I keep going back and finding his ardent defense of you so strange. It's weird because I can't think of anything that would really make him so sure of your alignment...besides the obvious.
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And he is. During the work day I keep appraised of the thread and respond to ongoing conversations but I don't have time to do a thorough read of past pages and ISO people.
Don't try to twist this into something you get credit for again. Thats as tiresome now as it was before.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
VOTE: StanleyPalmtree
Something about all of this doesn't sit well with me at all. There's something off about all of this. Feels like a Scum plan to throw everybody off but they didn't have enough patience to wait.
Something about all of this doesn't sit well with me at all. There's something off about all of this. Feels like a Scum plan to throw everybody off but they didn't have enough patience to wait.
Blargonaut
Banned
Very unlikely he's getting lynched today, just so you know
I chuckled at both of these.
That I had a N0 alignment check?
This is not the case.
I feel like I say this every game. Why would I defend a scum mate so hardcore? No one ever has an answer for this, I'm one person, though very persuasive, but why would I go for such short term tactic? All it does it kill me if Crab is scum which you're proposing I would know.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Why are you so sure?
Once you would flip scum, Crab could say "obviously Sorian was framing me in case he got lynched", if Crab flipped you could say "obviously I wouldn't defend my scum teammate this visibly".
(I don't really get the feeling Sorian & Crab are in cahoots, personally)
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
okay! i admit it! you got me!
its really just food poisoning, probably from last night when i took a bite out of crab,
you know how seafood is.
no but seriously, do you have anything more than vague existential angst?
I don't think CCS and acohrs are teammates personally.
That said, why are we doing groups of 5 reads? We don't even have a flipped scum yet. Find one scum, work from there.
Cribbing off scum!CCS.
The CCS and acohrs thing initially I wasn't buying they were both scum either. BUT I kept reading people saying scum acohrs and pointing out how most of his stuff was mainly fluff. And when I read acohrs responding to CCS it seems even more fake to me that their flirtations in the past.
CCS also said in our Quarantine Outer chat that it would be weird if he didn't buddy up to acohrs. Also they have both targeted L_P as the inactive player we should go after and veered away from targeting TWE. So just a lot of little things makes me think they are both scum.
Be honest with me. How much of this is crazy Blarg and how much is real?
I don't really like this kind of questions. I don't know why they seem suspicious. Any clue?
I never played with an poisoner (or an arsonist by the way). So, what would be the objetive of a poisoner? Killing a certain player? Killing a number of players? Surviving?
I assume you are asking about a neutral. All 3 of those would be valid. Add in "killing x number of town and Y number of scum" as well.
Yes. If the poisoner is scum he would have the same goal as the rest of the scum team.
I'm trying to think how the poisoner and poison doctor relate to this game.
What If... The poisoner is part of the scum team and Natiko was taken out by a vigilante. How does it balance if the vigilante has someone who can cure their delayed kills? It makes their kills very difficult to get off if there is a dedicated player out there to stop them with no apparent backlash from claiming.
The poisoner on the scum team would be one of several ways the scum team have an allotment of ways they can kill town. Using poison on night 1 would make sense since it introduces a whole lot of confusion.
That is hugely speculative but the idea might be something.
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Okay, I want to start my analysis of D1s end from post 1283. Why? Because at this point, I have 3 votes, bronx-man has 3 votes, faddy has 3 votes, acohrs has 2 votes, swamped has 2 votes, squidyj has 2 votes, and theres a number of people on 1 vote. This is an ideal situation for scum: theres a highly diverse set of wagons they can get going. Anyone with at least 2 votes is a contender to turn into a last minute lynch evidence of this being squidyj. Scum have a number of goals in this situation. The first is obviously to avoid scum being lynched. So we want to look out for abortive wagons, where theres a lot of fos, but not much voting. The second is to avoid leaving a trail. Its always a lesson worth remembering in Mafia that most wagons on town are composed of other town. Scum only need to do a few pokes here and there and get town to follow them, and the rest of scum team will be defending the main wagon (but not too hard). So what we want to look out for is people arguing against the eventual victim (squidyj), but only in a very lukewarm manner, not enough to actually avert it. Could scum bus? Possibly, but very unlikely and Im not going to consider it in this post. Theres just no need to do so at such an early stage in the game.
