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[DrForester]

It doesn't really matter that much to me, but I feel like they could've gotten away with the original names. Anytime I talk to anyone about the show, they either read the books and know everyone's "real" names or they're like, "you know that red lady...."

Yeah, I actually have less problems with them using characters to replace lesser characters, like Bronn being named commander of the City Watch rather than introduce Jacelyn.

On another note, what was the reason for changing Cleos Frey to Alton Lannister? just to make it more clear he's on the Lannister side?

It's like they read the books as they go along. They could've had the foresight to realize that Asha is a way more important character than Osha (at least thus far) and changed Osha's name instead.

Just getting into book 3 the only thing this name change does is has me expecting a glorious battle between Asha and Osha at some point. Least with the books I'd say Osha is a more important character up to the end of book 2 at least. With her going of with Rickon I expect that may change though.

Most people I know aren't aware of Daenerys's name at all.

To be fair, even in the books her name is almost never used other than the chapter title or if she's introducing herself to someone.

 

[agrajag]

Yeah, I actually have less problems with them using characters to replace lesser characters, like Bronn being named commander of the City Watch rather than introduce Jacelyn.

On another note, what was the reason for changing Cleos Frey to Alton Lannister? just to make it more clear he's on the Lannister side?



Just getting into book 3 the only thing this name change does is has me expecting a glorious battle between Asha and Osha at some point. Least with the books I'd say Osha is a more important character up to the end of book 2 at least. With her going of with Rickon I expect that may change though.

Was Rickon even IN season 2 though? It's painfully obvious the show producers could give a fuck about Bran and Rickon.

 

[fallengorn]

On another note, what was the reason for changing Cleos Frey to Alton Lannister? just to make it more clear he's on the Lannister side?

Probably. A lot of Frey characters are MIA. It's probably for the best. Outside of a handful of them, they can be hard to keep track of.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Most people I know aren't aware of Daenerys's name at all.

You mean Khaleesi?

 

[Steelyuhas]

Was Rickon even IN season 2 though? It's painfully obvious the show producers could give a fuck about Bran and Rickon.

He was in 5 episodes this season.

 

[DrForester]

You mean Khaleesi?

You mean Bloodofmyblood?

Was Rickon even IN season 2 though? It's painfully obvious the show producers could give a fuck about Bran and Rickon.

Good, I found the Bran chapters in COC painfully boring most the time, least until Reeds show up.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Yeah, I actually have less problems with them using characters to replace lesser characters, like Bronn being named commander of the City Watch rather than introduce Jacelyn.

On another note, what was the reason for changing Cleos Frey to Alton Lannister? just to make it more clear he's on the Lannister side?



Just getting into book 3 the only thing this name change does is has me expecting a glorious battle between Asha and Osha at some point. Least with the books I'd say Osha is a more important character up to the end of book 2 at least. With her going of with Rickon I expect that may change though.



To be fair, even in the books her name is almost never used other than the chapter title or if she's introducing herself to someone.

Because House Frey was established in Season 1 as being allied with Robb Stark and the North, but Cleos Frey is allied with the Lannisters. There wasn't any reason at all to keep him named "Frey."

As for Dany, her name is used all the time because she is the third-person narrator so it tends to refer to things that "Dany" says. There's only like 1 person I recall that refers to her by name and she gets mad every time.

 

[agrajag]

He was in 5 episodes this season.

Really? I don't remember seeing him at all.

 

[Cornballer]

Really? I don't remember seeing him at all.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Really? I don't remember seeing him at all.

Yes

The Ghost of Harrenhal (5)
The Old Gods and the New (6)
A Man Without Honor (7)
The Prince of Winterfell (8)
Valar Morghulis (10)

Haha perfect.

 

[DrForester]

This is your brain...
this is your brain on a Bran chapter.

Any questions?

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Really? I don't remember seeing him at all.

cracking walnuts on the table in the great hall.
beaten like a walnut

 

[agrajag]

Ah, I see. I was probably perusing GAF during scenes like that.

 

[DrForester]

On episode 4. Don't know if I like Jeoffrey being portrayed as a sadist, instead of the dumbass sadist...

Episode 5
ROY DOTRICE! Glad to see they got him in the show. Though I will admit, seeing him in a scene with Tyrion, I kind of wish he had played the Pyromancer in his Tyrion voice.

Wait, the Reeds have been cut altogether? That sucks....

That sucks a lot.

 

[The Lamonster]

Reeds are in season 3! Its been confirmed.

 

[DrForester]

Reeds are in season 3! Its been confirmed.

Crisis averted. So how long do I have till season 3. Season 2 just finished right? Plenty of time to read through the next 3 books?

 

[Steelyuhas]

Crisis averted. So how long do I have till season 3. Season 2 just finished right? Plenty of time to read through the next 3 books?

