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Oooh, I sorta remember that. Was it when he won his freedom in the Eyrie?
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Oooh, I sorta remember that. Was it when he won his freedom in the Eyrie?
No, it was definitely in Season 2. I remember now, it was when Cersei is asking Slynt to kick the peasants out of King's Landing. He also whistled it.
Starts right at the beginning of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1RqAwUTCvg
Rentahamster
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On a happier note, I finally received my shirt in the mail
I have the same exact shirt, in fact I have two but with minor text differences! I also have the Targaryan shirt saying: "I will take what is mine with Fire & blood!"
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Manmademan
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Dany is sterile now, iirc.
kellycandthedragons
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I don't know if I believe that she was cursed. I think the lady was just fucking with her head. Maybe she did do something to the child, but Daenerys has been fine other than that. Don't know if this is where I read that speculation or if it was stated in the episode, but I think that's what people believe, right?
indigo-cyclops
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Chie Satonaka
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They're going to the Umbers. I'm pretty sure word of the Red Wedding is probably becoming commonplace knowledge around Westeros between the Lords, or will be when the season resumes. I don't think ANY Northern family is going to be loyal to House Bolton after what he's done. From what I understand, House Stark was beloved all through the North.
That's what I'm guessing too. I wonder where the Karstark's would fall, but I bet they'd also be a safe haven for the likes of Rickon.
Well... considering Robb chopped off their leader's head, I don't think they are too happy with the Starks.
And I'm not sure that they are completely safe. Seeing how Ramsay is the only one other than Theon that knows the two youngest Stark boys are alive, there is a good chance that Roose could start a search for them and an opportunist within the Umbers might just be a candidate.
Chie Satonaka
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While House Karstark left the war effort, they didn't rebel against Robb. He murdered those boys. They were innocent. They might not like it, and in the end, it wasn't beneficial to Robb's cause, but it was the right thing to do by law. It's an issue of treason.
I'm not saying they're in love with House Stark, but I feel like it'd be silly to hold a grudge. Robb is dead, Bolton is a backstabbing traitor. Nobody in the North should swear fealty to him.
Hopefully Bolton, his scummy bastard and his entire house is destroyed. #thenorthremembers
I doubt they like the Starks very much, but I don't think they'd kill a 7-9 year old kid over it*.
*Oh wait, they did kill those little Lannister's.
kellycandthedragons
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House Karstark wanted justice and were angry that ROBB chopped off the guy's head for what they perceived to be justice. They don't hold a grudge against the Starks in general, I thought. Just Robb. It seems like people were mainly against Robb's mistakes, rather than the Starks in general. The fact that they didn't kill Edmure and they let the Blackfish escape without worrying about killing him indicates to me that this was mainly about Robb and the decisions he made, rather than a deep seated grudge against the Starks...well, minus Walder, who obviously held a grudge.
Also, remembering that Bolton's bastard led Theon in a giant circle and trolled him with the horn last season, I'm pretty sure House Trollton really is an accurate name for them.
Also, remembering that Bolton's bastard led Theon in a giant circle and trolled him with the horn last season, I'm pretty sure House Trollton really is an accurate name for them.
Brofist
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shouldnt there be in parentheses - (whats left of them...) after STARK?
Or (too bad we won't live long enough to see it)
They didn't LET Blackfish escape, they wanted to kill him but just failed to. They're not overly concerned about it Bolton and Frey make it clear that that's not what they wanted.
And Edmure is their hostage against the Tullys, they won't kill him.
Chuck Norris
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If I had my way I would have ended the series on the Red Wedding, specifically when the doors were closed and the Rains of Castamere started playing. I'd go with the shot of Catelyn looking up to the band. All the while the Rains of Castamere keeps playing over the credits.
Imagine having to wait a year to see the conclusion of that scene!
You are kidding right? So everybody gets exposed to a completely confusing ending with no real context. Not only is that a terrible ending, but everybody would type in "what does the end of Game of Thrones season 3 mean?" and be exposed to the spoilers
kellycandthedragons
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I said they let him escape without worrying about killing him. Not "they let him run away." They aren't worried about hunting him down and making sure he's dead. Because they aren't, it might mean they didn't plan to kill him. They probably wanted to keep him prisoner just like Edmure.