Sorian argues for Bronx over Swamped. So, what are our possibilities if Sorian is scum? Swamped is scum, Sorian is protecting. Swamped is not scum, Sorian suspects Swamped will get lynched, and Sorian wants to be on the good side. So: at that point in time, I simply dont think Swamped looked ready to take off. Swamped had a vote from me, and I was busy being the Ivan Lendl of the thread, and vote from CCS, who not many listen too very seriously. It seems implausible to me that Swamped was necessarily going to take off. Could Sorian be protecting? Possible. If so, I think Sorian might have swung against me. On the other side, I looked like the most likely candidate, so Sorian could have been doing the dual role of trying to steer away from Swamped while also building credibility by backing me for when I flipped town.
Blargonaut switches from Faddy to squidyj. This is interesting because this is where squidyj really kicks off, and marks the very start of the proper wagon against him. Again, though: not at all obvious at this point who is going where. Blarg could have voted squidy to be outside of the main points of contention, or to protect Faddy, who was tied as a vote-leader. I dont think there was a need to protect Faddy. All of the players who had seriously mentioned Faddy by this point were already on Faddys wagon. To be outside of the main contention? Blarg has never been worried by that. I dont see scum Blarg here.
Splinter foses Faddy in 1294. I find this moderately suspect. If he had put a vote down, Faddy would have gone back up to 3 votes, been a tied vote-leader, and had clear momentum. But instead, Splinter remains detached, and his current vote on squidyj. This could be a lukewarm avoidance again. But Splinter has been on squidyj a very long time, could just be unwillingness to leave a tunnelled vote. Benefit of the doubt here.
Faddy votes squidyj in 1296 in response to being called out by Splinter. Faddy has shown no real interest in squidyj prior to this point. Faddy offers no explanation for voting squiddyj. This definitely seems scummy to me. Its the first vote to put squidyj into the lead, ahead of myself and Bronx. Obviously fmpov he cant be protecting me. So why squidyj, rather than bronx-man, who Faddy fosd in 455? This is very unclear to me. The only reason I can see is that last time he tried bronx-man, he got called out by franconp and got very flustered. I dont think this is a protection of Bronx by going squiddyj so much as a very safe vote from someone who needed to find a safe place to put a vote.
Blarg shifts from squidyj to Swamped. Clearly not protecting squidyj, as we know. Could just be thinking Swamped wont really get lynched after all, but that pulls Swamped onto 3 and causes a fourway tie for top tied candidate with Swamped obviously having the momentum. Pretty dangerous if Swamped actually was scum. Again, Blargs dynamics here dont match scum to me.
Natiko votes squidyj. Interesting, because here we have a confirmed example of town/town interaction leading to town lynch a reminder that pushing for the lynch of someone who flips town doesnt make you scum in and of itself. However, to test my theory, suppose we didnt know Natikos alignment because someone else had died. Natikos vote is on acohrs. Acohrs is clearly not taking off. Natiko switching to squidy isnt hiding away, squidy is now the favourite for lynch. Natiko could be protecting amongst Swamped / bronx / squidyj. We know not squidyj. I think if Natiko not died, I would have been moderately suspicious. This is important and I want to come back to it later.
Stanley votes acohrs. Acohrs is clearly not taking off, especially as Natiko just left acohrs with a solitary vote. This is actually Stanleys first vote all day right before the deadline. Pretty unusual. If I were scum, I wouldnt be dodging off to acohrs like that. You dont win town cred for defending a player clearly not in any danger, and you arent protecting anyone as youre not changing the lead at all. Strikes me as maybe the action of a slightly more inexperienced player. Probably not scum.
Blargonaut switches votes again. Inclined to think just Blarg.
Natiko notes in 1309 that Swamped and I shouldnt be so certain. This is true. Little secret: Im never actually that certain, but fuck public displays of uncertainty, because they create fog for mafia to hide. Nevertheless, I think this is significant. Suppose again Natiko hadnt died. This comes across as a protection of Swamped fmpov, like his earlier vote to move squidyj ahead. If Natiko had lived, and I was going back, Id be thinking hey, Swamped is probably scum. But Natiko got killed. So maybe Swamped is not scum, and I should step back a little. Natikos main contribution at this point is to defend both me and Swamped. Thats his contribution to end day. By taking out Natiko, scum are saying to at least some extent theyre worried by Natikos contributions and this I think is his most significant.
