Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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I thought they implied that Walder Frey could tell she was pregnant when they met at the beginning of the episode. He was being all pervy about her, and how she was covered up with a lot of clothes and he "knew what was going on under there." He's fathered enough children with different women that he could tell she was pregnant.
warged the wrong quote?
Pretty sure Tyrion said he doesn't want to do Sansa at all because she's just a child to him.
Morrigan Stark
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Ahhh, thank you. Yeah I know who Qyburn is. I didn't recognize Karl at all, but now I recognize Qyburn now. It was a bad pic of him, a bit too dark, I would have used this one.
I thought he was talking about her figure though.
Just a few moments before we saw Robb rubbing her belly, and the Frey who stabbed her was right next to them.
ebullientprism
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My favorite line in the whole show.
Oops.. I dun hodor'ed.
Dutch Gronk
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I just watched it.
Damn.
DAAAAAAAMN.
Damn.
DAAAAAAAMN.
"I shuld come freys will like me" got me, lol
Psychoward
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Oh my god, best thing to come out of this ordeal. Beautiful.
Be that as it may, a wrong does not right a wrong, and the deal has been made regardless of how fowl it is. He didn't have any right to do what he did, but Robb's sheer idiocy played the larger role of his death.
I'm still shocked, more so than I've ever been in my life from a TV show. But Robb is responsible for what happened. Walder frey is still an asshole though.
I have to say, I feel very sorry for cat. She really didn't deserve to go like that.
Whose child will be head of House Tully some day.
Psychoward
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Yep, isn't Edmure the prince of House Tully?
I just watched it.
Damn.
DAAAAAAAMN.
Yup, brutal :/
Lives up to the episode 9 reputation that's for sure.
Napoleonthechimp
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This is from the books but it's not really a spoiler:
I believe within the Game of Thrones universe noble houses have some kind of sanctuary oath whereby they're duty bound to keep (noble) guests from harm. Breaking that is highly dishonourable and probably wasn't something Robb expected anyone to do.
I believe within the Game of Thrones universe noble houses have some kind of sanctuary oath whereby they're duty bound to keep (noble) guests from harm. Breaking that is highly dishonourable and probably wasn't something Robb expected anyone to do.
Ninja Scooter
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So is Edmure just expected to sit idly by and take his place after what just happened? Fairly sure he will rage and get himself killed.
for what reason? i would figure he'd like all of this chaos
Napoleonthechimp
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He loved Catelyn.
Liked the red wedding in idea ... Loathed the execution. Much much too " in your face " with people getting their throats cut everywhere, especially at the end, with Walder Frey's wife and then instantly Cat Stark. Pretty ridiculous, useless, and made much less of a impact.
Ned's beheading was perfect. Shocking, graphic but not too much, and unexpected.
This was so graphic that it looked like a gore Z-Movie, thus making look the whole scene ridiculous instead of shocking, even if it was unexpected.
Very disappointed in this ending.
Rest of the episode as very nice though.
Ned's beheading was perfect. Shocking, graphic but not too much, and unexpected.
This was so graphic that it looked like a gore Z-Movie, thus making look the whole scene ridiculous instead of shocking, even if it was unexpected.
Very disappointed in this ending.
Rest of the episode as very nice though.
StopMakingSense
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He loved Catelyn
Ninja Scooter
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if Harranhall goes to Bolton that leaves him out?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Frey isn't Robb's bannerman, though. House Frey's liege lord is House Tully. Which is why Cat was able to broker the deal in the first place.
This is my thought process regarding the entire affair at the moment: After being betrayed, Walder Frey went over to the Lannisters' side and schemed with Tywin in order to get rid of the Starks, who weren't exactly in a great position to win the war anyway. With that being successful, he likely has reign over the north now and was also able to bolster his family's nobility thanks to his daughter being wed into the great house of Tully.
