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[The Lamonster]

Ian Whyte is ridiculously bad casting. Probably the worst casting in the show.

1) too young
2) too skinny
3) looks nothing like the original actor
4) looks nothing like his character's brother
5) NOT SCARY

 

[NathanMcMahon]

5) NOT SCARY

did you yell this out loud when you typed it?

 

[The Lamonster]

did you yell this out loud when you typed it?

YES I DID AND I AM YELLING THIS NOW!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Ian Whyte is ridiculously bad casting. Probably the worst casting in the show.

1) too young
2) too skinny
3) looks nothing like the original actor
4) looks nothing like his character's brother
5) NOT SCARY

I honestly have to question what they were thinking. He fits like one of the criteria: he's tall.

 

[NathanMcMahon]

YES I DID AND I AM YELLING THIS NOW!

 

[-griffy-]

I honestly have to question what they were thinking. He fits like one of the criteria: he's tall.

There's also that criteria of him being an actor that is available and able to work with the show's shooting schedule and get along with the crew and work for the amount they can pay him.

 

[Loofy]

I definitely understand why he took the Hobbit job instead of coming back for S2, considering the Mountain literally did nothing that season. I also heard that there were reports about him being difficult on the set of GoT, and he was very disappointed that a lot of the Hand's Tourney scene (from S1) was cut; apparently he had a lot of cool fight scenes that were edited down.

EDIT: Woops, I always get the threads confused. 'No book spoilers' should be the beginning of the title.

 

[Incognito]

it's like people have difficulty reading the op. weird.

 

[RukusProvider]

EDIT: Woops, I always get the threads confused.

Thanks for spoiling. Gonna have to report this one.

Book readers with their accidental spoilers need to get banned so eventually you form a collective brain and read the thread title before posting.

 

[NathanMcMahon]

There's also that criteria of him being an actor that is available and able to work with the show's shooting schedule and get along with the crew and work for the amount they can pay him.

pretty much this.

Thanks for spoiling. Gonna have to report this one.

Book readers with their accidental spoilers need to get banned so eventually you form a collective brain and read the thread title before posting.

why they're even in here is mind-boggling

 

[Des0lar]

pretty much this.



why they're even in here is mind-boggling

I'm in here as well. But I never post anything.

 

[Raist]

Thanks for spoiling. Gonna have to report this one.

Book readers with their accidental spoilers need to get banned so eventually you form a collective brain and read the thread title before posting.

To be fair both threads' titles look way too similar. They should be edited because it's a bit dodgy that way.

 

[spirity]

Looks like I've dodged two bullets today then. My luck is going to run out at some point.

 

[Brashnir]

Looks like I've dodged two bullets today then. My luck is going to run out at some point.

It was in the wrong thread, but it was behind a spoiler tag at least.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Looks like I've dodged two bullets today then. My luck is going to run out at some point.

? what 2 bullets?

 

[lamaroo]

I do wonder if gods really exist in this world. I mean you have magic, so it isn't a stretch to belive they exist, and maybe they are just giant dicks that enjoy letting good people die so assholes can continue to live.

 

[RukusProvider]

I do wonder if gods really exist in this world. I mean you have magic, so it isn't a stretch to belive they exist, and maybe they are just giant dicks that enjoy letting good people die so assholes can continue to live.

We have dire wolves, dragons, giants, people with far sight, take over animals, shadow babies...not exactly far fetched that actual Gods exist at this point, I'd say!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Looks like I've dodged two bullets today then. My luck is going to run out at some point.

There really shouldn't be a no spoiler show thread, a spoilers-ok show thread and a book thread. There should just be the book thread and a no spoiler show thread. People who want to discuss spoilers can (and already do, in fact) discuss the show in the book thread.

The only people really being serviced by the spoilers-ok show thread are people who have read the books, but didn't bother to finish them. That's not really a large enough community of interest that it justifies constant mistakes in which thread to post in.

 

[lamaroo]

We have dire wolves, dragons, giants, people with far sight, take over animals, shadow babies...not exactly far fetched that actual Gods exist at this point, I'd say!

Well Gods are some next level shit. Doesn't seem like they listen to prayers from humans, not the good ones at least. Then you have people switching Gods whenever they feel like and aren't being punished.

