Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement

It is dumb no matter who do such a thing. And do you understand that the new law is not to be applied retroactively?

There is no law. There isn't even a designation in place for any domestic group in the US to be called "terrorist". So Antifa actually hasn't been designated terrorist at all. It's just political nonsense
 
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Why are they filtering messages through gaming outlets? Is it a dog-whistle to their base or something? Just release a statement.
There are some legal limitations employer can disclose about fired people, and why it was done, they can confirm the matter of fact that the employee is not working there anymore, but usually not much more.
There are some different rules on doing with a PR message targeting individual employees, than confirming something to a journalist.
 
The men and women of the 40s went through war and hell and forged our future through grit and determination, now they are gone, today, people raised on the internet and luxury without the common sense to work together, are falling back into the far-left and the far-right columns, without good strong people to lead us.
The WW2 generation collectively would be considered ultra ultra ultra far right with how the scale is used today. Antifa would call the vast majority of them 'nazis'.
 
I'm interested to see how long Sony is going to put up with a rogue studio that's tarnishing their brand and adding to the list of vulnerabilities that major investors are keeping track of. Meeting internal sales projections might be a matter of survival for SP, because they're only holding Sony back now if they're not bringing in a huge profit.
 
There is no law. There isn't even a designation in place for any domestic group in the US to be called "terrorist". So Antifa actually hasn't been designated terrorist at all. It's just political nonsense
Sshhh… why are you spoiling the fun like this? Didn't you enjoy the carnival of stupid?
 
Sshhh… why are you spoiling the fun like this? Didn't you enjoy the carnival of stupid?
Dr House Oops GIF
 
I'm interested to see how long Sony is going to put up with a rogue studio that's tarnishing their brand and adding to the list of vulnerabilities that major investors are keeping track of. Meeting internal sales projections might be a matter of survival for SP, because they're only holding Sony back now if they're not bringing in a huge profit.
I'm more interested in seeing how long Sony Japan (the heads) are willing to put up with the radical West Sony.

Sony Japan are out there censoring like the most tepid stuff being super conservative, i'm suprise SIE is allowed to keep acting the way they do.

When the money starts to go though we'll see change, ignoring GoY is only a net positive on gaming.
 
China has not committed any terrorist attack in the West in the last hundred years, unlike brainwashed fanatics that live among us and openly declare to want us dead. You are lecturing people on prejudices and come up with this extravaganza.

In fact, this political discourse in China would be shot down immediately, so we are in no position to claim any moral high ground, considering the rot that we have allowed into our society.
All I was saying is that we, as individuals, choose what we get offended by, what we boycott and what we turn a blind eye to (even if we know it's wrong), that is all, I wasn't really comparing the two other than pointing out we do turn a blind I to things when it suits or affects us. In this case I am personally happy enough with the response from both the firing of the dev and the recent comments by Sucker Punch that I am quite happy to buy Sony's and Sucker Punch's games.
 
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There isn't any sub level terrorism laws at the federal level but they all fall under the same terrorism laws.

But at the state level 32 states have written their own specific domestic terrorism laws.

Great. How do these laws make every company this VA worked for terrorist?
 
I'm more interested in seeing how long Sony Japan (the heads) are willing to put up with the radical West Sony.

Sony Japan are out there censoring like the most tepid stuff being super conservative, i'm suprise SIE is allowed to keep acting the way they do.

When the money starts to go though we'll see change, ignoring GoY is only a net positive on gaming.


They seem pretty much unaware of what is going on. Probably SIE tells them lot of lies. As long as the numbers are fine, they will ignore it. The same happens in other companies like Square Enix or Capcom, hiring crazy activists as VA or implementing DEI policies. The western interlocutors surely tell them those are marvelous things that will make their revenue go up thanks to the famous modern audiences. For those outside our bubble all that is happening in our society must be hard to believe, more so when the media tells a completely different story.
 
See, it wasn't too hard.

edit: apparently its pretty hard since it took you damn long and hide it in a game article.
And if the site wasnt able to get hold of him and ask, the SP cofounder would had never made a statement.

It's like a kid who spills milk. The kid says nothing hoping it blows over unless a parent asks what happened.
 
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What the fuck is Antifa? And why is she working for Antifa & Sucker Punch at the same time.

Non of this American bullshit makes sense lmao

Erika Ishii is not working for Antifa ;)

Erika Ishii is part of a Terrorist Group known as Antifa ;)

Erika Ishii is a Voice Actor for Ghost of Yotei and therefore works for Sucker Punch.
 
Erika Ishii is not working for Antifa ;)

Erika Ishii is part of a Terrorist Group known as Antifa ;)

Erika Ishii is a Voice Actor for Ghost of Yotei and therefore works for Sucker Punch.

She is not employed by Sucker Punch. She worked on the game just like she has numerous others for other companies.
 
I'm more interested in seeing how long Sony Japan (the heads) are willing to put up with the radical West Sony.

Sony Japan are out there censoring like the most tepid stuff being super conservative, i'm suprise SIE is allowed to keep acting the way they do.