Yes, season 3 should start around the same time as the first two, so April.

 

[DrForester]

Episode 6

I think that the rewrite to have Arya serving Tywin works very well, I actually think many of the time saving rewrites have worked well. They've managed to make Jaqen even more of a bad-ass. And now that I like the character, I know what GRRM must d- hey Joffrey is awesome... man, I sure hope he doesn't die...

Roy McCann is really shining as Sandor Clegane this season

 

[Chuckie]

You mean Kelly C?

Fixed that for ya

 

[Hero]

Spoilers for SoS and beyond:

Spoiler

Does anyone else feel that S2 of the show made Shae out to be more of a heroic or likeable character than she was in the book? I'm kind of hoping that she doesn't betray Tyrion in the TV series.

 

[Famassu]

Spoilers for SoS and beyond:

Spoiler

Does anyone else feel that S2 of the show made Shae out to be more of a heroic or likeable character than she was in the book? I'm kind of hoping that she doesn't betray Tyrion in the TV series.

Yes, will be interesting to see how they handle that in the series. ASOS

Spoiler

Will they do some soap opera shit where they'll end up having some relationship troubles (maybe Tyrion *SHOCK* cheats on her and she becomes bitter over that) or will they simply show the Lannisters torturing her so much that she has no other option but to comply. Because those are the only two options I could see, given how good they are making her seem as a character. Of course it could all be an act, but... with the way she has helped Sansa, I'm not too sure about that.

 

[fallout]

Spoilers for SoS and beyond:

Spoiler

Does anyone else feel that S2 of the show made Shae out to be more of a heroic or likeable character than she was in the book? I'm kind of hoping that she doesn't betray Tyrion in the TV series.

Similar ASoS level spoilers:

Spoiler

You know, I was struggling at one point to remember if book-Shae was that compassionate or not. That said, I was a bit surprised when she betrayed Tyrion in the book. Maybe not so much when she was sleeping with Tywin, mind you.

 

[PBalfredo]

You mean Bloodofmyblood?

You mean Motherofdragons?

 

[Trojita]

Good, I found the Bran chapters in COC painfully boring most the time, least until Reeds show up.

The Reeds showed up in the first half of the book didn't they?

I was glad to finally get a confirmation about Bran's Wolf Dreams and for him to accept that power.

HBO really dropped the ball on Bran's Dreams. The crow ones and the wolf ones.

 

[Ark]

Everyone here should watch this video. Only season 1 & 2 spoilers.

 

[Forsaken82]

They did the same thing with Robert Arryn, too. He's called "Robin" in the series since he was around at the same time as Robert Baratheon was still alive.

Robin makes a bit more sense than Robert though as a name change since (series)

Spoiler

He is called Sweet Robin quite a bit later on

Asha and Osha is just plain viewers are to dumb to figure shit out.

 

[DrForester]

 

[DrForester]

The Reeds showed up in the first half of the book didn't they?

I was glad to finally get a confirmation about Bran's Wolf Dreams and for him to accept that power.

HBO really dropped the ball on Bran's Dreams. The crow ones and the wolf ones.

Problem is that those sequences have no dialogue, and you need dialogue. It would not surprise me if that was one of the driving reasons to have Arya serve as Tywin's cup-bearer. She needed someone to talk to.

 

[meijiko]

You mean Motherofdragons?

You mean Moonofmylife?

Damn, it almost came out to ASOIAF.

 

[Supermanisdead]

You mean Khaleesi?

Pretty sure it's spelled Kelly C

 

[Cornballer]

From HBO: Game of Thrones gets Hall H at Comic-Con. Friday, July 13th. Time TBA.

Probably a 3pm start time for the panel.

 

[fallout]

Damn, it almost came out to ASOIAF.

It does if you make Shitload one word.

 

[Rengoku]

Probably a 3pm start time for the panel.

I remember hearing ppl who waited ~4 hours in line last year still couldn't get into the panel, so if anyone's going, be prepared spend pretty much your entire day at Hall H.

 

[Lakitu]

I wonder who will be at the panel this year.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I wonder who will be at the panel this year.

Emilia Clark will be there for 20, Kitt Harrington for 15 minutes, and Esme Bianco will be there for the full panel

 

[Cornballer]

I wonder who will be at the panel this year.

.

According to Lena Headey, both her and George R. R. Martin will be in attendance. Headey also let spill that David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will not be coming this year. The full panel should be officially announced by HBO soon.

 

[bengraven]

Emilia Clark will be there for 20, Kitt Harrington for 15 minutes, and Esme Bianco will be there for the full panel

I don't know if you're serious or not.

Headey also let spill that David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will not be coming this year

o fuck, Community situation going on here?!

