Ah, this argument. No, we can't be sure that scum would lynch Bronx, even if he is telling the truth. Block, redirect, jail, etc., the possibilities are endless when we don't know what powers the meanies have. Why kill Town Poison Doc Bronx M.D. when they could block (or something) him, killing (town?) Stan and throwing major shade on Bronx, all but ensuring his death on d3.
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Ah, this argument. No, we can't be sure that scum would lynch Bronx, even if he is telling the truth. Block, redirect, jail, etc., the possibilities are endless when we don't know what powers the meanies have. Why kill Town Poison Doc Bronx M.D. when they could block (or something) him, killing (town?) Stan and throwing major shade on Bronx, all but ensuring his death on d3.
Anyway, shall we discuss things other than Bronx, given discussion of him swallowed up a large amount of yesterday and I'd rather not have a repeat today, regardless of the outcome?
First up, it there anyone around who has the time to go back and summarise the important bits of Nat's posts from yesterday?
First up, it there anyone around who has the time to go back and summarise the important bits of Nat's posts from yesterday?
That was the impression I got flicking through the thread. If that was incorrect, that was probably down to me not reading very thoroughly because I had a couple of pages to read and wanted to get back to Horizon.
Early game spoilers:
Anyone who can look away from the Proving to do anything else has no soul.
Looking at Swamped votes since Faddy mentioned them again, noticed this:
Verelios you have anything to add to this? Some reason you are apparently townreading so many people on day 1?
This is very shortly after Crab makes a case (and votes) for Swamped. Vere claims he'll vote for "any slight scum read"... but not Bronx. Or squidy. Or Swamped I guess since he goes as far as unvoting her here. That only left Crab as a candidate but he didn't vote him either. In the end he votes some hopeless non-candidate (acohrs I think).
Verelios you have anything to add to this? Some reason you are apparently townreading so many people on day 1?
I'm very suspicious of all those people who claim there was a Swamped train. I just don't see it.
Maybe people didn't believe me and Natiko were both going to move our votes to squidy?
I'm still riding thinking that CCS scum read his team mate and then got caught in the initial anti-Crab wave and couldn't get off. If CCS doesn't switch to Swamped I wouldn't have switch to squidy and perhaps Natiko wouldn't have followed. The Crab lynch falls apart on those votes.
Hang on, you switched off Crab before I did. If you're trying to pin the Crab lunch falling apart on me, you either have a bad memory or you're deliberately misrepresenting what happened.
I remember you trying to get Natiko to vote squid for a while, I don't remember him responding much until he actually voted (correct me if I'm wrong).
My current thoughts on CCS are fairly dependent on Crab's alignment. If Crab is town then I see no reason for scum to swap from Crab to swamped, so CCS is town also. If Crab is scum then it's much less certain - CCS is still likely town but there is the possibility you outlined above that CCS took the first chance to get off of his teammate. CCS was one of the most critical of Crab's play though which is why I still have him as likely town.
Worth pointing out that although Faddy voted squidy after I switched my vote, he'd already unvoted Crab, so the Crab lynch was falling apart anyway when I moved.
Natiko said possibly. It seems clear he was in agreement since he switched to squidy right after me. As I said I was waiting for him but went ahead and voted when you prodded me.
CCS is posting complete garbage right now. The Crab vote hadn't collapsed. Even after I unvoted he was still in the lead by 2.
It seemed like it was collapsing. As I said I was only skimming the thread at that point.
Because it seemed like the lynch on him was collapsing, so I switched to one that seemed like it was developing. I don't know if you're hoping for some kind of gotcha moment, but that happens to be the truth.
Meh, not really, and while I do have a couple of other scum reads neither of them are stronger.
VOTE: Crab
Amusing fact, I say that so often that my phone now automatically suggests "Crab" when I type "Vote:"
WhereAreMahDragonz
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This screams "I'm trying to protect my teammates!"
Also why are you trying to direct conversation a certain way? Hmm
I literally already said scum can't block me.
Or, I don't think either are scum and scum are happy for the first two days to be about squidy, crab, and swamped. Hence, I'm trying to pursue other avenues.
