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Anyone know of a good site to order a laptop with a GeForce GTX 485M?
Is there any certain reason you want the GTX 485M, when the 6970M equals it, and costs $250 less?MadOdorMachine said:Anyone know of a good site to order a laptop with a GeForce GTX 485M?
Not particularly. I just thought it was the best mobile GPU out there. I've heard HP makes good laptops and that they use AMD GPUs, but I'm having a hard time navigating their site. It's a jumbled mess. I'm worried about all the garbage software they'll load on it too. FYI - I'm currently using a 3 year old Macbook.K.Jack said:Is there any certain reason you want the GTX 485M, when the 6970M equals it, and costs $250 less?
K.Jack said:Is there any certain reason you want the GTX 485M, when the 6970M equals it, and costs $250 less?
Check at GGS-Data. I know they are selling the newest Clevos.jorma said:Is this 6970M card really new? I'm considering a gaming laptop for Witcher 2 at the moment and it seems I can't find a computer with this card anywhere in Sweden. :x
Giolon said:Ok, the Z's no good for gaming. Then can someone recommend a good approx 13-14" gaming laptop?
My most important factor is screen resolution (1366x768 isn't going to cut it, 1600x900 is necessary at the least). The next most important factor is weight. I've got a 15" Dell Inspiron that's served me fantastically for the last 3 years but it weighs almost 7lbs (with the extended battery, 6.5lbs w/ regular battery). Something under 4lbs would be ideal, which is why I was looking at the Z.
If it's absolutely necessary, I can consider a 15", but again the weight is very big concern. Over 5.5lbs is probably a dealbreaker. I realize that perf/weight are pretty much at odds with each other.
BoobPhysics101 said:Could you put my post about Core Parking + fix in the OP of the new thread? I think everyone with a gaming laptop and Core i series needs to read it and check whether their core parking is functioning correctly. It makes a huge difference, and can even give an FPS boost (your CPU won't perform as well if the cores are parking/unparking repeatedly).
Everything will run and look the same - only bigger. Thats assuming the laptop is good enough to output 1080p.Dryst said:Newbie question..... my current desktop is plenty powerful for any PC gaming needs. However, i'm thinking of purchasing a laptop in the 1k range to connect to my 60inch DLP via HDMI for gaming in my living room using a wireless keyboard/mouse...
I've never hooked a machine up to my TV before since I never keep a TV in my room and I always have had desktops.... will games run like crap on such a big screen? Will playing movies from my laptop hard drive look the same as streaming them from my PC to PS3?
Basically will this look like sh*t.... i'd really love to play WoW on a 60inch screen but I have no idea if it will look like I imagine it in my head =(
You mean like it will accept an incoming HDMI signal from a bluray player or something and display it on screen. If so I would be fairly confident in saying no.ShdwDrake said:Is it possible to get a laptop with HDMI in?
asdad123 said:The m17xR3 and m18x have that feature.
K.Jack said:Check at GGS-Data. I know they are selling the newest Clevos.
gdt5016 said:Holy shit thank you!
SS4Gogita said:I actually feel like a bit of a dummy now because I went back to the site where I originally saw the coupon, and further down the list I saw another one that saved even more. D'oh!
The NB8095 coupon brought that model down to $787.24 before taxes, and for me came out to $838.42 total.
cleveridea said:Thinking of this laptop for business use plus 3D gaming especially Action RPG's. like idea of store return as dead pixels drive me nuts and my understanding is Best Buy now no longer have restocking fee on computer returns.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ASUS+-+...lack/1774899.p?id=1218290438380&skuId=1774899
Intel® Core i7 processor
8GB DDR3 memory
NVIDIA GTX 460M graphics 1GB video memory
The problem you guys are running into is a new Windows 7 "feature".
To accurately measure time in a Windows PC, software uses the QueryPerformanceCounter function. Many applications, especially games, depend on this Windows function to accurately calculate FPS as well as for many other timing purposes in game including sound.
The problem is that for many computers, this function in Windows 7 is now based on the clock speed of the processor. If you overclock in the bios and then boot up, this timer is calibrated and will work 100% correctly. If you use SetFSB or a similar program and you change the bus speed from within Windows, you have now just screwed up this very important timing mechanism. The number of applications that can choke after you do this is surprising, especially games.
I wrote a program called WinTimerTester to test for this problem.