This is gold. :lol
Napoleonthechimp
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Due to their deception and slaughtering of the Starks (one of the oldest Houses in Westeros) House Frey's nobility or standing with the other Houses will likely not increase (in fact it'll probably do the opposite). They are not one of the great noble houses so they'll probably get very little out of it.
The North goes to Sansa/Tyrion, Fey likely got the Riverlands, a better standing with the Lannisters and his personal revenge out of this deal
What if the Frey/Tully house become the rightful rulers of Winterfell supposing that Walder Frey devised the entire Stark massacre with Tywin? I think the Frey's are in a better position now than they were before today's episode.
Yikes, I completely forgot about Sansa! But yeah, my rationalization is that Frey stood to get the most out of his position by killing the Starks.
Chie Satonaka
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Goddamn it.
Stop making me laugh. The Red Wedding was too brutal for these.
Keep them coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOLOSKvkH1Y
This song should have been a massive warning to all of us that none of the Starks were safe. This has got to be the most dark and depressing pieces of music in the series.
This song should have been a massive warning to all of us that none of the Starks were safe. This has got to be the most dark and depressing pieces of music in the series.
Napoleonthechimp
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Which were the others? I think Joffrey was one of them but I can't remember the last name.
I have a feeling Tyrion is going to kill Joffrey at one point. He was more than ready to do so on at his wedding
I've been expecting Joffrey to die since season 1, he just isn't the type to stick around for the endgame. Little Finger is shaping up to be the primary antagonist in the Seven Kingdoms, and he's a much smarter man then Joffrey
Balon Greyjoy, Theon's father
I've been expecting Joffrey to die since season 1, he just isn't the type to stick around for the endgame. Little Finger is shaping up to be the primary antagonist in the Seven Kingdoms, and he's a much smarter man then Joffrey
Balon Greyjoy, Theon's father
The other one was Balon Greyjoy, King of the Iron Islands.
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Psychoward
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I take back what I said about praising the silent credits, this should have played either afterwards or during the massacre.
I know the hot topic is the Red Wedding, but the Jon and Bran scenes were nice too. When he abandoned Ygritte... Her expression was priceless. I'm sure she's pretty pissed off. The hawk's attack was nice too, even though it seemed like bad cgi. Nevertheless, I liked it. I hope it didn't hurt Jon's eyes. And I hope that Oriel died, worst character introduced in thisseason. As for Bran, pretty interesting ability. Imagine controlling something more clever like a normal human. Cool.
SoraanTribal
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Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
Haven't read the books, and just finished watching it myself. I'm kinda in shock still at what just happened.
I knew something was up when the music changed and all that, but... I didn't realize it would be THAT bad. Like wow.
Yup, Balon Grejoy and Joffrey. One can only hope those slugs have enough power to bring down that evil bastard.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Why would Joffrey or Balon want to take down Walder Frey? They'd probably both be ecstatic at what he did.
Or were you referring to Stannis?
Something that has bothered me on further reflection is how Cat killed Walder's wife at the end.
That one moment really brought to the front how spiteful she can be and how much this character flaw brought her down.
She prays to the old gods to kill Jon Snow, because she was spiteful over Jon being the son of another woman.
She double's down then prays for him get better gets her wish but breaks an oath with the gods to make him a Stark because she couldn't get over her grudge that wasn't his fault.
In the beginning of the episode she is discussing strategy with her son and she asks him flat out why and he says he trusts her judgement because she knew better not to trust Balin Greyjoy since Greyjoy has proven himself to be untrustworthy through his rebellion.
So when he asks him her opinion on seeking Walder's help and taking Casterly Rock, her response was "Show them how it feels to lose what they love." This is in spite her more reasoned assessment of the risks of attacking Casterly.
When she held a knife to Walder's wife she had enough of a level head to try to negotiate out of a terrible situation. Once Walder made it clear what his wife's worth to him was and she had nothing to do with what is happening to her son Catlyn still slit elected to slit her throat out of spite.
Everyone dying yesterday is as much her fault as it is is Robb's.
ebullientprism
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Stannis.
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