Kalor protects me in 1317. Again, fmpov I am not scum. So Kalor isnt protecting scum. He votes Swamped, bringing Swamped back into focus somewhat, rather than squidy. Squiddy flipped town, so Kalor isnt protecting scum there. Kalor could think Im likely to be lynched and want to build some town cred. Semi-plausible, but Im a tough fucker and not as easy to lynch as first appearances. Its not necessarily a safe bet. Alternatively, Swamped is scum, and Kalor thinks Swamped wont get lynched today and can build some credit later if Swamped flips as scum and Kalor can wave that vote around. If so, again, thats a risky game. Swamped could take off here. Kalors a good player, Im not ruling it out entirely, but theres risk to either assuming Ill get lynched and assuming Swamped doesnt, and not a risk that most players would take on early lightly.
Kawl votes squidyj. This is a critical vote because this is the vote that really begins to push squidyj ahead of me. Again, squidy is town, fmpov I am town, and the only real other contender is Swamped. Is Kawl protecting Swamped? Plausible, I think, coming directly after Kalors vote. I have this bookmarked as something to watch. In 1322, as well, Kawl fos Bronx, but doesnt vote for Bronx? Why? Bronx was definitely still a possible wagon at this point, sitting level with Swamped a vote behind me and two votes behind squidyj. It is possible to worry about ties, but 20 minutes from deadline is a long time. Why fos someone you then dont pursue? I dont like this at all, and I definitely am watching Kawl more closely now, especially how Kawl acts towards other strong players like Sorian.
Verelios votes Kalor. So, squidyj is clearly taking off. At this point, scum can start relaxing in terms of trying to protect other scum as town have the lead, and instead they want to look for ways to not be on the town wagon. Picking a randomer for a plausible but not super-strongly argued reason is like scum end-day 101. Splinter calls Verelios out on this, which is right and didnt strike me as a w/w observation because normally it would sort of force Verelios to respond and could land Verelios in hot water more than w/w attacks are normally willing to do.
Swamped has a complete and total non-defense at 1330. Im really struggling with my read of Swamped, because my night-kill and vote analysis doesnt seem to point to Swamped scum, but Swampeds play smells scummy she can be a lot better than this, her game has been very weak.
Stanley goes squidyj. This is basically squidyj cemented, 3 votes clear now. Again, not a great time for scum to get on squidyj. Still think this is less experienced player caught up in things.
Sorian in 1337 wants to go after Bronx or Faddy. Bit late for that. Town cred attempt? Unsure. I feel like town Sorian would have pushed much harder for Swamped to be lynched given a true preference of Swamped > Squidy > Crab pushed in 1337. My read on Sorian remains consistent from earlier; probably town but not engaging with the game perhaps as much as normal. Definitely cracks of doubt, though. Sorian then switches to me in 1346. Why? His last preference listed squidy ahead of me. Something changed Sorians mind, but no explanation? He wants to force a tie to see who breaks what way. Okay, I guess. Then goes back to squidyj at the end to avoid ending on a tie. Town normally dont want to force a tie. Usually, you have preference one way or the other. Its rare that the information you could get from someone ending the tie one way or the other is more useful than having a town player lynched rather than a scum player. But again, if Sorian is taking this only 50% seriously, it isnt a play he would rule out.
Who was absent/less present than they should have been?
Burbeting, Lone_Prodigy, franconp, nin1000, TheWorthyEdge, Kyanrute, WhereAreMahDragonz, acohrs, OceanicAir, gryvan. Bronx-Man was not absent so much as tunnelled incredibly heavily and was very active but didnt change vote through-out this whole turmoil.
Oceanic and gryvan are being replaced, so well forgive them that quietness. Why was everyone else quiet at such a critical point? Or content to stick with prior chances despite so much useful information flying around? Im not sure.
So, where am I at? Im somewhat more doubtful of Swamped. Very much sitting on the fence now. Im reasonably confident Blarg is town. I am null on Splinter with maybe a very slight break to town. I am strongly leaning towards Faddy as scum. I am more confident Kalor is town. I have no strong opinion on Kawl. I am growing more confident Verelios is scum. I still think Bronx is probably scum. Sorian fence-sitting still. If he is town, I want him to really step up his game. If his play continues as it is at the moment, I feel I will be pushed towards a scumread.
