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Ellis Kim said:
Hey Laptop GAF, I'm looking to get a laptop with a budget of around $700, more or less--no more than 1k, though.

I need a decent screen size (so I guess 15-19"?), and a vertical resolution that is above 1k px (so I guess 1920x1080 and whatever's immediately below that).

I plan on getting some sort of Cintiq tablet somewhere down the line to use with this, so I definitely need some sort of external 2-screen display video adaptor.

I'm not too concerned hdd-wise, I don't plan on using it to watch and store space-hoggin videos or something. If I were to do that I'll just get an external. I imagine a 320gb (or whatever's cheapest but reasonable) would be nice. Not terribly pressed about SSDs, either.

I really want to use this immediately for graphic-design related work, but also as a solid gaming PC.

If anyone can point me in the right direction, that'd be great.
$1k is a bit low if you want a decent screen size. You can find plenty of 11" options in your price range if you want to game on it. You may find a handful of options at 15" around 1k if you look around, but anything larger will be highly unlikely.
 
I'm thinking about getting a new laptop for gaming. Currently have a Dell XPS M1530 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz and GeForce 8600m GT.

I'm looking for something below £1000 that has at least a 15" screen and can play games like Stalker CoP and Civ V at higher settings, and possibly The Witcher 2 at whatever settings possible.

Current ones I'm looking at are:

Asus N73SV-TZ044V for £913
Display: 17.3"FHD TFT (1920x1080, Colour Shine)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM (2GHz)
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M
Storage: 1TB (500GBx2) (5400rpm)
Memory: 6144MB (2048x3)

Or a Dell XPS 15 for just under £90 more the same CPU, smaller 15"6 screen, 650GB HDD but with a 2GB GeForce 540M rather than the 1GB one in the Asus.

Or a Dell XPS 17 with a 17.3" HD+ WLED True-Life screen, Intel core i5 2410M 2.3GHz, 500GB HDD and a 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M for £988.
 
phillax said:
for both games?
Yes.

Mafro said:
Or a Dell XPS 17 with a 17.3" HD+ WLED True-Life screen, Intel core i5 2410M 2.3GHz, 500GB HDD and a 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M for £988.
Definitely THIS one. The GT 555M is around 40% faster than the 540M, and the latter is below any requirement which asks for at least an 8800 GT.

But, then again, that dual core is lacking. Hmmm...
 
Mafro said:
Or a Dell XPS 17 with a 17.3" HD+ WLED True-Life screen, Intel core i5 2410M 2.3GHz, 500GB HDD and a 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M for £988.
Hey, how are you doing your config?

I'm getting 2630QM, 555M, 3GB RAM, and 9-cell battery, for £968.99

Buy this config, and worry about everything else later.
 
K.Jack said:
Yes.


Definitely THIS one. The GT 555M is around 40% faster than the 540M, and the latter is below any requirement which asks for at least an 8800 GT.

But, then again, that dual core is lacking. Hmmm...

What about when playing Deus Ex: HR.
 
K.Jack said:
Hey, how are you doing your config?

I'm getting 2630QM, 555M, 3GB RAM, and 9-cell battery, for £968.99

Buy this config, and worry about everything else later.
Hmmm...I have no idea what I did to get price actually.

I could possibly stretch to the 2620M processor and 4GB RAM for £1088. Will that be a big difference?
 
Router said:
Just got a DV6. i7 model... Runs crysis2 damn well. Way better than I expected, im very impressed.
Thanks for the impressions! K.Jack recommended that model to me and now im sold.
 
Mafro said:
Hmmm...I have no idea what I did to get price actually.

I could possibly stretch to the 2620M processor and 4GB RAM for £1088. Will that be a big difference?
Whoa. Forget the 2620M, as it's a scam. I can't believe Dell actually charges more for that crappy dual core, when the 4-core 2630QM eats it for breakfast, at a lower price.

dragonflys545 said:
How about neither? When you get over $1,600, accepting any less than a 6970M or 485M is criminal. You need to be targeting Clevo machines.

And on that note, word has it that the 6990M will be revealed tomorrow, available in machines for preorder. Wait a couple days.
 
K.Jack said:
How about neither? When you get over $1,600, accepting any less than a 6970M or 485M is criminal. You need to be targeting Clevo machines.

