like how Bronx has revealed their role I'm inclined to believe them. They could be scum trying to pass themselves off as a poison doctor, hoping to force the real one to claim but if your going to do that you would do it in a less clumsy way. The way he revealed himself was always going to bring suspicion while I think scum would be a bit more careful with it. Though maybe that's expecting too much.
Blargonaut
Banned
You know, this all feels kinda awkward; I get the sense I just dragged D1 back into your D2 sensibilities and I feel out of place in this modern Day. Someone, please, anyone; pour me a nice cup of topic and get me in this game, yeah?
Who do you think is scum?
Blargonaut
Banned
Just hit me with all we got. All of it. Ask away.
My issue with the "lynch Bronx" movement is I can completely believe this:
And if he's taking orders I don't know who would think the "unblockable" part was a good idea.
Then again the unblockable part is clearly false so hes at least partly lying.
Nope no idea.
Bronx I think you should full claim, last chance no take-backsies. If you're sticking with unblockable poison doctor I'm gonna have to assume you're lying.
But I can't see scum-Bronx making all this up in a bold gambit. Unless he's taking orders from someone else it's not his play style at all.
And if he's taking orders I don't know who would think the "unblockable" part was a good idea.
Then again the unblockable part is clearly false so hes at least partly lying.
Nope no idea.
Bronx I think you should full claim, last chance no take-backsies. If you're sticking with unblockable poison doctor I'm gonna have to assume you're lying.
Yeah, I said this to Burb earlier, it's dangerous to just assume that scum has the poisoner and thus anyone poisoned is likely town.
Despite Sorian's post it was never Swamped.
swamped (3)
sorian 62 (135)
verelios 396 (1234)
crab 1207
ccs 1275
blargonaut 1297 (1303)
kalor 1317
End of day Crab votes to make it 2 on Swamped.
Vere unvotes -seems legit since that is an early vote
So back to 1. CCS then moves to Swamped (and this is where the fake momentum seems to come from). Sorian for some reason wants Swamped but never put his vote there
Blarg does a drive by vote/unvote.
So Swamped was a legit threat to be lynch for 6 posts.
Kalor's vote comes in after me and Natiko put our votes on squidy which had made it a clear squid vs crab situation.
Once those votes play out it is 4 on Crab and on Squidy. Pretty quickly Kawl and Stan come in and push it over the top.
If you want to look for votes that saved Swamped I don't think you will find any (unless you want to count Blarg who was just messing with ties imo)
If you want to look at votes that saved Crab then you have CCS, Me, Natiko, Stan and Kawl.
Natiko flipped town (and I know I'm town) so that leaves me with 3 candidates for scum mates if we flip Crab scum. CCS is my top target but I haven't rule out the other 2 as well.