WinTimerTester 1.1
http://www.mediafire.com/?xzo9n84d8lze9nb
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xadvhe
What it does is it runs two different clocks in your CPU at the same time and compares them to make sure they are both running at the same speed. It compares the Windows GetTickCount function to the QueryPerformanceCounter function and within approximately 60 to 100 seconds, these two timers should be running at a perfect 1.0000 : 1 ratio.
If you overclock your CPU with SetFSB and WinTimerTester reports that these timers are not running at a 1.0000 : 1 ratio, that shows that you have this bug and you have also overclocked this important timer within your computer which can screw up a variety of programs in a variety of ways.
Luckily there is a solution to this Windows bug. Microsoft actually considers this a feature but for anyone that uses SetFSB on a regular basis, it's a big bug.
To fix this problem, open up a command window and type in this:
bcdedit /set useplatformclock true
You will have to exit the command window and reboot before this setting can take affect. What this does is it changes Windows so the QueryPerformanceCounter function will be based on a fixed counter that is not influenced by SetFSB. That one line of code should correct this problem and your games will run fine when using SetFSB.
If you ever want to go back to the original buggered up timer that Windows uses then open up a command window and type in this.
bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
Once again, reboot and things will be back to the default Windows 7 timer. These two images should show you when your internal timers are broken and what WinTimerTester will report when your internal timer is fixed. This only applies to Windows 7. There is a similar fix for Windows XP so PM me if you need it.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3778/timerbroken.png
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8417/timerfix.png
Let me know if this finally solves your problem. My friend some_one over on XtremeSystems told me about this little trick.
[In reply to]Boobphysics101: On a different note. It would be a good idea to run ThrottleStop and increase your TDP/TDC settings to ensure that you get full turbo boost when you are overclocking with SetFSB. If you don't increase TDP/TDC then your bus speed can go up but your multiplier might go down when fully loaded so you won't get the full benefit of your overclock. Send me a PM if you need to know more about how to properly test for full turbo boost at full load.
One last thing. Many 3D gaming benchmarks don't correct for this problem so you can't trust their results when using SetFSB if your laptop has this timing issue. I believe the 3DMark series corrects for this problem and can be trusted.
Quixzlizx said:My desktop has that microstuttering problem (especially in Firefox), but it didn't appear that the cores were parking/unparking themselves. I was really hoping that was the problem.
Questions: What games do you intend to play? I mean, games that the GPU must be able to run decently.sillymonkey321 said:http://www.jr.com/asus/pe/ASU_UL30VTX1K/
So would i be crazy to buy this? My other options seem to be Dell's M11x, Lenovo Thinkpad x120e with amd fushion 350 or waiting for more sandy bridge laptops to come out and see if their prices are around $500.
Primary wants: Good battery life, lightweight, doesn't get too hot on the bottom since i want to read digital comics on it instead of buying a tablet.
Secondary want: Some decent gaming, which is why i might pass up the Thinkpad with ATI's integrated 6310 in favor of the linked Asus optional G210M
Thoughts before i jump?
K.Jack said:Can't put up the new thread until my new machine comes. This shitty tablet's wireless card can't stay connected for 3 minutes at a time, and I'm just done dealing with it.
Going dark until next week.
I'm truly sorry for all of the delays. Please bear with me. My health and technology are failing me simultaneously. My new notebook will be here early-to-mid next week. Getting the thread up will be priority #1, by a huge margin.
Questions: What games do you intend to play? I mean, games that the GPU must be able to run decently.
What is your weight/size/budget limit?
Honestly, I've take the M11x by a huuuuge margin, over every machine you mentioned. The 210M just isn't getting it done, in 2011. The Core 2 Duo M11x is a good buy.
BoobPhysics101 said:I'd wait. The 460M is a good card, but if you wait a month or two you might be able to get a 6970M equipped machine for about the same price.
poppabk said:You mean like it will accept an incoming HDMI signal from a bluray player or something and display it on screen. If so I would be fairly confident in saying no.
The 6970M is a significant step up from the 460M. For mobile GPU power it is second only to the 485M, and only by a few percent. The downside is, it's only available in a few specialist models right now (Clevo & Alienware).cleveridea said:Is that a new generation, or just a bit faster? I dont't need care about 10-15% performance boost but would if its more than that, or especially if it supports stuff 460M doesnt.
K.Jack said:Can't put up the new thread until my new machine comes. This shitty tablet's wireless card can't stay connected for 3 minutes at a time, and I'm just done dealing with it.
Going dark until next week.
I'm truly sorry for all of the delays. Please bear with me. My health and technology are failing me simultaneously. My new notebook will be here early-to-mid next week. Getting the thread up will be priority #1, by a huge margin.