Sorian argues for Bronx over Swamped. So, what are our possibilities if Sorian is scum? Swamped is scum, Sorian is protecting. Swamped is not scum, Sorian suspects Swamped will get lynched, and Sorian wants to be on the good side. So: at that point in time, I simply dont think Swamped looked ready to take off. Swamped had a vote from me, and I was busy being the Ivan Lendl of the thread, and vote from CCS, who not many listen too very seriously. It seems implausible to me that Swamped was necessarily going to take off. Could Sorian be protecting? Possible. If so, I think Sorian might have swung against me. On the other side, I looked like the most likely candidate, so Sorian could have been doing the dual role of trying to steer away from Swamped while also building credibility by backing me for when I flipped town.
Blargonaut switches from Faddy to squidyj. This is interesting because this is where squidyj really kicks off, and marks the very start of the proper wagon against him. Again, though: not at all obvious at this point who is going where. Blarg could have voted squidy to be outside of the main points of contention, or to protect Faddy, who was tied as a vote-leader. I dont think there was a need to protect Faddy. All of the players who had seriously mentioned Faddy by this point were already on Faddys wagon. To be outside of the main contention? Blarg has never been worried by that. I dont see scum Blarg here.
Splinter foses Faddy in 1294. I find this moderately suspect. If he had put a vote down, Faddy would have gone back up to 3 votes, been a tied vote-leader, and had clear momentum. But instead, Splinter remains detached, and his current vote on squidyj. This could be a lukewarm avoidance again. But Splinter has been on squidyj a very long time, could just be unwillingness to leave a tunnelled vote. Benefit of the doubt here.
Faddy votes squidyj in 1296 in response to being called out by Splinter. Faddy has shown no real interest in squidyj prior to this point. Faddy offers no explanation for voting squiddyj. This definitely seems scummy to me. Its the first vote to put squidyj into the lead, ahead of myself and Bronx. Obviously fmpov he cant be protecting me. So why squidyj, rather than bronx-man, who Faddy fosd in 455? This is very unclear to me. The only reason I can see is that last time he tried bronx-man, he got called out by franconp and got very flustered. I dont think this is a protection of Bronx by going squiddyj so much as a very safe vote from someone who needed to find a safe place to put a vote.
Blarg shifts from squidyj to Swamped. Clearly not protecting squidyj, as we know. Could just be thinking Swamped wont really get lynched after all, but that pulls Swamped onto 3 and causes a fourway tie for top tied candidate with Swamped obviously having the momentum. Pretty dangerous if Swamped actually was scum. Again, Blargs dynamics here dont match scum to me.
Natiko votes squidyj. Interesting, because here we have a confirmed example of town/town interaction leading to town lynch a reminder that pushing for the lynch of someone who flips town doesnt make you scum in and of itself. However, to test my theory, suppose we didnt know Natikos alignment because someone else had died. Natikos vote is on acohrs. Acohrs is clearly not taking off. Natiko switching to squidy isnt hiding away, squidy is now the favourite for lynch. Natiko could be protecting amongst Swamped / bronx / squidyj. We know not squidyj. I think if Natiko not died, I would have been moderately suspicious. This is important and I want to come back to it later.
Stanley votes acohrs. Acohrs is clearly not taking off, especially as Natiko just left acohrs with a solitary vote. This is actually Stanleys first vote all day right before the deadline. Pretty unusual. If I were scum, I wouldnt be dodging off to acohrs like that. You dont win town cred for defending a player clearly not in any danger, and you arent protecting anyone as youre not changing the lead at all. Strikes me as maybe the action of a slightly more inexperienced player. Probably not scum.
Blargonaut switches votes again. Inclined to think just Blarg.
Natiko notes in 1309 that Swamped and I shouldnt be so certain. This is true. Little secret: Im never actually that certain, but fuck public displays of uncertainty, because they create fog for mafia to hide. Nevertheless, I think this is significant. Suppose again Natiko hadnt died. This comes across as a protection of Swamped fmpov, like his earlier vote to move squidyj ahead. If Natiko had lived, and I was going back, Id be thinking hey, Swamped is probably scum. But Natiko got killed. So maybe Swamped is not scum, and I should step back a little. Natikos main contribution at this point is to defend both me and Swamped. Thats his contribution to end day. By taking out Natiko, scum are saying to at least some extent theyre worried by Natikos contributions and this I think is his most significant.
