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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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Ifrit

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The "They said you lost your nose" line gave me a good laugh xD

Yeah that was awesome and funny, I don't read the books but I kinda got that spoiled for me, even though, thankfully, I don't think that's really a spoiler anymore
 
God, I've missed this show. That episode was so good. The Tywin/Tyrion scene was my favorite.

Can someone refresh my memory? When was the fat kid supposed to send the ravens?
 

Pastry

Banned
God, I've missed this show. That episode was so good. The Tywin/Tyrion scene was my favorite.

Can someone refresh my memory? When was the fat kid supposed to send the ravens?

I figured they wanted him to send ravens before they left through the wall to let the rest of the Crows know they were going to check shit out.
 

Funky Papa

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God, I've missed this show. That episode was so good. The Tywin/Tyrion scene was my favorite.

Can someone refresh my memory? When was the fat kid supposed to send the ravens?

My understanding is that he received his orders in the middle of the battle or right after it.

After all he was scooping dry poop before that.
 

Pastry

Banned
My understanding is that he received his orders in the middle of the battle or right after it.

Yeah but he was down gathering crap to burn for fires and wasn't at the top of the mountain with the rest of them so I don't know how he would have gotten those orders.
 

Scuderia

Member
He was supposed to send them in the event of an attack, he should've been beside the ravens at all times, not really sure why he was sent to collect wood.
 

FStop7

Banned
Jorah looked so jelly when Selmy revealed himself. And Dany's expression afterward was... weird. Not great acting on her part.
 

RDreamer

Member
Yeah but he was down gathering crap to burn for fires and wasn't at the top of the mountain with the rest of them so I don't know how he would have gotten those orders.

Maybe it's a general order/duty? If shit goes down, he is supposed to send ravens. Clearly shit went down, so he should have?

I was confused about that, too.
 

Zabojnik

Member
My Season 2 blu-ray box came with a code for the digital copy of Season 2 on HBO Select (www.hboselect.com/gameofthrones). The site doesn't seem to be working for me, I'm guessing it's because I bought the US-version and live abroad. If anyone living overseas wants it, PM me. Also reply here, so people know when it's gone. Kthxbye.
 
It was the first time I ever saw Tywin as a complete piece of shit. Not that his penchant for burning villages to the ground was any less tolerable, but still.

I don't want to think of Tywin as a piece of shit. So far, he has come off as though he's driven by his family name and lineage and he is bound and determined to make is greater. He doesn't have time for pitty or fair play or bullshit, he'll burn you tot he ground because you stood in his way. But yes, last episode he didn't care about any on that. 'Fuck you Tirion, I hate you, I always will and I'd rather die than live you what you have the rights to'

I want to see Tywin skinned like that boar in season 1.
 
I don't want to think of Tywin as a piece of shit. So far, he has come off as though he's driven by his family name and lineage and he is bound and determined to make is greater. He doesn't have time for pitty or fair play or bullshit, he'll burn you tot he ground because you stood in his way. But yes, last episode he didn't care about any on that. 'Fuck you Tirion, I hate you, I always will and I'd rather die than live you what you have the rights to'

I want to see Tywin skinned like that boar in season 1.
Well if he's only concerned with making his family name greater, and society would look down on his name if a "half man" inherits Castly Rock(?) then his attitude towards Tyrion is to be expected. Also, on a personal basis, he really loved his wife and still holds contempt for the child that "killed" her. He probably would've to some extent even if that child had not been deformed.

Those Lannister men are serious lovers I guess.
 

Violet_0

Banned
Tywin is a despicable person, no doubt about it, but he's also really fun to watch so I find it kind of hard to hate him
 

Amir0x

Banned
Looking at it from the perspective of that type of culture and society, though, it does make sense he would not want Tyrion to inherit Casterly Rock, as hierarchical and blood bound as it is, because having a "half-man" be the inheritor of Tywin's most important assets would to the larger world say something about Tywin himself, maybe make him look weak.

And weakness is the true death of people in Westeros.
 

defel

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Surprised so many people like Bron. He's a dick - and not a lovable badass like Tywin or Mormont. I just think he is annoying. Also I get the feeling that Stannis should be way way more badass than he actually is.
 
Well if he's only concerned with making his family name greater, and society would look down on his name if a "half man" inherits Castly Rock(?) then his attitude towards Tyrion is to be expected. Also, on a personal basis, he really loved his wife and still holds contempt for the child that "killed" her. He probably would've to some extent even if that child had not been deformed.

Those Lannister men are serious lovers I guess.

Well, it's obviously not Tyrion's fault she died and I think Tyrion proved he deserves Casterly Rock by kicking so much ass in King's Landing. The other houses will come to respect him in enough time. I think Tywin is being petty which isn't like him. If he hates what his son is so much, then Tywin should cut off his balls as punishment lol.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Surprised so many people like Bron. He's a dick - and not a lovable badass like Tywin or Mormont. I just think he is annoying. Also I get the feeling that Stannis should be way way more badass than he actually is.