Questions: What games do you intend to play? I mean, games that the GPU must be able to run decently.
What is your weight/size/budget limit?
Honestly, I've take the M11x by a huuuuge margin, over every machine you mentioned. The 210M just isn't getting it done, in 2011. The Core 2 Duo M11x is a good buy.
Parts said:Hey, newbie to laptops here. I have a gaming pc that runs everything fine, but I will be spending the next year in the USofA and so will be unable to take it with me. Therefore, new laptop buying time! I can't even imagine going a year without games though, so is there anything that would run things well while at the same time being in the price range of around 400 to 500 pounds? I'm asking for a lot from that price range I'm guessing, but never hurts to try. Thanks!![]()
sillymonkey321 said:Is that the same processor in the M11x and the Asus thin and light? Right now i'm rocking a Dell Inspiron E1505 with a ATI Mobility 1400x, 7lbs weight, the bottom gets so hot it hurts my legs if i were to ever put it on my lap when NOT gaming on it, and gets 2 hrs of battery life. I want the exact opposite of what i've grown to hate.
My plan was to buy a laptop for college/comic reading/actually sitting on my lap comfortably. I was originally looking at the cheapest Asus netbooks for $250 since that's what i wanted to spend on a cheap work book, but they didn't have an HDMI output and only included Windows Starter. Then i went looking at the Thinkpad for $440 and maybe some games. Later I rationalized that the Asus i linked to was better than that because it has a 13.3 inch screen, a better graphics card, and longer battery life/and gaming through my Steam backlog of 5 year old RTS/RPGs, Rome Total War, Amnesia, Spellforce, etc along with GOG.com older RPGs.. The high end gaming i would be happy with on the Asus i linked to would perhaps be The Witcher. I've never really played that many PC games so i have a ton of older options to occupy my gaming laptop time. Would the Asus be able to run those games well?
It's a bit faster than the 9800 GT.FromTheFuture said:Hey guys, I have next to no knowledge about laptops so I'll ask here: how does the new MacBook Pro 15" with the better graphics card hold up? I need a laptop for several reasons, but obviously gaming would be a big plus. Sorry if this has been answered somewhere already.
SS4Gogita said:I actually feel like a bit of a dummy now because I went back to the site where I originally saw the coupon, and further down the list I saw another one that saved even more. D'oh!
The NB8095 coupon brought that model down to $787.24 before taxes, and for me came out to $838.42 total.
ElectricBlanketFire said:Is there a good article or source that gives some instructions on what to do immediately after purchasing a new computer to make it run at optimal performance? (getting rid of bloatware, changing settings, etc...)
I haven't had a non-admin controlled computer since 2006 and I've lost much of my know-how along the way.
The 6970M is 2.5x the speed of the 540M.Velinos said:I have been looking at a laptop to replace my desktop that is starting to show its age (1st generation Core 2 Duo with an ATI 5770). I am looking for something that will play The Witcher 2 and can handle game development. I have been looking at the following:
Sager NP5170
Sager NP8170
Is there any real difference between the two models? I ask because I find it hard to justify spending an extra $750 to upgrade from a 540M to a 6970 video card.
K.Jack said:The 6970M is 2.5x the speed of the 540M.
It comes down to:
Do you want High/Max settings @ 1080p w/ 30-60fps
Do you want Medium settings @ 1368x768 w/30fps
Reality says, The Witcher 2 calls for an 8800 GT at the minimum. The 8800 GT is 45% faster than the GT 540M.
It'll run, no doubt but if playing Witcher 2 is a major reason for buying this machine, then you're going to want something with a beefier GPU.Kenka said:The 335M inside the Alienware mx11 was able to run Mass Effect 2 at 45-50 FPS @ 720p although it is way below recommended specs. The 540M is more powerful than it and The Witcher 2 may not be much more ressource-demanding as Mass Effect 2. I guess, he may give it a chance, you never know. Best thing : waiting for benchmarks.
Godslay said:Hey guys, I'm fairly lost when it comes to laptops. I've been trying to catch up. I missed out on a great XPS deal, so I'm back to looking around.
I have found this laptop, but I'm not sure if it is a good deal for the price. Is there anything better for the same range ($700 - $999?).
http://www.amazon.com/N53SV-XE1-15-6-Inch-Versatile-Entertainment-Aluminum/dp/B004KNVK84/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1303048579&sr=1-2
Really, I just want to be able to use Visual Studio 10, VMWare Workstation, as well as run StarCraft 2. Thoughts?