ElectricBlue187
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Why did we stop doing that?
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Why did we stop doing that?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I thought the formula they were following was:
Season 1 - A Game of Thrones
Season 2 - A Clash of Kings
Season 3 - 1/2 A Storm of Swords
Season 4 - 1/2 A Storm of Swords
And for A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons they were going to structure and write the content into whatever works for television, but under no strict guideline that a season must cover X amount of whatever book. Essentially take the material and adapt it accurately for television, taking however long they need to cover all the content.
Season 1 - A Game of Thrones
Season 2 - A Clash of Kings
Season 3 - 1/2 A Storm of Swords
Season 4 - 1/2 A Storm of Swords
And for A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons they were going to structure and write the content into whatever works for television, but under no strict guideline that a season must cover X amount of whatever book. Essentially take the material and adapt it accurately for television, taking however long they need to cover all the content.
ReadingRambo
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Stop asking questions only a book reader can answer. I can resist the urge and like to watch you all fumble around in the dark, others cannot.
ThoseDeafMutes
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The more seasons they can split it over the better, gotta give GRRM a head start to finish the series.
That's a great question.
Mods, why did we stop doing that? No discussion about books, I mean. It seems the way it is now you're leaving it up to individual posters to decide if they think they possess enough wit not to spoil and the reality, sadly, is a lot are coming up short.
ElectricBlue187
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Or they can just be made examples of as they were in the past. I don't see why there are two threads if we're just going to talk about the books in both of them.
ReadingRambo
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It's much more likely that he'll just have to tell the show writers his vision and let them finish it first. Absolutely nothing has moved this man to be more productive up to this point with the series.
But it won't benefit the quality of the tv series to spread the two weakest books out across multiple seasons. Two seasons for books 4 and 5 is pushing it IMO, there are simply not enough plot twists to make it work.
On the other hand, A Storm of Swords is a perfect book for season 3 and 4. It's the best book in the series and the producers have done a terrific job so far. I loved episode 4.
Yup, haven't read the books but from Season 3 already I can tell that ASOS is an amazing book.
The jump in quality from Seasons 1/2 to 3 has been astonishing.
So you're basically saying don't speculate and wonder about stuff? Because that's ridiculous. Whatever the case, book readers shouldn't answer those questions.
The non-book readers can PM someone if they have something they really want to know, but the point of this thread is to have a discussion as if the books don't exist.
I get that that's been forgotten right now, with all the book/adaptation talk, but still.
Heck, if anyone has a question they can PM me. Just don't answer questions like that in the thread, if possible.
ReadingRambo
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When people frame questions as "I'm not a book reader so...", or "Maybe a book reader can help out" then you're gonna have book readers chiming in, as on this very page.
I get that, that's why I think 'real' questions should be PM'ed, and speculative/rethorical question shouldn't be answered by book readers.
If someone has a real question, they should PM a reader. Other people in this thread might not want to know the answer and that jazz, and tagging answers doesn't really work that well.
I realise this isn't going to happen, and threads like this always end up in some sort of strange limbo filled with tagged posts, edited spoilers, and annoyed people, but I'd still like to give it a try.
ReadingRambo
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As a reader I love watching show watchers try to sort it all out. Hell, it's really hard even having read the books 2-3 times each. I will say it gets frustrating seeing people grapple over plot intricacies that were handled better in the books.
I didn't realise the dude who tricked Theon was Simon from the Misfits for a good while, I felt pretty dumb about it.
I wonder if the reason for his recapture just because he said he chose wrong? Was it all just a test to see where his allegiance lied? I guess we'll find out!
But I feel like I haven't paid much attention to Theon at all so maybe I missed something in previous eps.
Also Dany with the army and shit. Badass.
I wonder if the reason for his recapture just because he said he chose wrong? Was it all just a test to see where his allegiance lied? I guess we'll find out!
But I feel like I haven't paid much attention to Theon at all so maybe I missed something in previous eps.
Also Dany with the army and shit. Badass.
I feel the same way. Now lets move this to the other thread, and let these people get their speculation on!
And again, if anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me!
Nah, that wouldn't make much sense. He had lead him back to the same spot already before Theon said anything like that.
I still think the guy leading him around is probably Roose's bastard. There's simply no other reason for the guy he shot to have called him that. It's too obvious of a hint. That and the device Theon was tied to looks obviously like the flayed man sigil of the Boltons. So the allegiance test wouldn't make much sense there, either.
All that Bolton stuff went over my head, I haven't paid much attention to Theon's storyline at all
gregor7777
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Did they release anything about the ratings for the last episode?
BroDudeGuy
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...al-housewives-of-atlanta-vikings-more/179182/
4.87 million people viewership for the premiere and I believe the replay at 10pm got 2.6 million.
4.87 mil and 2.6 rating for 18-49.
All that Bolton stuff went over my head, I haven't paid much attention to Theon's storyline at all
To be fair, it is really fucking subtle. Roose sent his bastard to take Winterfell last season. We know he got there because there was a small scene saying he got back some info. We've seen the Bolton's sigil on that group that has Jaime (and on HBO's website, which says they're totally wonderful people... and by that I mean they're famous for skinning people alive). The sigil looks pretty damned similar to the torture device Theon's on. And then when the guy who was with Theon shot that one other dude, the other guy called him a bastard. Yeah, in real life that could just be something he says, but in a show where every line counts, you don't normally throw in something like that, so I think that's likely a pretty big hint that he's Roose's bastard. It was too subtle to be a fakeout in the other direction (i.e. making us think it's his bastard when it isn't.)