Most people who like Bron, besides him being awesome in general, know in their hearts he is cool because they know his deep dark secret
 

Violet_0

Banned
Surprised so many people like Bron. He's a dick - and not a lovable badass like Tywin or Mormont. I just think he is annoying. Also I get the feeling that Stannis should be way way more badass than he actually is.

Stannis is awesome whenever Melisandre isn't around. Unfortunately, I doubt she'll go away anytime soon
 

Klocker

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Surprised so many people like Bron. He's a dick - and not a lovable badass like Tywin or Mormont. I just think he is annoying. Also I get the feeling that Stannis should be way way more badass than he actually is.

yea but I love the way he reluctantly kicks people's asses and how he protects tyrion, even if being paid.

Him standing in for him in the fight for his freedom in the sky castle was bad ass last season, he didn't need to do that.. plus, at least he has a sense of humor :)
 

Kozak

Banned
Update (because let's face it: what is GoT without the cool-wall?):

Whaat!

My opinion is completely different to your opinion.

I actually really like Varys. He's probably the coolest guy on the council. He serves the Realm, one of the only people to. I think a lot of people missed that in all the commotion with Ned having his head off.
 

Irish

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The 'Where were they?' section on the cool wall means they were not in the last episode, so they can't be ranked for the week.
 
But Melisandre is hot as fuck, so it evens out.

That voice. Hnnnnnnngh. Every time she talks.

I want to know more about her and the Lord of Light in general. Between her and the Warlocks, they've been the only ones who have shown any kind of supernatrual aptitude so far.

Mania, GoT and a Raid on Sunday. I'll be busy. I should get some special food.

I actually really like Varys. He's probably the coolest guy on the council. He serves the Realm, one of the only people to. I think a lot of people missed that in all the commotion with Ned having his head off.

I'm with you. Varys is one of my favorite characters.
 
When you guys talk about who you like and who you don't, do you mean you don't want the unlikeable characters on the show? It seems like some of you are rooting for them to die or something. I love watching Joffry in all his cowardice, the cynical resignation of Cercei, and Theon's utter incompetence. I wouldn't have the show any other way. I don't wish ill on any of these characters. I just sit back and watch how they interact.
 

sangreal

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Whaat!

My opinion is completely different to your opinion.

I actually really like Varys. He's probably the coolest guy on the council. He serves the Realm, one of the only people to. I think a lot of people missed that in all the commotion with Ned having his head off.

I love Varys. Then again, I love 90% of the characters. Even Theon Greyjoy. My hate is almost entirely focused on Joffrey, the Queen, and Baelish
 

sangreal

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When you guys talk about who you like and who you don't, do you mean you don't want the unlikeable characters on the show? It seems like some of you are rooting for them to die or something. I love watching Joffry in all his cowardice, the cynical resignation of Cercei, and Theon's utter incompetence. I wouldn't have the show any other way. I don't wish ill on any of these characters. I just sit back and watch how they interact.

I absolutely wish ill on Joffrey and the Queen. Not because I don't want them on the show, I just don't want their characters to be happy on the show
 
When you guys talk about who you like and who you don't, do you mean you don't want the unlikeable characters on the show? It seems like some of you are rooting for them to die or something. I love watching Joffry in all his cowardice, the cynical resignation of Cercei, and Theon's utter incompetence. I wouldn't have the show any other way. I don't wish ill on any of these characters. I just sit back and watch how they interact.

I want to watch Joffery dropped from that door in the Eyrie, and see his impact on the ground below.

I want to watch Cersei melted by wildfire.

Just about every fucking terrible thing that's happening right now is a direct result of Cersei Lannister having sex with her brother. I hates them both. :(
 
I want to watch Joffery dropped from that door in the Eyrie, and see his impact on the ground below.

I want to watch Cersei melted by wildfire.

Just about every fucking terrible thing that's happening right now is a direct result of Cersei Lannister having sex with her brother. I hates them both. :(
OK, that's the part I don't get. You'd like them to die as a viewer? Like you hope the writers write them off? So who would be the antagonists then? Would you like new "bad guys" every season?
I absolutely wish ill on Joffrey and the Queen. Not because I don't want them on the show, I just don't want their characters to be happy on the show
Can you go into more detail? Cercei seems like she hasn't been happy in years. If you mean you want them to be locked up or something, they become just as uninteresting as if they were dead (unless of course being locked up is a device that drives the plot, as in Jamie's case).
 

sangreal

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Rewatching Season 2 again to get my fix. The Arya/Tywin scenes were so masterful. Still don't understand why Bran and co left Winterfell. What happened to the soldiers besieging it? and why the Wall instead of his brother?

OK, that's the part I don't get. You'd like them to die as a viewer? Like you hope the writers write them off? So who would be the antagonists then? Would you like new "bad guys" every season?

Can you go into more detail? Cercei seems like she hasn't been happy in years. If you mean you want them to be locked up or something, they become just as uninteresting as if they were dead (unless of course being locked up is a device that drives the plot, as in Jamie's case).