Kalor protects me in 1317. Again, fmpov I am not scum. So Kalor isnt protecting scum. He votes Swamped, bringing Swamped back into focus somewhat, rather than squidy. Squiddy flipped town, so Kalor isnt protecting scum there. Kalor could think Im likely to be lynched and want to build some town cred. Semi-plausible, but Im a tough fucker and not as easy to lynch as first appearances. Its not necessarily a safe bet. Alternatively, Swamped is scum, and Kalor thinks Swamped wont get lynched today and can build some credit later if Swamped flips as scum and Kalor can wave that vote around. If so, again, thats a risky game. Swamped could take off here. Kalors a good player, Im not ruling it out entirely, but theres risk to either assuming Ill get lynched and assuming Swamped doesnt, and not a risk that most players would take on early lightly.
Kawl votes squidyj. This is a critical vote because this is the vote that really begins to push squidyj ahead of me. Again, squidy is town, fmpov I am town, and the only real other contender is Swamped. Is Kawl protecting Swamped? Plausible, I think, coming directly after Kalors vote. I have this bookmarked as something to watch. In 1322, as well, Kawl fos Bronx, but doesnt vote for Bronx? Why? Bronx was definitely still a possible wagon at this point, sitting level with Swamped a vote behind me and two votes behind squidyj. It is possible to worry about ties, but 20 minutes from deadline is a long time. Why fos someone you then dont pursue? I dont like this at all, and I definitely am watching Kawl more closely now, especially how Kawl acts towards other strong players like Sorian.
Verelios votes Kalor. So, squidyj is clearly taking off. At this point, scum can start relaxing in terms of trying to protect other scum as town have the lead, and instead they want to look for ways to not be on the town wagon. Picking a randomer for a plausible but not super-strongly argued reason is like scum end-day 101. Splinter calls Verelios out on this, which is right and didnt strike me as a w/w observation because normally it would sort of force Verelios to respond and could land Verelios in hot water more than w/w attacks are normally willing to do.
Swamped has a complete and total non-defense at 1330. Im really struggling with my read of Swamped, because my night-kill and vote analysis doesnt seem to point to Swamped scum, but Swampeds play smells scummy she can be a lot better than this, her game has been very weak.
Stanley goes squidyj. This is basically squidyj cemented, 3 votes clear now. Again, not a great time for scum to get on squidyj. Still think this is less experienced player caught up in things.
Sorian in 1337 wants to go after Bronx or Faddy. Bit late for that. Town cred attempt? Unsure. I feel like town Sorian would have pushed much harder for Swamped to be lynched given a true preference of Swamped > Squidy > Crab pushed in 1337. My read on Sorian remains consistent from earlier; probably town but not engaging with the game perhaps as much as normal. Definitely cracks of doubt, though. Sorian then switches to me in 1346. Why? His last preference listed squidy ahead of me. Something changed Sorians mind, but no explanation? He wants to force a tie to see who breaks what way. Okay, I guess. Then goes back to squidyj at the end to avoid ending on a tie. Town normally dont want to force a tie. Usually, you have preference one way or the other. Its rare that the information you could get from someone ending the tie one way or the other is more useful than having a town player lynched rather than a scum player. But again, if Sorian is taking this only 50% seriously, it isnt a play he would rule out.
Who was absent/less present than they should have been?
Burbeting, Lone_Prodigy, franconp, nin1000, TheWorthyEdge, Kyanrute, WhereAreMahDragonz, acohrs, OceanicAir, gryvan. Bronx-Man was not absent so much as tunnelled incredibly heavily and was very active but didnt change vote through-out this whole turmoil.
Oceanic and gryvan are being replaced, so well forgive them that quietness. Why was everyone else quiet at such a critical point? Or content to stick with prior chances despite so much useful information flying around? Im not sure.
So, where am I at? Im somewhat more doubtful of Swamped. Very much sitting on the fence now. Im reasonably confident Blarg is town. I am null on Splinter with maybe a very slight break to town. I am strongly leaning towards Faddy as scum. I am more confident Kalor is town. I have no strong opinion on Kawl. I am growing more confident Verelios is scum. I still think Bronx is probably scum. Sorian fence-sitting still. If he is town, I want him to really step up his game. If his play continues as it is at the moment, I feel I will be pushed towards a scumread.
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VOTE: Faddy
I saw that coming. In your wall of text there is a whole lot of misinformation particularly as it relates to mine and Natiko's votes.