Theon's storyline has been kind of frustrating, since not much is explained and a bunch of stuff is still really open. Like what the hell happened? Why is Winterfell burned? Did they exchange Theon? Did they fight? Does Roose's bastard have Theon, and why? Didn't Roose get a message this season saying he got away (I could be misremembering that)?
It's all kind of messy as hell, and I'm hoping we get answers soon.
PhoenixDark
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It's tracking similar to True Blood now, which is impressive. Of course GoT is more profitable because it's popular around the world whereas TB is a more United States-centric popularity.
S1 started pretty low before reaching 3m for the finale. And S2 ranged between 3.5-3.8m views all season until the end, which hit 4m iirc. I think this season could hit 5m before the finale given how huge the last two episodes have been, ratings wise. Gotta say they've had perfect endings (the hand, dragons) that were ultimate buzz/water cooler moments.
robotzombie
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I really think the theon story is this: theons guys knock him out and plan to just take him home or whatever, but they are surrounded by Roose boltons bastard. They either torched the place to escape and left theon for the bastard to find or maybe there was a fight between the groups and that's how winterfell was destroyed. Or the iron born guys just left and the bastards men are just crazy and torched the place themselves for some reason.
Either way, I'm guessing they are the ones who have theon, and are torturing him for info and/or just because they seem to enjoy torture. But the weird kid DID get the info on bran and rickon being alive while tricking theon. I'm guessing the kid from misfits is either the bastard or we just haven't seen the bastard yet, but I think anything about the iron born and being a spy for the sister is just bullshit
Either way, I'm guessing they are the ones who have theon, and are torturing him for info and/or just because they seem to enjoy torture. But the weird kid DID get the info on bran and rickon being alive while tricking theon. I'm guessing the kid from misfits is either the bastard or we just haven't seen the bastard yet, but I think anything about the iron born and being a spy for the sister is just bullshit
5mil+ plus next week I think due to the Daenerys ending.
And then down again for episode 6 when the casual audience realises Daenerys isn't going straight to Westeros
Why do the people of Kings Landing like Joffrey now? Whe Maegery took him out to see them, some were even shouting Joffreys name. What gives, surely the people don't really think it was Joffrey that led the defence of the city? Or was that the official line and they all believed it? I'd have thought that the truth would get out (after all, the people of KL knew about cercei and jamie)
Well we know that Margaery has been talking with them and they like her, so I guess it has to do more with the fact that they like Margaery rather than Joffrey. Or it could be just the Tyrells bribing the citizens to like him.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Yes.
Keep in mind that there are no internet detectives in Westeros and Tyrion didn't poo-poo him in public. For all they know he was commanding the troops from somewhere.
Is this doing less than The Walking Dead?
It's on HBO not AMC, of course it's less
Yeah, pretend for a second i don't have a clear understanding of all the various US tv channels.
HBO is a subscription channel.
You have to pay to watch its shows, hence why the viewers are lower compared to "free" TV channels.
Which is why there's so much publicity over Game of Thrones' success.
It does quite a bit less than The Walking Dead. It's better critically and for awards.
I think we'll see a Season 4 as a mix of ASOS and A Feast for Crows and Season 5 a mix of A Feast for Crows and A Dance With Dragons.
Thanks.
Since GoT looks like a much more successful show on paper (insane production values, Fantasy setting, fast moving plot, violence and nudity ahoy) it wasn't quite clear how could it not be one of the top shows, to me.
That cleared it up.
NathanMcMahon
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It is HBO's most successful show though. So there is that at least.
Battle Born
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I haven't read the books and the following is speculation on my part:
She doesn't have ships to cross the sea and if how much time she needed to get an army is any indication she won't have those any time soon.
Morrigan Stark
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Relevant, I'd say:
Trouncing Boardwalk Empire and catching up to True Blood (when you consider the numbers for S3 so far, which weren't plotted on that graph yet).
I'm generally wholly against Bish gifs of any form, but someone really needs to shop the Bish face slowly peering out over her shoulder, like the polar bear in this:
The Anti-Monitor
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CitizenVectron
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It doesn't matter if you think someone else is a spoiler or speculation. If you're a book reader, then don't comment on someone else's spoilers or speculation as you are only confirming or denying something, which is spoiling in itself! I would edit your posts before a mod does and potentially bans you.
If you noticed someone is spoiling something or you think is trying to secretly spoil something, then report it to a mod, don't confirm the spoiler by attacking them!
On GAF and in this thread, you either get banned young or post long enough to see yourself become the villain, it seems.
I'm NOT a book reader. That's why i complained when he said it like it wasn't speculation. I guess now he clarified...so all is well.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
This thread is getting out of control. Jesus.
My god, come on people! If you think someone is spoiling something PM him/her or PM a mod! Don't go attacking them in this thread! It's extremely confusing to everyone, and could attract attention to the possible spoiler.
Just assume everything is speculation, which is probably the case nine times out of ten, and PM if you're having doubts.
*sigh*
Just assume everything is speculation, which is probably the case nine times out of ten, and PM if you're having doubts.
*sigh*
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