The Real Abed
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Episode 9 ended perfectly. The music, the deaths, the sadness, then complete silence over the credits. Perfect episode ending if you ask me.
Not to mention the very first scene of the next season would be watching your favorite characters get slaughtered. Not to mention we'd have to watch the entire Red Wedding in the premiere. Including the defiling of Rob's body, which was some truly disturbing shit and given how people reacted to the ep 9, would have been too much. That's not really the best way to get people excited for the beginning of a new season.
Speaking of, I was talking with a friend and he said the finale needed some "big" moment to pull viewers back after the Red Wedding (he alluded to some big scene in the third book, butI haven't read it, so I wouldn't know). I disagreed saying that 1. anyone who was serious about quitting the show probably didn't even watch the finale, and 2. the Red Wedding was a big enough event that the audience didn't need to be thrown for another loop. Whatever big scene it was could have been saved for next year. This doesn't excuse the finale from being kind of dry, but I get the writers' logic.
What do you all think? Did we need another big scene to end the season on, or were smaller scenes that set up the threads for next season enough?
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A More Normal Bird
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Well, the previous finales also did a lot of set-up. This one arguably set up even more/more important plot points than those but it did lack a wham moment for its final scene along the lines of dragons in S1 or army of white walkers and wights in S2. Stannis heading north, Arya and the coin, Theon's sister's rescue plot etc... were all pretty intriguing and well done but Dany crowdsurfing on a sea of grateful slaves doesn't seem to have cut the mustard for a lot of viewers.
I agree with your points about people quitting, but I don't think a big scene at the end would necessarily need to throw viewers for a loop, even with a big twist a hint is more likely to get the imagination/anticipation flowing than shut it down.
Stevie Gerrard
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As with a lot of you guys, I liked the episode apart from the final scene. But I was thinking about it and I realised it's an echo of Robb's ... "mother" at the end of the previous episode.
Still think the Danerys stuff beyond episode 4 was pretty weak, and the way the ending was done was basically a repeat of the end of episode 4. Probably the strongest scene to end it on would have been Arya's scene.
Still think the Danerys stuff beyond episode 4 was pretty weak, and the way the ending was done was basically a repeat of the end of episode 4. Probably the strongest scene to end it on would have been Arya's scene.
The Finale made a lot of sense and the "mother" thing too because the whole episode was all about family. What it means to characters and how family strongly influences characters acting and motivations. It was an episode which made it very clear that ultimately it's family that keeps people together and is actually stronger then any other need. Even Tywin is driven by family and it's the one reason he did not kill Tyrion as a baby as he mentions.
It makes the slaughter of one of the strong families even more powerful an act and more meaningful in the context of the Season Finale. Imo.
It also moved characters into interesting positions for Season 4 and nicely tied some loose ends.
The Dany scene as cheesy and as debatable as it was, fit perfectly into the whole episodes context: Dany is finding family.
It makes the slaughter of one of the strong families even more powerful an act and more meaningful in the context of the Season Finale. Imo.
It also moved characters into interesting positions for Season 4 and nicely tied some loose ends.
The Dany scene as cheesy and as debatable as it was, fit perfectly into the whole episodes context: Dany is finding family.
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NathanMcMahon
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If I had my way I would have ended the series on the Red Wedding, specifically when the doors were closed and the Rains of Castamere started playing. I'd go with the shot of Catelyn looking up to the band. All the while the Rains of Castamere keeps playing over the credits.
Imagine having to wait a year to see the conclusion of that scene!
nope. that's an awful idea.
Hot Coldman
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Great final episode. Seeing Robb paraded around like that was rough, but hey, Arya got her first kill, Sansa seems to be on the verge of getting a bit more real, Bran is on his way to catching the pink elephant or whatever the fuck. The Starks will rise again!
Jaimie's return to King's Landing felt a bit all too convenient, but eh.
lol OK I highly doubt that
Jaimie's return to King's Landing felt a bit all too convenient, but eh.