And on that note, word has it that the 6990M will be revealed tomorrow, available in machines for preorder. Wait a couple days.


Thanks a lot for the reply, I guess i can wait a couple of days.
 
The 6990M is officially here.

6000M.jpg


Alienware M17x and M18x, Clevo P170HM and P150HM

Pricing not publicly available for the Clevo yet. I can say it's just over the price of the 6970M.
 
K.Jack said:
The 6990M is officially here.

Alienware M17x and M18x, Clevo P170HM and P150HM

Pricing not publicly available for the Clevo yet. I can say it's just over the price of the 6970M.
I don't follow laptop releases too closely, but will those laptops with the new card come out before the end of this year? Am looking to buy a new laptop before mid-December.
 
Ken said:
I don't follow laptop releases too closely, but will those laptops with the new card come out before the end of this year? Am looking to buy a new laptop before mid-December.
The begins shipping in Alienwares by the last week of July, and for Clevos in August.
 
K.Jack said:
The 6990M is officially here.

6000M.jpg


Alienware M17x and M18x, Clevo P170HM and P150HM

Pricing not publicly available for the Clevo yet. I can say it's just over the price of the 6970M.


so it's really just an unlocked 6970m hmm.. why's the 6790m listed has only 1GB vram, i thought they come with 2GB vram nowadays.
 
What's GAF's opinion on the M14x? For $1300 I could get

Intel® Core i7 2630QM 2.0GHz (2.9GHz w/Turbo Boost)
1.5GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M w/ Optimus
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz

Keep in mind this off the Canadian site, but ordering through the US might be an option depending on how good the deal is. That's about as high as I'm willing to spend, and I don't want something too big. It's mainly for university work with some gaming on the side, so portability is a factor.

Are there any better competitors (price, performance, etc) that I should consider?
 
What do you guys think of this deal?
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...Search.aspx?rn=1107&SC=&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh

I'm actually getting it more for portability/going back to school for comp sci. The battery life and being able to play some games is what makes it so attractive to me. I have a pretty powerful desktop, so I'm not looking for something that's gonna make my eyes bleed.

edit: or is it worth blowing a little more cash for
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...Search.aspx?rn=6575&SC=&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh
 
Ahh......just found this thread.....

So, now that the 6990m has been released, do you think it will be available in a laptop for 1500USD or less by the time Battlefield 3 comes out?

And how well would a rig like that run BF3, anyway?


Also, for Battlefield 3, which card do you think it would be better to go with, nVidia 580M or ATI 6990M?
 
Just wondering, does anyone have one of the Dell XPS laptops with the 3D displays? http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-l702x/pd

The only two screen options on the XPS 17 customisation are either a normal 1600x900, or the 3D-enabled 1920x1080 screen. I'd much prefer 1080p since my current XPS M1530 does 1920x1200 and I don't want a big step down from that, but it comes at an added cost of £280 for the display and an extra £30 for the 3D graphics card plus £109 for the 3D glasses (which I'd buy at a later date).
 
Kleegamefan said:
Also, for Battlefield 3, which card do you think it would be better to go with, nVidia 580M or ATI 6990M?

Since it's basically a new engine I think it will be impossible to tell for sure until people get their hands on it (i.e. the PC beta).
 
Lanbeast said:
What do you guys think of this deal?
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...Search.aspx?rn=1107&SC=&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh

I'm actually getting it more for portability/going back to school for comp sci. The battery life and being able to play some games is what makes it so attractive to me. I have a pretty powerful desktop, so I'm not looking for something that's gonna make my eyes bleed.

edit: or is it worth blowing a little more cash for
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...Search.aspx?rn=6575&SC=&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh
Links don't work for me.

Kleegamefan said:
Ahh......just found this thread.....

So, now that the 6990m has been released, do you think it will be available in a laptop for 1500USD or less by the time Battlefield 3 comes out?

And how well would a rig like that run BF3, anyway?

Also, for Battlefield 3, which card do you think it would be better to go with, nVidia 580M or ATI 6990M?
1. 6990M is going to cost you $1600.
2. Probably not max, but high settings at 1080p sounds good.
3. The 580M is 2x the price of 6990M, and it's slower. The 6990M wins by default.
 
