Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

I'm surprised they fired her so fast lol. 😂

Weren't people in here saying others from SP were liking her tweet or whatever? Or was it just the director?
 
I knew there would be repercussions and rightfully so but I don't think the whole studio should be boycotted because of one stupid person.

Personally, if Sucker Punch makes an statement apologizing and separating themselves from that psycho, I will buy the game then. Maybe not at launch but down the line. Its the only way they can win me back
 
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But they already heard the voices and fired the dev. Boycotting is still your prerogative but just saying in case you didn't notice the update
Knowing that this is the mindset of someone involved with making the game is a monumental turn-off. I don't care that a game developer has an opinion that I might not agree with. The world is full of people who will disagree with you on everything from politics to pizza toppings.

I have a tremendous issue with celebrating and normalizing violence. Maybe I'll revisit my stance on this game at some point, but it certainly won't be within a timeframe that will make any difference to Sony. Most games what matters is the upfront sales and engagement. If I play it 5 years from now on PS+, as far as Sony will be concerned I never really played it at all, and I'm fine with that.
 
I buy every Sony first party title outside of sports and MP only games as I am a mainline PS gamer.

I will not be purchasing Ghost Of Yotei.

I could care less about sociopolitical disagreements but celebrating the murder of other human beings is demonic behavior and I refuse to reward it. There are lots of people I disagree with in life. Some of them with every fiber of my being. I do not wish them dead or physically harmed. Open dialogues and discussions and the exchange and debate of ideas is how people learn, grow, and evolve. Silencing voices through intimidation, fear, cancellation, violence, and outright murder set us back further and further as a race every time it happens and strengthen the strain, devolving us further and further into an Us vs. Them mentality and normalizing violence as free speech.


My boycott of this game will have no noticeable effect. But it takes millions of grains of sand to form a beach. The only relevant way to make our voices heard to massive corporations is to vote with our wallets.

So you gonna be selling your PS5?

SuckerPunch is a Playstaion Studios err studio after all.
 
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I'm surprised they fired her so fast lol. 😂

Weren't people in here saying others from SP were liking her tweet or whatever? Or was it just the director?
Pendulum swung back hard and fast. Companies doing 180s fast and furious. And the new Sony CEO isnt afraid to gas studios for poor performance. So no surprise when someone gets out of line, managers get the jist of the CEO's low tolerance for stupidity. So any trouble makers will get the boot too. No need for any possibility to feel the wrath of the CEO. Just solve the issue asap before he gets involved.

Like the Cracker Barrel debacle. Not only did they do a u-turn all within a week, but they even went the extra mile. I dont think anyone even knew about it, but their site had a link to LBQT support. They decided in their reversals to even scrap that entire page.

According to the first Bluesky tweets, other people from Sucker Punch, Bungie and some other studios all Liked her post. So it wasnt an isolated incident though it was technically her message. Other people saw and liked it. And also, someone posted somewhere a Bungie guy had a post in poor taste too.
 
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I knew there would be repercussions and rightfully so but I don't think the whole studio should be boycotted because of one stupid person.
Supposedly other Sucker Punch devs 'liked' her tweeet,
Also if you watch Asmongolds video, some other devs from elsewhere posted horrid tweets, and a few of them funnily enough were former Sucker Punch devs.

It seems it may run deep in that company.
 
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So you gonna be selling your PS5?

SuckerPunch is a Playstaion Studios err studio after all.
I don't see any reason to do that. My selling my PS5 isn't going to make any impact to either Sucker Punch or Sony. They have already received their revenue for the hardware and software. It's not like selling my PS5 somehow takes it out of their hands.

I'll just be a lot more judicious in what I buy, and at what price point.
 
Well… apparently it wasn't just twitter that noticed uwu

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No surprise. The Western development industry is full of hateful mentally deranged radical left cunts.

Fixed.

It's really a Western issue, that's why when it comes to games, I'm a bit more wary of Western games because they have a tendency to insert political stuff which I don't really follow.
 