When the money starts to go though we'll see change, ignoring GoY is only a net positive on gaming.
'radical' 😂😂😂
 
They seem pretty much unaware of what is going on. Probably SIE tells them lot of lies. As long as the numbers are fine, they will ignore it. The same happens in other companies like Square Enix or Capcom, hiring crazy activists as VA or implementing DEI policies. The western interlocutors surely tell them those are marvelous things that will make their revenue go up thanks to the famous modern audiences. For those outside our bubble all that is happening in our society must be hard to believe, more so when the media tells a completely different story.
Well they most likely just see money go up, and that's all they care about, but that will maybe change, i mean i literally tonight had a friend in my Discord tell me they aren't buying GoY because of what the dev said and this is the most out-of-touch CoD bro gamer you can imagine. Like he is my finger on the normie gamer pulse usually.

'radical' 😂😂😂
revelling and enjoying someones murder and death is pretty radical... i'm sorry if you dont see it that way.
 
People refused to buy games like God of War: Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2, and Silent Hill because SBI was involved..

Those boycotts really hurt the same /s

Only a few out of millions pay attention to the online drama.
This is factually incorrect; the SBI only gained prominence after SM2 was released.

both GOW:R and SM2s release wasn't affected by that because it wasn't public knowledge then.

In fact, SM2 is when they started gaining notoriety, after it was released.

Looks like I missed the Sony PR.

and a few braincells
 
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I'm not the one arguing that the comments of a fired employee are representative of the stance of a large corporation, though? 🤔

Are we really going to pretend only one person in all of Sonys Western division thought this?

I mean that one tweet you referring to literally had another SP employee as well as bungie employees liking it.
 
Some other devs from SP liked it.
Are we really going to pretend only one person in all of Sonys Western division thought this?

I mean that one tweet you referring to literally had another SP employee as well as bungie employees liking it.
There was one SP employee and --- some --- Bungie people, maybe? Not sure how that could change anything of my point, though.
The logic is inherently retarded.
 
This is factually incorrect; the SBI only gained prominence after SM2 was released.

both GOW:R nor SM2s release was affected by that because it wasn't public knowledge then.

In fact, SM2 is when they started gaining notoriety, after it was released.
Not to mention, if SBI-associated games are that successful, why did SBI scrub its client list from its webpage and why has SBI been super quiet when its alleged success is something to be widely touted?
 
There was one SP employee and --- some --- Bungie people, maybe? Not sure how that could change anything of my point, though.
The logic is inherently retarded.
So as long as you cover your ears, close your eyes and go "LALALALALALA" then everyone else is retarded.

do you take everything in life at face value?
 
So as long as you cover your ears, close your eyes and go "LALALALALALA" then everyone else is retarded.

do you take everything in life at face value?
No, I analyzed the situation you yourself provided and still determined that the logic at play was retarded, because again:
I'm not the one arguing that the comments of a fired employee are representative of the stance of a large corporation, though? 🤔
Sony being a 'radical' company, a terrorist organization. You guys are genuinely turning senile.
 
People refused to buy games like God of War: Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2, and Silent Hill because SBI was involved..

Those boycotts really hurt the same /s

Unless they correct course, the financial effect will be reflected with the next entries (It happened to the Star Wars sequel trilogy and the most recent movies from the MCU)

Something definitely feels off about the overall aftertaste of Ragnarok and SM2; both games have noticeably less buzz

In relation to SH2, for a game that is considered (and truly is) a masterpiece and has remained a constant presence in the gaming video essay scene, one would think its financial success (in copies sold) would have skyrocketed by the time the remake was released; it should have been comparable to your average "Sony Cinematic AAA game" between 5–7 million copies sold...closer to 10M ideally. The drama of the uglification and consultancy companies involved was just another aspect of an already bad PR and lackluster marketing.

Only a few out of millions pay attention to the online drama.
Couldn't the same be said about PR and marketing? Given that we're basically addicted to our smartphones, any drama will be noticed by the target demographics
 
No, I analyzed the situation you yourself provided and still determined that the logic at play was retarded, because again:

Sony being a 'radical' company, a terrorist organization. You guys are genuinely turning senile.
you said terrorist, not me, radical and terrorist are two different words that mean two different things. Might wanna analyse that yourself some day.

lol we went from, oh it's only one, to oh it's only like 5 or 6 within literally 1 message.

Can you point to the plethora of examples of Sony devs speaking out against the murder and those revelling in it?
 
There was one SP employee and --- some --- Bungie people, maybe? Not sure how that could change anything of my point, though.
The logic is inherently retarded.

It's pretty fucking obvious what their agenda is, probably a lot of people in that studio agreed to what that fired dev have said.

That statement they released is also weak as fuck.
 