 

[lmpaler]

Roberts son with Arya is the one who would be more appealing to her.

To her yes, not to Stannis. He can use her against Rob

 

[someday]

Looks like I've dodged two bullets today then. My luck is going to run out at some point.

This is my fear as well. I love this show and I REALLY don't want to be spoiled on anything. I don't look at wikis or really any other GoT thing on the web because of this. I hesitated before subbing this thread but felt pretty secure that with 2 OTHER THREADS available to book readers that this one would be left alone. I mean, feel free to read; and if you really want to say something about an episode we can't stop you. But I'm sick of seeing, "oops, I posted in the wrong thread" when it's just not that freaking hard to read.

 

[Jarmel]

but he's not The Mountain that Rides god tier like Conan Stevens:


Conan as the Mountain in season one was a very scary dude.

Absolutely horrible casting change.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

We have dire wolves, dragons, giants, people with far sight, take over animals, shadow babies...not exactly far fetched that actual Gods exist at this point, I'd say!

Dire wolves don't belong in the same category as dragons and shadow babies because they actually existed at one point in history.

 

[Madness]

Is Sansa really next in line for Winterfell? I thought it followed old customs of sons only.

Especially considering that if she married Loras Tyrell, she becomes a Tyrell.

We just saw Riverrun and after the death of Catelyn's father, lordship didn't go down to Cat, but to her younger brother Edmure or whatever. That guy who can't shoot an arrow for shit.

I think people want Sansa because she is a Stark and if she's happy being married into the Tyrells, the Northerners would probably give their allegiance.

These Tyrells are quite shrewd. They've got Margaery as queen and she knows how to win the people and play Joffrey, but know the North won't support them, but if they make the eldest daughter of Ned Stark a Tyrell, they could bring a lot of Stark affiliated houses into the fold.

Even then, Robb won't let his sister get married without his permission or consent. I just hope Robb finds a way to get more troops and march on Kings Landing.

Dire wolves don't belong in the same category as dragons and shadow babies because they actually existed at one point in history.

Dragons existed at one point too. Didn't they say early in the first season that it's been a long time since they saw direwolves south of the wall? It seems with the arrival of white walkers and dragons, these mythical beasts and magic have returned.

It's only been 300 years since the last dragons org something? I wonder what Tywin meant when he told Arya that Aegon changed the rules. Did they never know dragons before? Did magic not exist then either?

 

[CountAntonius]

Ian Whyte is not a small man but his physical frame coupled with his height give him a more thin look. I mean it's not like he's a small fellow:


and it's not like he's tall and skinny:


but he's not The Mountain that Rides god tier like Conan Stevens:


Conan as the Mountain in season one was a very scary dude.

They should have replaced him with Nathan Jones

They are the same size.

 

[Funky Papa]

That man scares the shit out of me.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Dragons existed at one point too.

omg

EDIT: Wait, I may have misinterpreted your post. I was referring to the fact that Dire wolves were actually real beasts that existed at one point in history - in real life - and thus, shouldn't be compared to fictional entities like white walkers and dragons and shadow babies.

 

[CountAntonius]

Guess they figured people would assume the mountain lost a lot of weight from stress.

 

[Madness]

omg

Ah, judging by your response I seem to have missed your point, you meant in the real world LOL. I was saying they existed before as well in GRRM's world. . My mistake, I didn't understand.

 

[Koko]

omg

EDIT: Wait, I may have misinterpreted your post. I was referring to the fact that Dire wolves were actually real beasts that existed at one point in history - in real life - and thus, shouldn't be compared to fictional entities like white walkers and dragons and shadow babies.

They also existed in real life, at least that what I tell to myself.

 

[Ferrio]

Alternate Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RnDmt7GCPE

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Alternate Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RnDmt7GCPE

Ha, that's pretty good.

 

[Tacitus_]

Is Sansa really next in line for Winterfell? I thought it followed old customs of sons only.

Especially considering that if she married Loras Tyrell, she becomes a Tyrell.

Dragons existed at one point too. Didn't they say early in the first season that it's been a long time since they saw direwolves south of the wall? It seems with the arrival of white walkers and dragons, these mythical beasts and magic have returned.