I specifically ask if if he wants to join *splinter on the squidyj wagon
For those who didn't play. In DR3 day 1 me and Natiko openly colluded to join up with *splinter and put votes on Terra. It did not turn out well...
When it looked clear it was coming down to you and squidyj I was sure Natiko would move his vote to squidy if I moved mine since he already ruled out lynching you.
Regarding Bronx still being a plausible lynch when I changed my vote, I think there's some bias in hindsight going on there. My recollection of the series of events was that people had moved off Bronx with an additional 3 or so stating out right that they would not be voting for him. In my mind at the time Bronx was an unlikely lynch, and I don't believe in leaving a vote on a target day one for no reason when you have actual meaningful competing wagons. I voted squidy half as a vote for some one who wasn't crab and half as a vote for squid as his behavior was reminiscient of his scum play in mini just before this.
I think town!crab puts forth more unique thoughts and work than town!squid, so along with the red flag of the similarity from mini it was an easy choice. I generally didn't have much of a read on swamped either way, and to be honest still struggle to determine one. Plan to ISO her as well tonight.
I think town!crab puts forth more unique thoughts and work than town!squid, so along with the red flag of the similarity from mini it was an easy choice. I generally didn't have much of a read on swamped either way, and to be honest still struggle to determine one. Plan to ISO her as well tonight.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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For the record, Crab, the reason I was absent at day end was that I was at work. Does that help you at all?
I had already said earlier that day that I wouldn't be around at day's end:
I had tickets to see Logan at the same time (by the way, really great movie).
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I said necessarily - as in, that it was not very likely to happen. It was still at one point somewhat likely to happen and then later not at all likely to happen, which was the collapse.
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That's fair, I missed that. It's not you I'm concerned about, but for completeness sake I thought I'd check.
You also conveniently start your analysis after CCS's vote moved from you to swamped.
Implausible is a long way away from "not very likely", and you started this analysis from just after swamped picked up a second vote. I don't think there was any point where it was more likely than that?
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No. I explain why I chose to start my analysis where I did quite clearly. Starting from Blargonaut's vote, the field was entirely open. At the point of CCS moving his vote, the field was still mostly centred around me.
All that would happen by analyzing CCS' vote would be: was CCS protecting me? No, I'm town. Was he looking for a safe spot? No, it isn't clear Swamped was safe. Neither strucks me as how scum acts.
Lone_Prodigy
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Was pulled away at day's end.
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I think this is just a reading thing. I'm saying that it was implausible that {Swamped was very likely to take off}. Swamped was somewhat likely to take off, nobody would have said it was a dead cert, and that was what was necessary for that line of argument. I think you're not quite understanding that line.
You could at least have read the thread before jumping in with this desperation post.
gryvan has asked to be replaced, it was in red text and everything
I know, gryvan hasn't been replaced yet though, so no point putting in another name yet to describe that player. Unless you'd rather we forget about Gryvan/replacement (was that better?)? Do you want that Faddy?
OK, if you weren't pulled away yesterday, who would you have voted for? Who did you want lynched at days end and why?
Didn't get around to this, sorry Splinter. I did lean town with Swamped. I put why in my reads list from last day, didn't scum read Squidy and everything everyone put forward for his lynch felt like complete bullshit to cover them lynching an inactive. As for Crab, that was losing steam at the moment by the most vocal players at the time (weird♧
and if I did vote Crab I was afraid it'd start a cluster fuck of vote switching. Contrarily, I probably should've went with my gut and done it. Of the three, yes I'd vote Crab because he's the only one I scum read yesterday, but I also didn't enjoy people who were M.I.A. coming around and sniping close to deadline.TheWorthyEdge
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Curious as to why you think I'm one of the 5. My question is, do we know it's 5 for sure? Because then everybody with a list of 5 people would be suspicious to me.
Nope. I'll look back and see if I find anything else that spikes my interest but right now I'll stick with you.
So you're saying Crab poisoned you?
StanleyPalmtree
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Lone_Prodigy
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Didn't feel too strongly about the vote leaders and would've voted to break a tie.
You know, thinking about it, Bronx did have a few votes on him near the end of D1 and one or two more could've swung it in his direction. Yet he never claimed, but minor pressure at the start of today and suddenly he's all too willing to divulge.
It's like in scum chat he'd be asking whether to claim, and his teammates would've told him to not say anything because they could swing a wagon away from him. "But definitely do something at the start of D2 because that would be expected Bronx behaviour!" they'd add.
