Gallup: RNC convention resulted in loss of support instead of gain. First time ever.

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Gallup only started recording before and after shots in 1984 though.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/438612/donald-trump-republican-convention-was-failure

Gallup’s numbers are truly stunning. American political conventions have been a guaranteed boost to candidates’ public image. Gallup has measured an increased willingness to vote for a party’s candidate ranging from Mitt Romney’s modest two-point bump in 2012 to Bill Clinton’s massive 45-point rocket in 1992. No candidate has ever come out of a convention with the public less likely to vote for him. Until now.

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However Hillary was shown to be rather polarising. Her Don't Know pile was small with the difference made up by No votes.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/194084/americans-positive-democratic-gop-convention.aspx

Since 1984, an average of 45% of Americans have said they are more likely to vote for a party's presidential candidate after the party's convention; thus, the Democratic Party's 2016 convention is right at the historical norm. At the same time, the 41% of Americans who say they are less likely to vote for Clinton after the party's convention is among the highest Gallup has measured, while the 14% who said the convention made no difference in their vote or who had no opinion is historically low.
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“This is not going to be your typical party convention like years past,” said Trump spokesman Jason Miller. “Donald Trump is better suited than just about any candidate in memory to put together a program that’s outside of Washington and can appeal directly to the American people.”

lol
 
You mean to tell me that when that one "celebrity" said Hillary wants to become President for herself and Trump wants to become President for all of us, America didn't believe him? I'm absolutely shocked. Shocked!
 
I don't know how anybody could have watched the RNC and have liked it. Was a collection of nobodies, weirdo has beens and shitty speeches, all seasoned with ignorance, fear and racism.

Honestly the only speech I remember even a little bit was Melania's... Which about somes it all up



The DNC was packed with amazing moments.
 
The entire convention was about scaring the shit out of people and jailing HRC. Because nothing says we can rise above party politics like wanting to jail your biggest political opponents.
 
foxuzamaki said:
Didn't it gain a ton of support afterwards? It only went down after DNC
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That's even worse imo. The country had a chance to compare the two and were legitimately afraid to see the vision put forward at the RNC convention end up being the one that wins out this November.
 
Slayven said:
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I... I can't shake the feeling that this entire election cycle is some huge prank being played on me. It's like that episode of It's Always Sunny when the gang made Dee think that she was a successful comedian. When is everyone going to come pouring out of my closet laughing hysterically at me for believing Trump is really the Republican candidate?
 
Well, Hillary's DNC was a united front of showing the multiculturalism of the United States with different groups advocating their caused and hoping for something greater. They overnight became the party of patriotism that supported their war veterans. The RNC was the exact opposite - hate, fear. That kind of platform never sells.
 
What's interesting were the the amount of "celebrities" they had. Like why? Surely you they could have either gotten more relevant people or at least good speakers like the DNC did.

Also wonder what Trump will have to say about this. He'll probably just bring up how the RNC got better ratings while also disregarding the idea that many tuned in just to see how much of a shitshow it would be (and it was).
 
A Human Becoming said:
I don't know much about Gary Johnson, but isn't he considered pretty reasonable (for a libertarian)?
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The problem lies in the Parenthesis. Others aren't as reasonable and have pretty unrealistic stances of how to govern a country.

They should start at at bottom. If their particular ideology works in practice then it is worth paying attention to them.
 
Or, as the "unbiased polls" say, Trump is in a slight lead.

https://www.longroom.com/polls/

Seriously, this shit is hilarious.
It's literally people subtracting away from any poll that favours Hillary. Because it's gotta be bias. Can't possibly be that the polls are simply in her favour right?
 
A Human Becoming said:
I don't know much about Gary Johnson, but isn't he considered pretty reasonable (for a libertarian)?
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Well to be fair, Johnson's competition for the Libertarian candidacy included a guy named Vermin Supreme, and a guy wanted for questioning in several South American murders.
 
Volimar said:
I don't know how you could watch the democratic convention and not want to vote for Hillary more.
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Because Hillary is extremely disliked.

Put it this way: if Obama was running against Trump he'd probably have a 30 point lead already. But there are people who so mistrust Hillary that they'll consider a d-bag like Trump just to keep her out of office.

Conversely, if the GOP wasn't such a trumpster fire right now, if they'd run someone like Romney or anyone even partially moderate against Hillary, they'd probably win. But they doubled down on stupid and will now not only face at least 4 years of Hillary but also a progressive Supreme Court. Of course, there's also the possibility that they'll somehow delay SC appointments for 4 years. They're already ignoring the POTUS.
 
Mass Effect said:
What's interesting were the the amount of "celebrities" they had. Like why? Surely you they could have either gotten more relevant people or at least good speakers like the DNC did.

Also wonder what Trump will have to say about this. He'll probably just bring up how the RNC got better ratings while also disregarding the idea that many tuned in just to see how much of a shitshow it would be (and it was).
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No they couldn't. Trump has alienated every Republican with a brain that can afford not to endorse him. As a result, the RNC had the 5 Republicans that are celebrities.
 
Who would've thought that 4 days of the "Hate & Bigotry" dog and pony show would've lead to a loss in support?
 
Why did Bill shoot from 15 to 60 in '92? Like, why was he even that low to begin with, and how'd he go so high only to fall to "average" after the DNC the next year?
 
A Human Becoming said:
I don't know much about Gary Johnson, but isn't he considered pretty reasonable (for a libertarian)?
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He is trying to angle the Libertarian Party as being fiscally conservative but socially liberal.. But it is a bit disingenuous considering how he still would dismantle and deregulate the private sector of almost all protections for minorities, women and Lgbtq people. and end all social programs that help the poor.

Ending the drug war is a good cause but it won't exactly help at all considering all the other horrible things that would happen to minorities as a result of his "the federal government doesn't have the authority to tell corporations what to do" policy.
 
I'm telling you Dana White didn't yell loudly enough. As soon as he started with that little-boy yelling at the beginning of his speech I knew this convention was in trouble.
 
Doominated said:
Why did Bill shoot from 15 to 60 in '92? Like, why was he even that low to begin with, and how'd he go so high only to fall to "average" after the DNC the next year?
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Sex scandal even before he was President. Reason why he was "the comeback kid" for finishing second in New Hampshire was because of the Gennifer Flowers accusations that she had a 12 year affair with him, and stuff about him being a draft dodger came out. So people thought he was done as this news started to drop, but he pulled through it.
 
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But it is a bit disingenuous considering how he still would dismantle and deregulate the private sector of almost all protections for minorities, women and Lgbtq people. and end all social programs that help the poor.
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No, the statist scumbag is for that stuff. That's why he got booed at multiple debates and the convention.

Doominated said:
Why did Bill shoot from 15 to 60 in '92? Like, why was he even that low to begin with, and how'd he go so high only to fall to "average" after the DNC the next year?
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Ross Perot dropped out right before the Democratic convention, leading even President Bush at ~40% in the polls.

sphagnum said:
Benji's guy will always and forever be Jim Gilmore.
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Well, I am still offering to be his running mate in 2020.
 
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