Supposedly other Sucker Punch devs 'liked' her tweeet,
Also if you watch Asmongolds video, some other devs from elsewhere posted horrid tweets, and a few of them funnily enough were former Sucker Punch devs.

It seems it may run deep in that company.
You'll have conflicting opinions and ideologies from one person to the next and some are extreme like this bint who got sacked, but I feel something that requires hundreds sometimes thousands of people to create should not be put to the side because of a vocal minority.

I'm sure most who work there are level headed compassionate people who wouldn't dream of celebrating a murder of any fundamentally good person, even if they don't agree with everything he said.
 
I agree, but it would be wise for Sucker Punch to put out a statement.
They will, like all corporations do. The statement that they will eventually put out officially is probably going through several Peer Reviews at the moment before they make it public.

Could this have been handled better? Probably
 
What's also going to be interesting in the next few weeks is how much it continues on.

The SP girl seems to have gotten fired and adjusted her profile to exclude all GoY and employer data. BUT, in a blaze of glory still claimed she'd do it again 100x if she could.

So even though she doesnt even work at the company anymore, she doesnt seem like the type of person to chill, delete her accounts or if Bluesky has a private mode do that. She's the combative type. So the more she eggs it on, the more SP and GoY gets blowback as people following this issue will link up she's the anti-right hating SP employee who liked Kirk getting shot and killed.

And GoY doesnt even launch for 3 more weeks. So plenty of time for more pre-launch antics.
 
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Even though what's been said is wrong and extremely distasteful to put it lightly, I feel we should be careful not to incite a witch hunt.
We shouldn't affect someone's life nor livelihood like that. Just saying.
All in all I agree, I think people should keep work and life more separate not to trash your company's reputation if you say stupid shit, but I agree cancel culture is bad.

Which is why when people started resorting to mob justice and harassing employers and advertisers, etc… some of us were deeply against it. It normalises a behaviour and tactics. People on the left and centre left are seeing the woke right using tactics the left proved they work in today's society. So round of applause for that I guess:
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Def passing on Ghost now.

I'm at a loss for words when I'm scrolling on social. Like I'm 40 and just feel so much soul ache for an America I grew up in but do not recognize. It breaks my worldview of who I thought we were.

I put my two little boys down to sleep tonight and for the first time in years I felt hopelessness for the world they will come to live in rather than hopeful.
 
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Not exactly surprising to see Sony Studios feature so prominently here is it.
I think you will find American and some EU studios there, I would paint it more to confirmation bias (people already look in that direction and will find things they are looking for) than anything but you are free to believe otherwise ;).
 
Def passing on Ghost now. I'm at a loss for words when I'm scrolling on social now. Like I'm 40 and just feel so much soul ache for an America I grew up in but do not recognize now. It breaks my worldview of who I thought we were.

I put my two little boys down to sleep tonight and for the first time in years I felt hopelessness for the world they will come to live in rather than hopeful.
You can thank the USSR for infiltrating the colleges in the 1960s for this. Demoralization.
 
Why would it make any difference? The fact that she felt comfortable posting stuff like that is a strong indication that the studio is ideologically captured. I'd wait for trustworthy people to play it and report back. Not as if there is any rush to play it.
I'll be playing it Day 1. There will no doubt be freaks on the team but I guarantee you there are normal people aswell.
 
They will, like all corporations do. The statement that they will eventually put out officially is probably going through several Peer Reviews at the moment before they make it public.

Could this have been handled better? Probably
late friday afternoon news drop.
 
"You shouldn't be fired just for having an opinion!" they all scream without any hint of irony.
Of course you should, that's like saying to your boss "you are a stupid ass donkey that doesn't know shit" should not have consequences, even thought that is very often the case.
 
Just so I understand the psyche of this thread correctly...

One batshit crazy leftist at Suckerpunch celebrating the death of a political public figure = never buy a SP game again/no Yotei

Right-wing, supremacist anti-LGBTs inciting violence on protected groups = it's a bit silly to boycott a game they had little involvement on

Which is it?

Anyway, I hope they catch the guy that did it + fire all those who've been celebrating this.

Nobody wins here.
 