No, nothing that severe. I just enjoy seeing them on the losing end of the various plots and schemes. Of course on a different level I realize that the show wouldn't work well that way, so I guess you could call it a love/hate relationship. In that I love to hate them, and that is only possible as long as they hold some degree of power

On the other hand, if death is their fate, then I'm sure other characters will move in to replace them. I also loved Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon
 
OK, that's the part I don't get. You'd like them to die as a viewer? Like you hope the writers write them off? So who would be the antagonists then? Would you like new "bad guys" every season?

No, but I don't consider Cersei and Joffery to be the show's big bads, either. They're terrible, but I don't think House Lannister is the end all of the show. There's a bunch of other things going on too. I don't want them written out like that couple in Lost. :x

I'm not saying I want it to happen NOW. But at some point, those two stories are going to come to an end, just like poor Ned's did. I doubt that both of them will be around for the entirety of the show's run. Do you want them to stay alive for the whole thing?
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Yeah, I'm sure that money is not in the Cayman Islands and she actually only has 5 dollars in her account.

She's going through a divorce, she's obviously put her money elsewhere.
 
So Tywin's interaction with Tyrion was very interesting. I started out totally expecting Tywin to come out as the bad guy but I'm not sure that's fair. On the one hand, I feel like he's justified in criticizing Tyrion's whoring and drinking and using that as the reason to deny him Casterly Rock. He's old school, and a king, and he doesn't want the kingdom he's built to be sullied by Tyrion's habits. He obviously believes Tyrion has positive aspects or he wouldn't have sent him to Kings landing in the first place. But when he got there and found out he was bringing whores into the castle it pissed him off. I dont think black water bay undoes Tyrion's life of drinking and whoring.
 

Martian

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The 'Where were they?' section on the cool wall means they were not in the last episode, so they can't be ranked for the week.

Exactly!

Varys is awesome, but it sucks he wasn't in the episode.
Same goes for Arya (probably sub-zero, haven't decided yet)
 

SummitAve

Banned
So Tywin's interaction with Tyrion was very interesting. I started out totally expecting Tywin to come out as the bad guy but I'm not sure that's fair. On the one hand, I feel like he's justified in criticizing Tyrion's whoring and drinking and using that as the reason to deny him Casterly Rock. He's old school, and a king, and he doesn't want the kingdom he's built to be sullied by Tyrion's habits. He obviously believes Tyrion has positive aspects or he wouldn't have sent him to Kings landing in the first place. But when he got there and found out he was bringing whores into the castle it pissed him off. I dont think black water bay undoes Tyrion's life of drinking and whoring.

Wasn't Tywin the one who set Tyrion up with a whore under false pretenses of love?

Edit: just rewatched the scene on youtube, that was Jamie.
 

Jonogunn

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Rewatching Season 2 again to get my fix. The Arya/Tywin scenes were so masterful. Still don't understand why Bran and co left Winterfell. What happened to the soldiers besieging it? and why the Wall instead of his brother?

This confused me too. There were Northmen taking back winter fell no? So why flea?


Also in s03e01 when stark arrived at herrnenhal. Why were all the Northmen dead and there in the first place? I thought that place was run by tywin?
 
This confused me too. There were Northmen taking back winter fell no? So why flea?


Also in s03e01 when stark arrived at herrnenhal. Why were all the Northmen dead and there in the first place? I thought that place was run by tywin?

They were prisoners of war I believe.
 

drizzle

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This confused me too. There were Northmen taking back winter fell no? So why flea?

Theon wanted to stay in Winterfell to show his father that he did good by seizing it. The group of men from Pyke that were under Theon's command said fuck it, knocked Theon unconscious (probably to bring him back to Pyke), torched/looted the city and left, supposedly taking Theon with them.

The Northman that were going to take the city back (that dude's bastard Son army) didn't show up yet. Nobody knows they're coming.

They fleed because the enemies could come back (people don't know what's going on) and they went to the Wall because the Wall is quite near Winterfell, while Rob is near Harrenhall, which is near Kingslanding and hella far com Winterfell. Like, weeks far.

Also in s03e01 when stark arrived at herrnenhal. Why were all the Northmen dead and there in the first place? I thought that place was run by tywin?

Tywin told the mountain to take care of Harrenhall, but I guess once Tywin took Kingslanding back and took his place there as Hand of the King, the Mountain left Harrenhall (it's LittleFinger's propriety anyway) and killed all the prisoners, because what are you going to do with them?
 

Kozak

Banned
So Tywin's interaction with Tyrion was very interesting. I started out totally expecting Tywin to come out as the bad guy but I'm not sure that's fair. On the one hand, I feel like he's justified in criticizing Tyrion's whoring and drinking and using that as the reason to deny him Casterly Rock. He's old school, and a king, and he doesn't want the kingdom he's built to be sullied by Tyrion's habits. He obviously believes Tyrion has positive aspects or he wouldn't have sent him to Kings landing in the first place. But when he got there and found out he was bringing whores into the castle it pissed him off. I dont think black water bay undoes Tyrion's life of drinking and whoring.

All comes down to Tyrions relationship with Cersei really. Tywin would never have known if Cersei hadn't found out about Tyrions whore who Tywin specifically said was to not come to Westeros.
 
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