Looking to buy a laptop but the only game requirement I have for it are RTS. Games like Starcarft 2, Civ 5, Dawn of War, and maybe the Total War series. Is there any machine out there that fits this requirement for a reasonable price? Between say $400 to $900/$1000? Or am I out of luck?

I'm hoping since RTS have different requirements and benchmark differently it might be easier to find a machine that runs those well but perhaps might not other genres such as FPS.

RTS is the genre I'm concerned about as I plan on doing any future gaming on consoles. Just would like something smaller. The laptop would be used also for work (going back and forth) and general computing. If I upgrade my desktop again I'm going to have to go with a new case, etc and really just don't feel like doing it at this point in time. It's fine for the games I have for it now and I'm content with that. I'll still be kicking that around but it won't be used as much as it is now and might even get put to the side until I get more space for it.

Thanks
 
Which laptops/graphics cards should I consider if i want to play most current games well at high or max settings (Vindictus, Dawn of War 2, Witcher 2 maybe, Tera Online, Starcraft 2, LotRO)? I don't care much for Battlefield 3 but being able to play it on medium to high with good FPS would be a bonus too. Looking to only spend under $1500 but I'm open to options above $1500.

Thanks.
 
XPS 15 - L502X System Details
Intel Core i7 2630QM 2.0GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, XPS L502X
500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM), 4 GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
8X DVD +/- RW Drive, NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M 1GB graphics
$779

Base Alienware M11x R2 Laptop
Intel Core i5-520UM (3M Cache, 1.866 GHz Max Turbo Frequency)
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
Hard Disk Drive 250 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Memory 4 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
Video 1 GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 335 M
(Doesn't have a disc drive)
$749

I've been looking into getting an M11x (on somewhat of a budget), but have recently been looking into similar options. I don't hear as many good things about Dell's XPS, but is this is a situation where the Alienware name is what drives up the cost?
 
I think a lot of questions could be avoided in this thread if the OP had something similar to what they have over in the PC thread. There, they posted different tiers of capable pc builds so people could see what a competent, luxurious, and an amazing pc looked like in terms of specs and costs. Something similar could alleviate many of the questions people have about laptops. Personally, I've had to spend several hours looking at benchmarks from sites whose credibility I'm uncertain of and wondering what alternatives I have without much of a base of knowledge to go on.
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
I think a lot of questions could be avoided in this thread if the OP had something similar to what they over in the PC thread. There, they posted different tiers of capable pc builds so people could see what a competent, luxurious, and an amazing pc looked like in terms of specs and costs. Something similar could alleviate many of the questions people have about laptops. Personally, I've had to spend several hours looking at benchmarks from sites whose credibility I'm uncertain of and wondering what alternatives I have without much of a base of knowledge to go on.

Agreed. I built my own desktop, but this is the first time I've even looked at laptop hardware. It's a whole different world.
 
This is the Dell XPS 17 I'll hopefully be getting:

Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz
6144MB (1x2GB, 1x4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel SDRAM
Keyboard Backlit UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M Graphics Card - 3D Capable
Hard Drive 1TB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Dual HDD - (2x500GB)
Optical Devices DVD+/-RW (DVD, CD read and write)
Wireless Networking Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1000 (EUR)
LCD 17.3"(44 cm) FHD 3D WLED TL (1920x1080) 1080p
Windows 7 64-bit
The 6GB RAM and 1TB HDD was a free upgrade offer Dell currently have. Also got £474 off due to another of their offers, £180 with a discount code and 6% cashback with Quidco (around £65). Also got MS Office Home & Student 2010 for free as well, and I bought a new Creative Fatal1ty headset since the headphone wire for my current set is broken.
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
I think a lot of questions could be avoided in this thread if the OP had something similar to what they have over in the PC thread. There, they posted different tiers of capable pc builds so people could see what a competent, luxurious, and an amazing pc looked like in terms of specs and costs. Something similar could alleviate many of the questions people have about laptops. Personally, I've had to spend several hours looking at benchmarks from sites whose credibility I'm uncertain of and wondering what alternatives I have without much of a base of knowledge to go on.
Honestly, I was working on a new thread, then became extremely ill, and I kinda lost sight on what was going on with it.

Let's do this. Tell me what you think would be necessary for a decent OP. Just organize laptops by price? Does it need a section dedicated to mobile GPU specs/benchmarks?
 
K.Jack said:
Honestly, I was working on a new thread, then became extremely ill, and I kinda lost sight on what was going on with it.

