SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Don't want to get into this again but Viserion's flight pattern wasn't diverging when the NK went for him. Whether Jon went on Drogon or not didn't determine Viserion's death.
Jon was stupid, but Viserion wasn't his fault.
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Don't want to get into this again but Viserion's flight pattern wasn't diverging when the NK went for him. Whether Jon went on Drogon or not didn't determine Viserion's death.
Jon was stupid, but Viserion wasn't his fault.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Yea shit was weird that he decided not get on the dragon, because we needed him to set up a dragon being killed.
Would have been more effective if Viserion just being shot down, everyone pauses to look in horror, and viserion crashes near Jon, knocking him into the water.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The talentless writer responsible for the most idiotic moment in 7 years doesn't know himself, I'd bet.
Oh I see, there is actual people out there that cheers this kind of garbage.
Krauser Kat
Member
Fucks sakes people.
Arya said in this episode she trained in telling people when they are lying by the faceless man. She has seen through all this shit.
She knows sansa's true intentions but she did need to interrogate her first.
Arya said in this episode she trained in telling people when they are lying by the faceless man. She has seen through all this shit.
She knows sansa's true intentions but she did need to interrogate her first.
BlackGhost
Banned
They need to remedy this Arya vs Sansa stuff asap, personally not liking it at all
Chinbo37
Member
Again it seems like they just gave up on any semblance of distance in Wsteros.
So they walked like a day or like a week to get to the white walkers? And if a day ok they seem pretty close to the wall. Even if a day the raven they sent takes like what half a day to get to danerys?
So they walked like a day or like a week to get to the white walkers? And if a day ok they seem pretty close to the wall. Even if a day the raven they sent takes like what half a day to get to danerys?
Why is it always the exact same people in these reaction videos? In the same places and everything.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Are we watching the same show? Arya wouldn't kill her because she's her sister. And unlike half the major houses in Westeros, they don't turn petty shit into straight up family murder. There's never been any indication of this before until this episode. Arya killing Sansa is the dumb equivalent of the Mentalist Red Jon re-reveal or Walk Dead finale "cliffhanger".
This has to be some sort of ploy, and if it is does LF know that they're trying to play him etc etc etc..
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
What? They straight up showed him fighting off wights while everyone was on board, they were straight up calling for him, by the time everyone was ready to board was literally the same moment that the Night King shot Viserion down.
I wouldn't put it past Arya to kill family considering everything she's been through. Like we're talking someone who straight up relishes cold blooded murder at this point.
I'm not sure that's true.
He promised Cersei he'd take Winterfell (using the Knights of the Vale), just after he'd given Sansa to Ramsay...and he'd expect to be named Warden of the North for doing so.
He'll pull that move if it suits him.
Orochinagis
Member
Sue them Blizzard, sue them!!!
The episode was awesome but it fell into tropes and cliches I forgot I was watching GoT.
John wanted that free Exp.
The episode was awesome but it fell into tropes and cliches I forgot I was watching GoT.
John wanted that free Exp.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Just watched episode 6, WTF did I just watch?
Why didn't Daenerys fly over the wall with the dragon to see the white walkers for herself?
She can get there in what seem like mere hours anyways so what's the point in sending these people to an absurd suicide mission that will take them days or weeks about stealing some dead man from an army of dead people who for some reason had a separate group of zombies wandering around that for some reason had ONE zombie not controlled by the leader of the group?
My god. Just trash. The nosedive is so real by now.
It would have been enough to take two or three horses packed with some raven cages and provisions with them (like when the Night Watch goes beyond the Wall the first time) and we would've way more options for the frozen lake scene. But instead we got just leazy writing with plot armors and ridiculous time travling or time warping or whatever that was.
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SurrenderDorothy
Banned
This is the most polarising episode, lmao.
The Guy In Red
Neo Member
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i wonder if that scene would've worked better had they not telegraphed it for over half an hour. send Gendry to the wall. Have Gendry send a Raven. Show Dany leave with her Dragons. I mean imagine the reaction if the crowd didnt know it was coming and they all legit thought Jon and the Avengers were gonners.
They could've probably done away with gendry running to the wall like an idiot, and have Bran follow the avengers by warging into a crow. Then send a raven. And leave it at that. Dont tell us who he sent the raven to, and certainly dont show Dany leaving. Or even better, dont show Bran, just have Jon ask her how she knew to come and have her say 'Bran'.
I am no writer but that cant be worse than having Gendry run back for a day then have a raven travel 2000 miles and then have Dany change into winter gear and travel back 2000 miles to rescue Jon.