 

[fallengorn]

Emilia Clark will be there for 20, Kitt Harrington for 15 minutes, and Esme Bianco will be there for the full panel

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Did they show anything off last year, or was it just mostly Q&A?

 

[NathanMcMahon]

I don't know if you're serious or not.



o fuck, Community situation going on here?!

haha, it's much less nefarious

 

[Cornballer]

- Via WiC.net: Joe Dempsie interview with 1883 Magazine

Not too much on GoT, but he answers a couple of questions about the show.

Did they show anything off last year, or was it just mostly Q&A?

I'm pretty sure it was all Q&A last year.

 

[DrForester]

Episode 7
Something that came off just as odd in this episode as the book was Theon logic. I know the guy is not that smart in the books, or the show, but his choice to fake Rickon and Bran's death always came off as very strange. There was nothing to gain by it. He wasn't secretly trying to find them on the side, and using fakes to buy time. He never expects them to surface again and prove him a liar and a fraud. Even in the books it seemed nothing more than a plot hook to drive Catlyn to her decision to break out Jaime.

 

[fallout]

Episode 7
Something that came off just as odd in this episode as the book was Theon logic. I know the guy is not that smart in the books, or the show, but his choice to fake Rickon and Bran's death always came off as very strange. There was nothing to gain by it. He wasn't secretly trying to find them on the side, and using fakes to buy time. He never expects them to surface again and prove him a liar and a fraud. Even in the books it seemed nothing more than a plot hook to drive Catlyn to her decision to break out Jaime.

I always just chalked it up to Theon making incredibly dumb decisions under pressure.

 

[DrForester]

I always just chalked it up to Theon making incredibly dumb decisions under pressure.

It just seemed beyond even Theon's usual levels of stupid.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

It just seemed beyond even Theon's usual levels of stupid.

I think it was a combination of not wanting to appear weak (he couldn't produce Bran and Rickon, but if everyone knew they escaped him, it would make him look really pathetic) and

Spoiler

Ramsay manipulating him into doing it.

 

[Lkr]

i just finished watching season 2(finished season 1 earlier this week), and i just found the ending of it a bit underwhelming. season 1 was probably the best ten episode stretch i've seen of a television series. some interesting plot development was made in the beginning to middle of season 2 but it all just seemed to fall flat on its face by the end of the season. are unmarked spoilers allowed in this thread? figured i'd ask before i started asking questions/discussing things

 

[28 Posts Later]

are unmarked spoilers allowed in this thread? figured i'd ask before i started asking questions/discussing things

If it has aired it's fair game. So discuss anything that occurred in Season 2 without spoiler tags, but future events require tags. If you haven't read the books there's a 'No Book Spoilers' thread you might find better suited to your situation. [This is the book readers thread]

 

[Lkr]

If it has aired it's fair game. So discuss anything that occurred in Season 2 without spoiler tags, but future events require tags. If you haven't read the books there's a 'No Book Spoilers' thread you might find better suited to your situation. [This is the book readers thread]

gotcha, thanks a ton. that thread is where i shall be then

 

[DrForester]

gotcha, thanks a ton. that thread is where i shall be then

Read the books and join us!

 

[DrForester]

Season 2 finish

A good season. I agree with comments that it wasn't quite up to season 1, but there is so much to cover, I guess it is to be expected. What the heck with the ending with Sam...

Lots of improvements from cast members. I liked Cersei and Danerys a lot more this season. Maisie Williams is really amazing as Arya, they really lucked out on casting.

I was a bit let down at the House of the Undying sequence, but I fully expected it not to live up to the books. It was alright (Really liked the sequence with Drogo), but the book was amazing for this part.

Going to put this next thing under spoilers, it's from COK but wasn't done in this season. How it is handled, of if this thread is going to be cut entirely, who knows. I am not far enough into book 3 to realize how much it matters yet.

Spoiler

I wonder if Winterfell being sacked will be shown in a flashback to show that it was the Bolton's. Just show the Iron Men leaving. Not having the Bolton's do it seems to diminish the event.

And also to the above, how the heck are they going to get Sam back to the Fist. Wonder if he'll just magically be with everyone at start of next season.

 

[fallengorn]

Game of Thrones attack ads.

Spoiler

I wonder if Winterfell being sacked will be shown in a flashback to show that it was the Bolton's. Just show the Iron Men leaving. Not having the Bolton's do it seems to diminish the event.

And also to the above, how the heck are they going to get Sam back to the Fist. Wonder if he'll just magically be with everyone at start of next season.

I don't doubt that they'll have

Spoiler

the Boltons be responsible for sacking Kings Landing but I doubt they'll use a flashback, they hadn't used any before.

They'll probably just show Sam running away and bumping into everyone else who's retreating. I doubt they're going to show them defending the First.