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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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5olid_5nake
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Lol, lucky guess. Thanks!
Shambalakan
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5 years have passed from Season 1 to 6?!! I thought it's about 1 or 2 years! lol
Look at those dragons though.
wesleyshark
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Yep
Shambalakan
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Summer Haze
Banned
I just read on the GoT wiki that dragons never stop growing. :O
They are the two GOAT generals of Westeros and they're getting bodied in this thread smh. I'm salty as fuck.
Can't post a picture since I'm on mobile but Google Balerion, Drogon might be that someday.
Summer Haze
Banned
I don't really get the 'teleport' complaints. We rarely get given information as to how much time is in between two events so why even bother?
It's really no stretch of the imagination to think Ramsay wasn't a "known sadist" around Westeros. Unless Littlefinger literally had an informant very close to Ramsay (would have to be one of his closest soldiers or one of his mistresses) he would have very little information about things like the torture of Theon or the games he would play.
How would the torture of Theon not be known to him when fucking Euron managed to hear about it while being a pirate? Heck Tyrion knew what had happened to Theon even.
Beyond that Ramsay publicly did things like hunt peasants. He doesn't need a spy in the household, between that and his general behavior, guards, soldiers, peasants talk and it spreads. Not intentionally spied for, but the type of thing a powerful spymaster type would have heard eventually.
Beyond that Ramsay publicly did things like hunt peasants. He doesn't need a spy in the household, between that and his general behavior, guards, soldiers, peasants talk and it spreads. Not intentionally spied for, but the type of thing a powerful spymaster type would have heard eventually.
Weird head canon thing but this is how I personally accept the idea the LF claims he didn't know about Ramsay.
In my head he knew what Ramsay was, or at least had an idea. I mean not only is he smart but he has had a hand in everything. Even more so at the end of the day, Petyr is, no joke at all a pimp. The man runs brothels, it's not only his claim to money and work but it's also his base of operation. Unless the bastard of the dread fort was really so off the radar to everyone,LF must have known.
However being a Pimp he also knows most people of means don't shit where they eat, especially the more depraved they are. His clientele is largely nobility who get their freaky shit on they wouldn't do at home.
So there is always the possibility he knew what Ramsay was but from experience didn't think he would do it to his legal wife who is also a Stark which helped in the Bolton claim to the north?
That's the only way I can reconcile him not lying to her while not throwing away that he is the most informed and knowledgable character other than Varys.
In my head he knew what Ramsay was, or at least had an idea. I mean not only is he smart but he has had a hand in everything. Even more so at the end of the day, Petyr is, no joke at all a pimp. The man runs brothels, it's not only his claim to money and work but it's also his base of operation. Unless the bastard of the dread fort was really so off the radar to everyone,LF must have known.
However being a Pimp he also knows most people of means don't shit where they eat, especially the more depraved they are. His clientele is largely nobility who get their freaky shit on they wouldn't do at home.
So there is always the possibility he knew what Ramsay was but from experience didn't think he would do it to his legal wife who is also a Stark which helped in the Bolton claim to the north?
That's the only way I can reconcile him not lying to her while not throwing away that he is the most informed and knowledgable character other than Varys.
JadedWriter
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Didn't the Boltons keep their torture practices very close to their chest? Also didn't they publicly say they wouldn't flay people as well? So I imagine it's easy to believe Little finger didn't know. I don't think people thought it was worth spying on the Boltons.
Tyrion doesn't know.
Huh, you're right, rewatched that scene and for some reason I thought he implied he knew more about what had happened to him.
They don't need to spy. They just need to gossip. There have been more than a few very publicly displayed flayed men throughout the series. So it at least should have been easily known they are doing that.
Is there ANY evidence that she received a reply to her letter?
Tyrion didn't know (as mentioned) and I don't remember exactly what Euron knew but I imagine word would probably have gotten out on the Iron Islands that Theon's privates had been sent inside a box there and Euron would probably have connections there.
Littlefinger isn't really a powerful spymaster, he gets information sure, but his network of spies never seemed as vast as Varys'. Littlefinger is a master manipulator but to imagine he knows everything in this medieval world is far fetched. Varys already pushes the suspension of disbelief by basically having access to the internet.
Ramsay's soldiers would probably be extremely loyal or dead. Who would dare to be close to him and pass information on to others? Not to mention, why would Littlefinger bother planting an informant close to a bastard with no power, in a minor house of Westeros, in an unimportant castle somewhere in the north?
DontBeThatGuy
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The Giant dying is the saddest death of all.
Atomic Odin
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There was an exchange in season 2 between Robb & Roose arguing about whether to flay& torture the lannister soldiers or not.
Robb was obviously against it but there's the point, what makes you think that the Boltons who didn't mind wishing for that MO in front of someone as honorable as Robb would bother keeping it a secret and not do it when they basically have a free reign in the north after his death?
Little finger obviously knew everything about them & their ways. I have no reason to believe otherwise
LegendofDragoonLives
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That deoesn't make her Cat-like who only did dumb shit that hurt her family.
Flaying =! raping/torturing/feeding to dogs.
JadedWriter
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You know Roose wasn't exactly wrong in that exchange.
Pagusas
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I think at that level of evil it no longer matters whos "more evil" you've crossed that line where its just plain evil at the highest level.
Neospartan
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The Boltons are all about flaying people. It's in their sigil and words. Expecting them to stop doing that is like expecting the Ironborn to get off their ships.
JadedWriter
Member
I love how before Ramsay Joffrey was the evil high bar.
Stupid Robb. Why would you trust a man with THAT on his flag?
They must really love flaying people. Wonder how the meeting went where the decided to make that their banner.
JadedWriter
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wesleyshark
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Which is partly what Dany demanded of Yara and her Ironborn last week haha. No more pillaging and pirating and raping. We'll have to see how well that works out for her.
Her meeting with LF to appear together at the top of that hill could possibly suggest that LF let her know when/ where he would arrive, but frankly even if not, and even if not coming at all in fact, telling Jon would have had a good chance of getting the result she was seeking in the first place during their chat at the beginning of the episode: asking him to wait.
Naughty_Doge
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It's Stannis.
Well aye but they Greyjoys have a Kraken on their sigil not a gang of folks raping and pillaging.
Now if Daenarys had asked them to give up their collosal mythical sea creatures that's a different story.
Pagusas
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Hmm.. Yeah honestly I would say Stannis is worse than Ramsey and frankly anyone else in the show. I cant think of much worse than burning your own daughter at the stake so you can up your odds of being king.
I mean whats the point of being king if all your loved ones are dead?
JadedWriter
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Sadly Stannis never asked that question himself. "For the good of the realm shit must be done." After all that shit getting done his personal realm was dead.
Rabbi_Vole
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How did they kill the dragons whose skulls were in the red keep when the mad king reigned?
wesleyshark
Banned
Some of the dragons died simply from old age, others fell in battle.
Karl was pretty bad.
soundscream
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Yeah drinking out of Lord Mormonts skull was pretty despicable.
JadedWriter
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I found that scene hilarious. For some odd reason I forgot all about fookin' Karl.
He's a fookin' legend yo.
soundscream
Member
Fuck em till their dead!
I was a fookin' legend.
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