It's only been 300 years since the last dragons org something? I wonder what Tywin meant when he told Arya that Aegon changed the rules. Did they never know dragons before? Did magic not exist then either?

Lessee. Firstly, yes, Westeros follows the middle-age inheritance rules. But, Brann and Rickon are dead to the world and only Theon and his captors know better. That leaves Jon for the male descendants, but he's a bastard - and he swore an oath to not have any lands or a wife when he joined the Black Brothers. That means Sansa is the current heir of Robb Stark due to he having no kids. And Sansa being married off wouldn't disinherit her - her husband would become the new Lord of Winterfell, should Sansa inherit it.

There's a bunch of Aegons since the people in Westeros like to reuse the names in their family, but I presume he meant Aegon the Conqueror, who came over to Westeros and was the one who united the kingdoms under his rule. Westeros had no knowledge of dragons before this (Tywins history lesson in S2) and the constructor of Harrenhall thought he had the biggest, baddest castle on the continent. But the dragons changed the rules of warfare and melted down the walls.

 

[Steelyuhas]

To be fair both threads' titles look way too similar. They should be edited because it's a bit dodgy that way.

They've already been edited once for clarity.

People should use subscriptions, or read.

Is Sansa really next in line for Winterfell? I thought it followed old customs of sons only.

Yes, sons are the heirs first, but no one knows where Bran and Rickon are/most people assume they are dead, so the eldest daughter (Sansa) would be Robb's heir in their absence.

 

[iamblades]

They also existed in real life, at least that what I tell to myself.

They did exist in real life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf

They weren't as big as the ones in GoT, though, they were only slightly larger than modern wolves, not as big as tigers.

 

[Koko]

They did exist in real life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf

They weren't as big as the ones in GoT, though, they were only slightly larger than modern wolves, not as big as tigers.

:lol I was talking/joking about the dragons

 

[iamblades]

:lol I was talking/joking about the dragons

Oh the original post wasn't in the quote, didn't follow the conversation that far back

 

[Madness]

They've already been edited once for clarity.

People should use subscriptions, or read.


Yes, sons are the heirs first, but no one knows where Bran and Rickon are/most people assume they are dead, so the eldest daughter (Sansa) would be Robb's heir in their absence.

Does that mean there is a chance that Loras Tyrell marrying Sansa would make him the eventual lord of both Winterfell and the South or wherever House Tyrell is from, if Robb and the North are defeated? Damn these Tyrell's are just as power hungry as the Lannisters.

It seems they know how to play the game of thrones perfectly. They'll get Margaery married to Joffrey and wrap him around her finger. She'll be Queen, possibly get pregnant as well. And now House Tyrell basically rules most of Westeros save for the North. This can be assuaged by marrying Sansa to Loras.

I can't wait for next week's episode. So excited to see what happens. Where Dany is headed next, and whether Jon will find out what happened at Craster's Keep and save Sam. I know it's hard for Essos and Westeros to communicate, and Jorah never even knew Robert Baratheon was dead and that the kingdoms were at war, but do you think he'll find out about his dad getting back stabbed? Maybe he'll want to finally rush back to Westeros as opposed to delaying it.

 

[Pepto]

Free tip for readers of this thread: never read the last page of the thread. Pretty much all spoilers will be deleted by the time those posts hit the second-to-last page.

 

[Vagabundo]

Really enjoyed this episode, probably my fav of the season so far. I find that GoT seasons start slow for me and really build to heaven.

I was chuffed my Dany prediction came true and it was an epic scene.

I'm not sure I like this lord of light character. His religion seems pretty vague, mostly about burning stuff.

I did lol at the sorcerer in a box, and he seemed to have his lips sown shut I thought.

The queen or thorns or roses (whatever) is my new favorite character.

I found myself feeling sorry for Jamie.

I'm enjoying this season more than season 2. I think it is because the pacing is a little slower and they can spend a little longer on scenes. I hope they keep splitting the books into two seasons.

 

[Vashetti]

I hope they keep splitting the books into two seasons.

I think this may be the only way to prevent the show from catching up with the books.