Am I supposed to buy my games based on the political views of the devs? Left side this, right side that. All equally moronic.
That's what they want. And as far as I know, there isn't really an organization, inclusive "Nazi" movement within these companies. Remember that they wanted to cancel The Wizard Game (even when it had a trans character), smear Wukon and Stellar blade. In other words, these people, corrupted devs and media are the ones pushing for consumers to buy only one type of game.
 
you said terrorist, not me, radical and terrorist are two different words that mean two different things. Might wanna analyse that yourself some day.
The 'terrorist' part was not about you. Someone said it earlier in the thread, and I referenced it. Never said that you said it.
lol we went from, oh it's only one, to oh it's only like 5 or 6 within literally 1 message.
Don't you literally see how four or five employees from two subsidiaries (one that wasn't even owned by them just three years ago) can't remotely be an accurate representation of the position of their large parent company that has over 15K employees across the entire organization?
Can you point to the plethora of examples of Sony devs speaking out against the murder and those revelling in it?
I could not even point to these singular examples if it weren't for people digging deep on social media, come on now. Call me when Hideaki Nishino (CEO of SIE, someone that can actually represent the stance of the corporation) says anything about the topic as a whole.
It's pretty fucking obvious what their agenda is, probably a lot of people in that studio agreed to what that fired dev have said.

That statement they released is also weak as fuck.
It's pretty appropriate for the situation as it is. You're just playing with what ifs at this point.
 
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I could not even point to these singular examples if it weren't for people digging deep on social media. Come on now. Call me when Hideaki Nishino (CEO of SIE, someone who can actually represent the stance of the corporation) says anything about the topic as a whole.

I mean im still waiting for these analytics?

I thought you'd have some proof that everyone is "retarded".

right now, we have a Western branch of a Japanese company that has hired and fired one singular employee for being radical; meanwhile, many liked that tweet. We got a soft apology much later, which barely even says they don't condone the behaviou,r and no mention of it at all by SIE.

we also have 0 other Sony Heads or PR saying that they don't condone the behaviour. Meanwhile, those employees who may have only been there for 3 years are still employed and being paid for their beliefs...

This is completely barring the fact that all their games lately have been infiltrated with the same radical ideologies that the dev who was fired shared, but because you decided in your own headcanon it's not true, then I guess that just has to be the case.

Just because you think something doesn't mean it's true my man and doesn't give you any right to call anyone retarded, either put forward the goods or just disagree like a normal person.
 
I don't base my game purchase on political views, ideologies. Game is good, I buy it? How is that hard to understand?
ok....

But the post you quoted isn't about politics, it's about not wanting to support developers who cheer on and agree with murder and assassinations...

So again is that a political view for you? or do we all agree murder and assassination is bad and shouldn't be celebrated
 
ok....

But the post you quoted isn't about politics, it's about not wanting to support developers who cheer on and agree with murder and assassinations...

So again is that a political view for you? or do we all agree murder and assassination is bad and shouldn't be celebrated
"Someone created a Steam curator listing devs who said good or bad things about Charlie Kirk's death"

I was referring to this? ☝️ No, I don't celebrate murder.
 
I mean im still waiting for these analytics?

I thought you'd have some proof that everyone is "retarded".

right now, we have a Western branch of a Japanese company that has hired and fired one singular employee for being radical; meanwhile, many liked that tweet. We got a soft apology much later, which barely even says they don't condone the behaviou,r and no mention of it at all by SIE.
Analytics? Seriously?
I did, read post #4,444. And again, 'many' is a BIG overstatement. You're still not able to explain how this is, in anyway, relevant within the stance of the parent company.
Sucker Punch issued a statement in which they condemned the comments by the fired employee, not sure what exactly are you expecting? Some kind of official PR by SIE? As stupid as the comment was, you surely realize that this is a huge reach, right?
we also have 0 other Sony Heads or PR saying that they don't condone the behaviour.
Read above.
Meanwhile, those employees who may have only been there for 3 years are still employed and being paid for their beliefs...
They're not being paid for their beliefs, they're being paid for their work. What an odd way to frame it.
This is completely barring the fact that all their games lately have been infiltrated with the same radical ideologies that the dev who was fired shared, but because you decided in your own headcanon it's not true, then I guess that just has to be the case.
Radical commentary about committing murder over public figures being okay on Sucker Punch games is a new one to me. Are you sure I'm the one playing with headcanons here?
Just because you think something doesn't mean it's true my man and doesn't give you any right to call anyone retarded, either put forward the goods or just disagree like a normal person.
Good general forum advice, I guess?
 
This is factually incorrect; the SBI only gained prominence after SM2 was released.

both GOW:R and SM2s release wasn't affected by that because it wasn't public knowledge then.

In fact, SM2 is when they started gaining notoriety, after it was released.

No, I'm correct.

Sweet Baby Inc. gained "prominence" (as you say) during the first quarter of 2024, but people pointed out their involvement at the end of 2023 for Spider-Man 2, as you can see here.


Spider-Man 2 was the 19th best-selling game of the year AND the 12th best-selling game on the PlayStation platform of 2024.

Sales have remained strong throughout the game's lifecycle. The sales would've dropped ass as soon as their involvement was announced, but that never happened.

Spider-Man 2
Circana

December - 5th
January - 10th
February - 13th
March - 19th
April - 20th
June - 13th
July - 10th
August - 9th
September -
October
November - 14th
December - 13th

There was also drama before people knew the SBI's involvement due to MJ's design and her missions.

Not only that, but Spider-Man 2 was ranked 20th for the best-selling for the first 5 months of this year.

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