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'Galactic Federation' of Aliens Are in Contact With US and Israeli Governments, Claims Former Official
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Compsiox
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Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready
This "Galactic Federation" has supposedly been in contact with Israel and the US for years, but are keeping themselves a secret to prevent hysteria until humanity is ready.
www.jpost.com
Darkmakaimura
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This was already posted in the Politics forum and the Aliens/UFO thread.
Oh yeah also posted in Politics is the Chinese trying to create super soldiers because 2020 just cannot get any weirder than to be a real life Marvel movie or whatever.
cryptoadam
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Heres video evidence
borborygmus
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As if aliens would want to talk to us and not immediately blast us into oblivion.
This is obviously another excuse to be like "quick, abolish all borders and get a United Earth government going."
This is obviously another excuse to be like "quick, abolish all borders and get a United Earth government going."
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OmegaSupreme
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I fucking hope so
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Let's be honest, what we really want to know is how sweet is that Alien pussy?
Goro Majima
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#Phonepunk#
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Why would Aliens want to destroy us? Like almost all Hollywood movies, you're projecting human behaviour onto Alien civilization.
Would a united Earth be so bad?
Stiflers Mom
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Yog-Sototh is the gate!
Dacon
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A lot of former government officials make declarations like this in the old age for some reason. Perhaps to try and stay relevant? I want to believe but the pragmatic side of me says it's bunk.
Depends on the nature of that union.
Depends on the nature of that union.
mcz117chief
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Made by people who want to make it happen now? Yes.
Generally speaking it is a good thing but not if it is headed by bankers or career politicians.
INC
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Or religious nuts
It would alter every single aspect of life on the planet, if true
borborygmus
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Almost 100% of nonhuman life forms we've encountered would kill us without even thinking about it if they could. Even humans mass murder each other every day, and many groups do it to other groups routinely. If chickens were 20 feet tall they'd gobble us like worms. Most of the few exceptions are species we domesticated or are too weak to do anything to us and we find them "cute" when they peck us.
You're projecting civilization onto aliens because you watched Star Trek. Real life is a lot more like National Geographic or Animal Planet.
There isn't gonna be a UN-like roundtable with Octopus-face bro and Genderless Plant Blob to talk about "the issues."
There's no possibility for a united Earth since we can't get even our shit together to run a single locality in a single nation well enough to last, and we all have different cultures and that's part of our nature. The advocates of a united Earth almost exclusively consist of the most corrupt people on the planet, who stand to gain a lot of power by abolishing borders (because they're so corrupt they've now outgrown the nations they came from), and the complete idiots who fall for their words.
Society itself is a social construct and there's no reason to expect other life forms to share any values with us whatsoever, let alone for them to even have values.
Everything at every scale that we've ever observed basically kills and eats whatever it has access to. This is happening all over your body right now, and everywhere on Earth.
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mcz117chief
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Depends on what your definition of "religious nuts" is.
INC
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Any one who is religious basically
mcz117chief
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Ah gotcha, so basically every person on Earth. Good think most people don't share your bigoted views that every religious person is a "religious nut".
INC
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If aliens landed and said your religion is wrong, and thats not how the universe works at all, would that make aliens bigots?
mcz117chief
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No, it would make for a great conversation and discussion. Do you think nobody ever told me that what I believe is "wrong"? Lol. I don't need aliens to tell me that, there are plenty of douchebags here on Earth. Also, Jesus never talks about "how universe works" only that we love each other as much as he loves us.
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carlosrox
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Well there's people who believe in the COVID narrative so why not this?
Already have fucktards treating everyone around them like lepers, wearing masks 24/7, etc, so why not believe this?
People are willing to believe any ol retarded thing, how is this any worse?
Believing that guy's claims is probably less retarded than this.
Already have fucktards treating everyone around them like lepers, wearing masks 24/7, etc, so why not believe this?
People are willing to believe any ol retarded thing, how is this any worse?
Believing that guy's claims is probably less retarded than this.
INC
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Well if Jesus said it, thats it then...........lol
Shadowplay1979
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mcz117chief
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Yes, that's it.
Yoshi
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If there was contact to alien beings, chances are they wouldn't be capable of ftl travel either. Also, it would take a long ass time to exchange messages.
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I get why people would assume an alien civilization would be hostile. To evolve to a degree of human intelligence or beyond, the lifeform would have had to start on as a predator on their planet. They would also, like humans, have been tribal in existence and competing for food, land resources etc.
This isn't an absolute. I'm only basing on how we evolved and how we're still very tribal (we separate ourselves in groups based on nationality, race, religion etc)
However, I believe that for the alien civilization to advance to a stage where they can travel the galaxy with ease, I would have expected them to get over their basic tribal nature and become a unified species. Whenever we imagine Aliens, most of them we are picturing a unified species, not a species who has divided their planet into 195 different nations, then further divided their race into groups based on different religions and races.