Also, why don't you want to discuss other things? HMMMM
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Some thoughts on Dr. Bronx
- If he is scum: very risky play. perhaps to guarantee him making it a few more days, and to fish for town roles, but either way it puts a lot of suspicion on him unnecessarily.
- If he is town: what the actual fuck are you doing dude that is the worst play I've seen yet
- If he is neutral: I think this is the most likely scenario. I think the possibility of him being an executioner or jester type is more likely than him actually claiming what he says he is. Executioner in that he is fishing for a counterclaim in an attempt to get them mislynched by the town, and jester in that he automatically makes himself a target. This would also explain his soft-claim of a veteran type ability. "Don't kill me at night, scum, you'll have to do it during the day teehee"
Long story short, it's more likely that he's a neutral or scum than town. I can't fucking fathom a scenario in which town!Bronx would think claiming such a powerful role without any provocation would be a good move.
- If he is scum: very risky play. perhaps to guarantee him making it a few more days, and to fish for town roles, but either way it puts a lot of suspicion on him unnecessarily.
- If he is town: what the actual fuck are you doing dude that is the worst play I've seen yet
- If he is neutral: I think this is the most likely scenario. I think the possibility of him being an executioner or jester type is more likely than him actually claiming what he says he is. Executioner in that he is fishing for a counterclaim in an attempt to get them mislynched by the town, and jester in that he automatically makes himself a target. This would also explain his soft-claim of a veteran type ability. "Don't kill me at night, scum, you'll have to do it during the day teehee"
Long story short, it's more likely that he's a neutral or scum than town. I can't fucking fathom a scenario in which town!Bronx would think claiming such a powerful role without any provocation would be a good move.
What makes you think Crab is town specifically? All he's done so far is disappear and come back to whine and moan about how bad this game is, how bad I am, etc. What exactly about him reads town to you?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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You said "they'd be sorry"
I really have to spell this out?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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You never once specified that you were roleblock immune I'm not a fucking mind reader
WhereAreMahDragonz
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You're gonna make me jump off a bridge
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What is the point of a poisoner role existing in a game where there is a roleblock-proof poison-doctor?
Ask Ouro.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Vote: Bronx-Man
All of this reeks of bullshit
All of this reeks of bullshit
There are other actions than blocking that could manipulate you (unless...). And I had some questions for you as well, mind answering those when you have the time?
Did you understand unblockable? Because I took it as a veteran threat.
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Why would a poison doctor be unblockable? 🤔
I visit him at night.
Great idea! I die and Stanley is doomed! Awesome idea, Dragon.
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No, don't fuck around like that. You know there's no point. Poisoner becomes utterly redundant if a roleblock-proof poisoner exists. They can only have any effect if the roleblock-poisoner dies before the poisoner does, but if the roleblock-poisoner claims, they won't get lynched, can't get blocked, and protective roles will be on them all day erry day, that's incredibly unlikely to happen. Ouro would not make a setup that way.
Please can we lynch Bronx? Please? Just read his posts, they're so obviously and clearly lies!
Same reason I read you as town, scum can't be this bad at hiding
Go ahead.
You do realize if I'm lynched and flip town, everyone in this game is going to be gunning for you, right?
You know what, go ahead! That would entertain the hell outta me.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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If you were really town you wouldn't have claimed at all and would have just healed Stan on the down low
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I mean, I'm gonna flip town when scum NK's me anyway.
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So why the fuck did you claim?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I'll say this again I really do think Bronx is a neutral and neutrals are bad
I really really really really really don't think he's town, if he is I'll eat my foot
I really really really really really don't think he's town, if he is I'll eat my foot
How many people are actually playing this game at the moment, versus coasting? I know we can't really start lynching coasters at random, but I'm slightly worried about the possibility that there might be only one or two active scum and the rest are all coasting and will just watch as we lynch a succession of active players.
That's more or less exactly how Zelda went down.
That's more or less exactly how Zelda went down.
...unless you are a ascetic poison doctor. The questions, please. @#1474