Let's do this. Tell me what you think would be necessary for a decent OP. Just organize laptops by price? Does it need a section dedicated to mobile GPU specs/benchmarks?

I'm not sure that anything other than a price-to-performace ratio would be ideal. As an example, Ive been looking at the Dell's Alienware line and comparing them to Dell's own XPS laptops and I honestly can't see enough of a difference to justify the markup on the Alienware Laptops. If the OP were to be done by price, though, you'll have the possibility of an all Alienware OP.

Again, im just starting to scratch the surface of understanding what a decent gaming laptop is and that's because I've been spending a large portion of my free time researching each product. It would be nice to see what others, who have had more experience with gaming laptops and are more knowledgeable about them, have to say about the different brands and their bang-for-your-buck ratios.

I foresee this thread becoming more active as people tire of current gen consoles and want an easy transition over to the world of PC gaming, with games such as BF3 looming on the horizon. As interest rises so will questions about what to get and what is good. A solid OP would definitely go a long way to help direct people to what laptop serves their best interests and help keep the thread from getting clogged with redundant questions.
 
Pretty much just performance organized by price with K.Jack's personal recommendations in each tier would help A LOT.

And, for extra awesomeness, if you could predict performance in the heavy-hitter games that most people care about, namely Crysis 2, Starcraft 2 and whatever else people post most often about would surely cut the repeat questions down even further :)
 
ChefRamsay said:
Pretty much just performance organized by price with K.Jack's personal recommendations in each tier would help A LOT.

And, for extra awesomeness, if you could predict performance in the heavy-hitter games that most people care about, namely Crysis 2, Starcraft 2 and whatever else people post most often about would surely cut the repeat questions down even further :)

NotebookCheck has a very extensive list comparing frame rates at multiple settings. Since the GPU is almost always the bottleneck, especially with laptops, this would be a useful link to have in the OP.
 
My brother has just ordered an Asus G53SX SZ002V with the following specs (sorry, it's a danish site but the basic specs should come across): http://www.pricerunner.dk/pi/27-2729929/Baerbare/ASUS-G53SX-SZ002V-Produkt-Info


It's 1900usd (remember that we have higher taxes in DK so you might be able to buy for just 1700usd in the US).

The retailer have just emailed that the laptop won't be in stock till 8/2/2011, which means that we have a little extra time to figure out if this is indeed the right choice. He's looking for a gaming laptop and is willing to spend ~2000usd. What other options would you guys recommend over this (can't be Alienware :/)?
 
decon said:
My brother has just ordered an Asus G53SX SZ002V with the following specs (sorry, it's a danish site but the basic specs should come across): http://www.pricerunner.dk/pi/27-2729929/Baerbare/ASUS-G53SX-SZ002V-Produkt-Info


It's 1900usd (remember that we have higher taxes in DK so you might be able to buy for just 1700usd in the US).

The retailer have just emailed that the laptop won't be in stock till 8/2/2011, which means that we have a little extra time to figure out if this is indeed the right choice. He's looking for a gaming laptop and is willing to spend ~2000usd. What other options would you guys recommend over this (can't be Alienware :/)?

I would look into a Sager 8130/8150, you can get the same specs in a lighter (and possibly cheaper) laptop. The Asus gaming laptops are very solid but pretty weighty.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how Deus Ex HR would run on a GTX 560m?
 
Bear said:
I would look into a Sager 8130/8150, you can get the same specs in a lighter (and possibly cheaper) laptop. The Asus gaming laptops are very solid but pretty weighty.

If I like Asus based on previous Asus laptops, and don't mind the weight, would I be better off with an Asus or a Sager for gaming?

I was configuring a Sager 8130 but I'm not sure how good this setup is:

- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included)

Edit: Actually, looking more at video cards I'm probably better off waiting for that 6990m card in a few months than just settling for the 560m, right?

Is the difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz RAM something most people would not notice?

Also, I have a copy of Windows 7 that I used to reformat my current laptop and used the CD Key on that laptop. Is it possible for me to use it again on a new laptop so I could save some money buy not including W7 pre-installed?
 
Ken said:
If I like Asus based on previous Asus laptops, and don't mind the weight, would I be better off with an Asus or a Sager for gaming?