I don't see any reason to do that. My selling my PS5 isn't going to make any impact to either Sucker Punch or Sony. They have already received their revenue for the hardware and software. It's not like selling my PS5 somehow takes it out of their hands.

I'll just be a lot more judicious in what I buy, and at what price point.

Hmm makes sense.
So boycotting buying software from PlayStation Studios?

They still gonna be getting that revenue from your software purchases from other studios though.

Boycotting first party studios is hard, and it seems to be multiple PlayStation Studios members who are "siding" with the Sucker Punch dev.....obviously cuz they are all kinda friends.
Even any backlash they(the dev) receives they will probably just be moved internally to another PlayStation Studio, simply getting rid of senior devs isnt a good idea unless you have a good replacement handy, so better just to move them to another studio.
 
So it took them a single day to fire em.

That's a fast turn over in any business. I would expect a statement soon, guess they weren't that important to the studio after all.
 
I agree, but it would be wise for Sucker Punch to put out a statement.
They most likely will, this sort of thing must go through legal first and probably the higher ups at Sony, like I said to people yesterday when there was no sacking, be patient, Sony are not a small company and they have to make sure everything is legal and above board before sacking someone or making statements Although, sacking the individual is already a strong statement in itself.

I do think its a shame though that these actions have caused some to do the whole console war thing under the guise of justice.
 
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Righteous fury mode Asmongold is a joy to watch. Knowing the industry has been squirming like kids waiting for dad to come home and find out they borrowed the car without permission and drove it into a ditch makes it even better.
 
I think you will find American and some EU studios there, I would paint it more to confirmation bias (people already look in that direction and will find things they are looking for) than anything but you are free to believe otherwise ;).
Maybe - but pretty easy to draw a connection between this thread and why so many American games' stories suck now.
 
Just so I understand the psyche of this thread correctly...

One batshit crazy leftist at Suckerpunch celebrating the death of a political public figure = never buy a SP game again/no Yotei

Right-wing, supremacist anti-LGBTs inciting violence on protected groups = it's a bit silly to boycott a game they had little involvement on

Which is it?

Anyway, I hope they catch the guy that did it + fire all those who've been celebrating this.

Nobody wins here.
When has Rowling ever invited violence or celebrated the death of trans people? What a pathetic comparison. If someone from Sucker Punch posted that they didn't agree with his views due to XYZ reasons absolutely nobody would want them fired.
 
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Have you looked at this thread?









I mean... i didn't even bother going all the way down page 1.
This is just silly, just as silly as the Left when they wanted to cancel the Hogwarts game. 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

For clarity. I had no intention of Buying Ghosts of Yotei... I just think this reaction to punish game studios for opinions of random employees is silly.
How the fuck is deciding to not buy the game and cursing these cunt devs the same as asking to cancel the game?

Have you seen any gaffer going down the streets with a megaphone and flyers advocating the for the game to be cancelled?

Dude english is not my native language and i still know the difference...
 
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If the company doesn't make a statement and hold the employees accountable for their divisive words, then its safe to say the entire company is complicit and can be painted with the same brush.
Holding them accountable yes, but you don't have to make a statement. Companies making statement to appease any group, whether it be right or left leaning is one of the most dumb things you can do. The reason being the mob will never be happy and demand more and more.
 
They should move all their development back to Japan. We would get better games.
Except that that has never, ever been the case. They already owned Psygnosis like half a year before the PS1 even launched in Japan.
Btw, I can assure that people here or everywhere don't give a fuck about the vast majority of SIEJ games. I must be the only person here aware that something like TVDJ exists.
 
Just so I understand the psyche of this thread correctly...

One batshit crazy leftist at Suckerpunch celebrating the death of a political public figure = never buy a SP game again/no Yotei

Right-wing, supremacist anti-LGBTs inciting violence on protected groups = it's a bit silly to boycott a game they had little involvement on

Which is it?

Anyway, I hope they catch the guy that did it + fire all those who've been celebrating this.

Nobody wins here.
Would help if you told us who and what you were talking about, or are these just made up scenarios in your head?
 
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