YesNOnoNOYes
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DAY 2 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Crab (4)
Bronx-Man 1452
Swamped 1454
nin1000 1467 1597
Faddy 1519
CCS 1520
Swamped (2)
Sorian 1431
Lone_Prodigy 1624
Lone_Prodigy (1)
acohrs 1482
StanleyPalmtree (1)
TheWorthyEdge 1703
Faddy (1)
Crab 1718
Bronx-Man (1)
Sorian 1372 1431
Crab 1490 1675
WhereAreMahDragonz 1536
Kalor (0):Burbeting 1384 1399
No active vote for Day 2: *Splinter, Blargonaut, Burbeting (has previously voted), franconp, gryvan, Kalor, Kawl_USC, Kyanrute, nin1000 (has previously voted), StanleyPalmtree, Verelios, flatearthpandas
Day 2 ends:
Automated vote tally here
12 votes for majority
Crab (4)
Bronx-Man 1452
Swamped 1454
Faddy 1519
CCS 1520
Swamped (2)
Sorian 1431
Lone_Prodigy 1624
Lone_Prodigy (1)
acohrs 1482
StanleyPalmtree (1)
TheWorthyEdge 1703
Faddy (1)
Crab 1718
Bronx-Man (1)
WhereAreMahDragonz 1536
Kalor (0):
No active vote for Day 2: *Splinter, Blargonaut, Burbeting (has previously voted), franconp, gryvan, Kalor, Kawl_USC, Kyanrute, nin1000 (has previously voted), StanleyPalmtree, Verelios, flatearthpandas
Day 2 ends:
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12 votes for majority
It's not that deep, fam
flatearthpandas
Member
Checking in again. Grossly underestimated the time it would take to catch up. I'm getting there but am pretty busy today. Will definitely be 100% caught up and shitposting tomorrow
unless that stopped
Blargonaut
Banned
We never started
Blargonaut
Banned
Outstanding post, Crab
a tour de force
a tour de force
college friend in town.
drinks more longer than expected.
read over swamped. her posts generally read over like a whole bunch of nothing, the crab push I don't see any leg work behind it. seems to be content to just piggy back off the 'read' she established day 1 with little evidence here in day 2 to let the fact that she had stated it before be the entirety of her argument.
not buying it.
Vote: Swamped
drinks more longer than expected.
read over swamped. her posts generally read over like a whole bunch of nothing, the crab push I don't see any leg work behind it. seems to be content to just piggy back off the 'read' she established day 1 with little evidence here in day 2 to let the fact that she had stated it before be the entirety of her argument.
not buying it.
Vote: Swamped
Blargonaut
Banned
I'd say 50-50 even
Blargonaut
Banned
VOTE: Swamped
Save yourself, Crab
Save yourself, Crab
Do we know 5 is the magic number? No. Is it likely 5? Yes, that's the correct percentage.
To be fair, this is basically my vote on Swamped too. I didn't like her yesterday and have no reason to like her today so I'm with it. It's mostly gut mixed with I think day end was weird yesterday so someone is scum between Swamped and Crab.
Blargonaut
Banned
So, uh, this lull means that they must be Town, amirite
The contented play out
Bronx, what do you think about this Crab v. Swamped vote situation
The contented play out
Bronx, what do you think about this Crab v. Swamped vote situation
I would love to hear some more from swamped, since she was also a lynch train but somehow she did not really participate today in any discussion. Several people are now getting putting votes on her ( fair point btw ).
For me it seemed as if scum steered the train away from her in the last hours of the past day phase. Town caught up on it and are now putting some heat on her.
For me it seemed as if scum steered the train away from her in the last hours of the past day phase. Town caught up on it and are now putting some heat on her.
Trying to make it through Sorian's posts before heading to work this morning...
that was optimistic.
But I have a few thoughts from the super early game.
Any one have any opinions on this theory as we've moved on from the beginning?
TWE ends up with the only person who's vote is on Bronx day end. There was a small window there were it looked like Bronx might get lynched, but was that just TWE being locked into an earlier vote with no way to get out without being suspicious?
Looking at the votes today, TWE is alone on Stanley, distancing himself from scum mate!Bronx on the Crab train?
Splinter, you said shortly after the quoted post above that you were down to try out the theory. What changed between then and the end of the day for you to have not voted Bronx at any point?