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
Yes, me. The Hardhome guy looked perfect. Awful change. Worse than Darihio Naharis.
Dumb & Dumber
Grinchy
Banned
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
He kinda looks like the dean of White Walker University now.
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
Wow his nose is so different. He looks terribad
Seductivpancakes
Member
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
Honestly the older guy looks evil and menacing, this new one looks annoyed he has to deal with the living.
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
Apparently they changed actor. I dont see why they cant just cgi on the old face without the podgy nose.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Please tell me there's one for when the spear goes through.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
If that happened it would just be Deus Ex Machina complaints for months.
Jon asks Tormund, a Wildling, how long it takes a lake to freeze over. Tormund, being an experienced winter traveler, tells Jon they have 3 days at most. Boom, I just established a time frame without breaking character or using GPS or time stamps.
But this isn't really my job. It's the directors' and scriptwriters' jobs to establish the convincing passage of time.
But this isn't really my job. It's the directors' and scriptwriters' jobs to establish the convincing passage of time.
Gandalf said:
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
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Spartancarver
Member
In the GAF version, it's a bunch of people quietly calculating the maximum airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon vs the distance from Dragonstone to the wall and then disappointingly shaking their heads.
Orochinagis
Member
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
His "horns" are made of Ice now. the rest of the white walker looked bored to stay there like "hey, we got sindragosa, meh"
Anyone bothered by how the Night King looks now?
This is him before:
And this is him now:
He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. He looks like my fucking uncle now. I cant watch the show without losing focus whenever the Night King appears.
It's definitely the eyes and mouth. Not dark enough and sunk in.
I wish they had caught my reaction. I was visibly and audibly stunned the second Jon told Gendry to run to Eastwatch, because I knew exactly where this was all going and it was the most horribly stupid thing they could ever put to film.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Nah, he looked convincing.
Don't get the new NK complaints, they're both similar enough for me.
Don't get the new NK complaints, they're both similar enough for me.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Like if people are gonna criticize the episode they could at the very least remember the events. The show never once stopped showing Jon fighting wights until they all reacted to the death of Viserion, hell you can still see them slowly climbing while he does this, we're talking half frozen exhausted dudes trying to climb a dragon with no handholds:
Yes, why wouldn't the leader and last of her name just fly over a wall by herself into dangerous territory to just look at the potentially dangerous enemies she has. Great idea, you deserve to be the writer my man.
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Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Night King was tired of their bullshit. The turned Steve into a snow cone and now they are trying to kidnap his undead dude....
Here you go
That staredown. After Hardhome it's 2:0 Night King. Loved the episode btw. Sure some things didn't make sense, but I'm fine with that.
Six days left until the last episode of this season. Damn
Deaf Spacker
Memb
It seems like the writers know what they want to happen but they have no idea how to get to that point without making it seem like the characters are just chess pieces.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
If it was up to that point, she'd be in Bravos fucking around. She isn't killing a team member for "wanting power". That doesn't make sense. There has to be some play around here. I don't know who thought of it, Bran, Sansa or Arya (probably Sansa?), but this can't be all there is.
because if that's the case, Arya is dying next episode. LF loves Sansa so he wouldn't let her die
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Pretty much, maybe they'll iron things out in S8 because S6 wasn't this mediocre (plot wise).
Once they get the characters in their places before the final war, write some good stuff damnit.
Twilight Princess
Member
#wightlivesmatter
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I like the new Night King, and IMO he'll start to grow on people if the writers do what I expect them to do in season 8 and try to humanize him and reveal his motivations. Maybe even dedicate an entire episode to his backstory.
He may not be truly evil. He didn't choose to be that way, he was made that way. Frankly, I don't blame him for holding a bit of a grudge.
He may not be truly evil. He didn't choose to be that way, he was made that way. Frankly, I don't blame him for holding a bit of a grudge.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Walder Frey's wife also survived though didn't she? Whether they believe the story or not, there is definitely a scene missing here.
I actually think it coulda been fun if the show broke up it's structure in that moment and played with time a little bit.
Like, they send Gendry off. We stay with the heroes. Shit seems hopeless. We stay in that place for a long time. Dragon saves the day. Jon passes out.
Cut to Dany getting word from Tyrion (Gendry gets to the wall off camera) and she they have a scene thick with dramatic irony cuz we know the dragon dies and she takes off.
I'm not exactly sure how you bridge the gap from there but it could work. Maybe you just hard cut to her looking sad on the wall.
Certainly bold, but they have used modern music and flashbacks in bold ways before.