Season 1 (2011) - Book 1
Season 2 (2012) - Book 2
Season 3 (2013) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 4 (2014) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 5 (2015) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 6 (2016) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 7 (2017) - 1/2 of Book 5
Season 8 (2018) - 1/2 of Book 5

Not familiar with the books so this is just a suggestion on my part. Anyone know if that's feasible?

 

[Neki]

I wouldn't mind them doing that as long as we still get significant plot progression, but I don't know how well that would convey into the T.V series though, because half of a book doesn't always resolve all the questions it brings up.

 

[sinxtanx]

I think this may be the only way to prevent the show from catching up with the books.

Season 1 (2011) - Book 1
Season 2 (2012) - Book 2
Season 3 (2013) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 4 (2014) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 5 (2015) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 6 (2016) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 7 (2017) - 1/2 of Book 5
Season 8 (2018) - 1/2 of Book 5

Not familiar with the books so this is just a suggestion on my part. Anyone know if that's feasible?

Familiar with the books and, no, not very feasible. Book three is just super long.
From what I've heard, they're combining books 4 and 5 into seasons 5 and 6.

 

[Jubern]

What I'm really worried about is whether they'll keep giving the series the same treatment for the 10 or so years that would be needed to adapt the entire thing...

 

[Vashetti]

What I'm really worried about is whether they'll keep giving the series the same treatment for the 10 or so years that would be needed to adapt the entire thing...

As long as it keeps making money I don't see why not.

Looking at the show so far, it's just gotten bigger and bigger every year. The only reference point as to what would happen if the show started to decline in ratings/money is to look at other cancelled HBO shows.

 

[KrispeKreme]

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[Chuckie]

It was books 3 and 4 that were in set in the same timeline. The author decided to break the books up along character story lines instead of running all character's story lines concurrently and stopping in the middle and calling that book 3 then continuing in book 4.

The tv show is combining the story threads and running them concurrently, it is one reason it feels like season 3 has three times the threads that 2 had.

No it was 4 and 5, but that seems a bit irrelevant in this thread.

Oh and a small warning. Do not enter the other thread! Some open big spoilers.

Stay safe No-book GAF!

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Most badass episode ending? I saw it coming two-three episodes ago but still, the execution of that scene was incredible

 

[Ikael]

I think this may be the only way to prevent the show from catching up with the books.

Season 1 (2011) - Book 1
Season 2 (2012) - Book 2
Season 3 (2013) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 4 (2014) - 1/2 of Book 3
Season 5 (2015) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 6 (2016) - 1/2 of Book 4
Season 7 (2017) - 1/2 of Book 5
Season 8 (2018) - 1/2 of Book 5

Not familiar with the books so this is just a suggestion on my part. Anyone know if that's feasible?

Book reader here, what you propose would be impossible, if not downright horrible.

Let me explain it: the producers (wisely) decided to divide the 3rd book into two seaons not because they didn't want to catch up with Martin, but rather because it was stuffed with plot twists and major events. Which is great, but if translated directly into tv they could lead into confussion for the viewer (no inner thought monologues or well laid out schemes here) so they decided to pace it down a little more (with great sucess, I must add).

In the latter books (4 & 5) the plot went into a lull. The scope of the story expanded with new characters and factions, but that was at the expense of the plot advancement. Thing is, the adaptation for these last two books is begging for the opposite treatment that the third book got: descriptions and introductions can be easily summarized in the visual medium (example: show the new city rathe than describe it) but it becomes kinda exhausting on a written form. If anything, they can condense book 4 and 5 into a single season and believe me, it would be for the better.

As long as it keeps making money I don't see why not.

Looking at the show so far, it's just gotten bigger and bigger every year. The only reference point as to what would happen if the show started to decline in ratings/money is to look at other cancelled HBO shows.

Ugh, please no. I hate when executives do that to series. Plot filler is shitty writting. Make series end when the plot demands it, for God's shake. As a fan of the show I would hate it if they take that route. I would rather may preferred series to end in a blaze of glory rather than having additional seaons of suffering a long and painful death. And no, I do not hestiate to stop watching a series once it takes that bullshit milking approach (Lost, The Walking Dead, and many more).

 

[freddy]

This thread was awesome when it was pretend the books don't exist.