If then the Alien civilization has overcome it's tribal nature, then it would also be possible that they are intact peaceful. Rather than harming humanity and wanting to take our planet/resources, maybe they see themselves as gods and want to help us develop? Maybe they think they can also help us overcome our own tribal nature and unite as one species?
It's also possible that they are war-like and were able to conquer their own planet, thus becoming a unified species by way of war and genocide.
To say they would wipe us out because almost 100% of non Human lifeforms would wipe us out on earth if given the chance is......bizzare.
If I somehow was able to make a cow 15 feet tall, it wouldn't start chewing on Humans.
INC
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Assuming FTL travel is how they travel.....
They could be thousands if not millions of years more advanced than our civilization
If i took a cell phone back a 100 years, they would think its magic
Our concept of space and time, could be completely wrong, due to relativity. Perhaps their tech completely by-passes that?
Fuck knows
borborygmus
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I think you have this impression because of propaganda. Whoever gives up tribalism is a fool, and will lose to those who still have it. Look at Europe if you don't believe me.
There's in fact nothing wrong with tribalism so it's not something one "overcomes" with advancement. I'm not saying we should kill everyone else but we should absolutely compete with each other or at the very least see each other as distinct neighbors, because the second one "tribe" stops being tribal, it gets ripped to shreds by the others.
"United" has positive connotations but it's semantical sleight of hand (not from you, but the authors of the propaganda) to pretend that automatically translates to United Earth being some kind of ideal. "Division" is also now a bad word. "OMG you're so divisive." But these are just semantical games that have no bearing on reality. There is no principle that uniting things is always good and dividing things is always bad.
Any aliens who mastered space travel are very unlikely to have "overcome tribalism" when tribalism confers an overwhelmingly significant survival advantage and had they given it up, they'd have likely been eradicated long ago by a group that didn't give it up. If anyone unites their planet and goes out into space, it'll be the most tribal group of all.
Cows already eat insects and it's debated whether they do it on purpose or not, but either way if they were huge they'd absolutely harm us without even thinking about it. And you're thinking of domesticated cows; wild animals are significantly more aggressive.
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mcz117chief
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Lol no, I know it is a popular opinion to think that people were dumb "before us enlightened boomers came" but really, people understood science back them too believe it or not. Radios were used since the 1900 and quickly became a commercial product. That is the same nonsense as saying that if you would show Star Trek to people today they would think it was all magic in there. People have imagination and even someone from 2000 years ago would understand that cellphones aren't magic.
borborygmus
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There's also a symmetry bias here. Just because 2020 tech seems like magic to people from 1920 doesn't mean that tech from 2120 would be seen as magic by 2020 people. I'm pretty sure 2020 people understand that tech might seem magical but isn't.
INC
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Well they fell for some dude saying he's the son of God, by doing some basic street magic.........so.........
Some are still falling for it now
mcz117chief
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I'm pretty sure almost nobody would call any tech magic if it were introduced to them properly. Of course if a guy in a black robe approached me at night and told me "this is a magical item, it fires bolts of lightning" then it is something different that if a person tells me what a piece of tech really is.
Leyasu
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I don’t believe that for one minute.
They would have no need to kill us or take our resources. Their civilization would already have the everything they needed.
They would I am sure want to keep an eye on us though.
Tschumi
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Why's that?
mcz117chief
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Curiosity. Ever watched Star Trek? The federation has observation pods and ground teams on almost all planets in the Alpha quadrant that support life.
Tschumi
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Well, as far as I can observe, Star Trek has little to do with potential beings on the moon, let alone unknowable distances across the stars...
Mm, my point is that applying humanistic traits to these things is.. a red herring?
I believe there's life out there - anyone who watched Cosmos or its ilk, read any number of books, and has watched evidence emerge that almost every star seems to have planets around it would be forced to accept that there's something* - but, my relationship with most of the pro-this OP posters on this thread ends the moment they try to copy paste any facet of the human experience to these beings. Intergalactic alliances being only the beginning. There's just zero compelling reason to think that they even exist in the way we appreciate existence, let alone embody all of our pop culture, or otherwise, traits..
Innuendo has no place in science, imo.
Sorry i kinda picked on your post a bit..
* Just not something like William Shatner
mcz117chief
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I wouldn't even be surprised if aliens looked and acted like us. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't. Not saying they can't be different, just that I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the were.
Tschumi
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That's fair of you to think~
mcz117chief
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Guys with the biggest stick rule the yard, bro.
Unknown Quantity
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If they're not in our Galaxy then they have to match its speed, get through the ionosphere, have shielding to protect against Solar winds.
Creatures at that level I can't even comprehend. Get some perspective, the level they would be at is something unfathomable to me. We need to look up & out. We are less than ants to those creatures.