Harrenhal is pretty close to Kings Landing. Wouldn't have been too long of a ride, maybe couple days.
This thread is the only thing I read regarding GoT. I don't google stuff, I don't read wikis, nothing like that.
Great Poster
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It would be pretty funny after the guy in Harrenhal told Jaime to; 'go buy a golden hand and fuck yourself with it', Jaime actually got a solid gold pimp hand.
Hot Coldman
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Ah, OK. Let down by my ASoIaF geography once more.
kellycandthedragons
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That was such a weirdly specific thing to say and it's such a Lannister thing to do that I have no choice but to believe that it will happen lol
GenocidalMarshmallow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRbV66Q-wo
George R.R. Martin "Spoils" season four.
George R.R. Martin "Spoils" season four.
He doesn't really spoil anything
Well it wasn't her first kill, it was just the first man she killed. She accidentally killed a boy with her sword while running away from the guards in kings landing.
Mama Robotnik
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Ha.
On a completely unrelated note - something just sunk in. After all of Tywin's gentle scenes with Arya in season two - did he know the whole time - throughout all of their little chats - that she and all of the other prisoners at Harrenhal would be slaughtered by his own troops?
Its quite chilling. Maybe its why he was so willing to open up to her, because he was certain she had no future?
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A More Normal Bird
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Using the wall as a reference (300 miles, though Sam said 500 in the last ep), it's around 400 miles as the crow flies. Due to GRRM making his world a bit too big, there's a lot of travel at the speed of plot in this series, though apparently the show is using a slightly more sensible scale (once again, disregarding Sam saying that the wall is 500 miles long).
The best ending scene:
Nothing else matters..
Even though the last scene with Daenerys lacked a bit of punch, I couldn't help but think that as she is raising a new family/power around her, it's also putting her in a more fragile state: would she be willing to surrender (hipotetically) if that means avoiding the slaughtering of all her followers?
Because she likely will have to make some thought choices when times come. Also, if I recall correctly, her vision while staying in the House of Undying implied that the 'Winter war' will reach King's Landing in full force. The throne was empty.
Nothing else matters..
And the contrast of Cersei as mother (a failed one) is difficult to pass as well.
Even though the last scene with Daenerys lacked a bit of punch, I couldn't help but think that as she is raising a new family/power around her, it's also putting her in a more fragile state: would she be willing to surrender (hipotetically) if that means avoiding the slaughtering of all her followers?
Because she likely will have to make some thought choices when times come. Also, if I recall correctly, her vision while staying in the House of Undying implied that the 'Winter war' will reach King's Landing in full force. The throne was empty.
I've been thinking.
The only person who is completely honest is Varys. We might not know his intentions yet, but he has been the only one not to act odd in times.
I may not trust him yet, but when his intentions become clear, I think he will be the most honest person in Westeros.
The Grandmeister (the old dude) was seen to be quite lively, contrary what he makes people believe.
Littlefinger seems quite untrustworthy, but he acts to his own agenda, which some in the ream may not like, but it's what he stays true to
The only person who is completely honest is Varys. We might not know his intentions yet, but he has been the only one not to act odd in times.
I may not trust him yet, but when his intentions become clear, I think he will be the most honest person in Westeros.
The Grandmeister (the old dude) was seen to be quite lively, contrary what he makes people believe.
Littlefinger seems quite untrustworthy, but he acts to his own agenda, which some in the ream may not like, but it's what he stays true to
CreepingFear
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So I started reading the books. Soon I will become one of them... Goodbye guys. It was fun seeing everything new with you all.
Try to come back and visit sometimes. Don't forget where you came from!
Pop On Arrival
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The best ending scene:
Nothing else matters..
Yeah, that scene was cool, but honestly all I was thinking was after that speech she was making the show was gonna gonna comedically quick cut to her head on a pike or showing her already flayed.
lastplayed
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The best ending scene:
Nothing else matters..
Release the kraken!
Really looking forward to see what happens. YOU BETTER NOT FUCK UP YARA.
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