They're nearly identical, so it depends on physical preference I guess. Both are known for very good build quality and have good cooling systems.

Sagers are GPU upgradable, though, so if you plan on keeping it for a while that's something to keep in mind.

Ken said:
Edit: Actually, looking more at video cards I'm probably better off waiting for that 6990m card in a few months than just settling for the 560m, right?

Is the difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz RAM something most people would not notice?

For the RAM, 1600 MHz memory seems to have no practical benefits unless you plan to overclock. Other than that, 1333 MHz performs identically while gaming.

As for waiting, the 6990 is going to cost a lot more, but it's also one hell of a powerful card. If you get a Sager 8150 you can upgrade it yourself sometime down the line. I think you can do the same with the 8130 if you buy a new PSU.
 
Bear said:
They're nearly identical, so it depends on physical preference I guess. Both are known for very good build quality and have good cooling systems.

Sagers are GPU upgradable, though, so if you plan on keeping it for a while that's something to keep in mind.



For the RAM, 1600 MHz memory seems to have no practical benefits unless you plan to overclock. Other than that, 1333 MHz performs identically while gaming.

As for waiting, the 6990 is going to cost a lot more, but it's also one hell of a powerful card. If you get a Sager 8150 you can upgrade it yourself sometime down the line. I think you can do the same with the 8130 if you buy a new PSU.
Oh, I had no idea Sager GPUs could be upgraded. It's not too hard is it?

Actually, the earliest I would be possibly be ordering a laptop is late September so maybe some news and options come up before then.
 
I bought myself a Dell XPS 17 today, managed to get it for about £780 with a 10% voucher and 5% cashback:

2nd generation Intel Core i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz
Display : 17.3in HD+ WLED True-Life (1600x900)
Memory : 6GB (1X4GB + 1X2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel 1 S
Hard Drive : 1TB (2x500GB) Serial ATA (7200RPM) Dual HDD 1 S
Graphics : 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M Graphics Card


I probably should've asked here first but my voucher was running out! Anyway, will be this be any cop for light gaming? I don't mind super AA and all that, just wondering if it'll run newish games at a decent resolution? My current laptop has a Mobility Radeon 5470 which can barely run Aero :lol

Edit: Also, does anyone have any idea how PCSX2 might run on it? I tried FFX on my current laptop and it couldn't keep up even at the default res with speed hacks :/
 
Sordid said:
I bought myself a Dell XPS 17 today, managed to get it for about £780 with a 10% voucher and 5% cashback:

2nd generation Intel Core i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz
Display : 17.3in HD+ WLED True-Life (1600x900)
Memory : 6GB (1X4GB + 1X2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel 1 S
Hard Drive : 1TB (2x500GB) Serial ATA (7200RPM) Dual HDD 1 S
Graphics : 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M Graphics Card


I probably should've asked here first but my voucher was running out! Anyway, will be this be any cop for light gaming? I don't mind super AA and all that, just wondering if it'll run newish games at a decent resolution? My current laptop has a Mobility Radeon 5470 which can barely run Aero :lol

Edit: Also, does anyone have any idea how PCSX2 might run on it? I tried FFX on my current laptop and it couldn't keep up even at the default res with speed hacks :/
Any reason you went with 3gbs over 1gb on the 555? I've always thought that more than a gig was only really useful at high resolutions, something laptops aren't exactly know for.
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
Any reason you went with 3gbs over 1gb on the 555? I've always thought that more than a gig was only really useful at high resolutions, something laptops aren't exactly know for.

I thought it was overkill too but it was the only option when I was customising it, it was either a 1 GB GeForce 540M or a 3GB GeForce 555M iirc. I'm not sure what type of RAM it is though, I'm guessing GDDR5 is a lot better than DDR3 for graphics cards?
 
Gonna ask for recommendations here. My current laptop is awful. It overheats, S/PDIF doesn't work due driver issues (driver/windows conflict possibly, very weird) and doesn't meet SWTOR system requirements. Oh and this has 32-bit Vista, 64-bit Win7 would be nice.

So, i need cheap (preferrably under 600€, under 500€ would be even better...) laptop with 64-bitWin7, and it should be able to run EVE online, SWTOR and maybe Tribes Ascend (not required) for a few years just fine. I think i'll be skipping most other games or leaving them for 360.
EDIT Overclocking the GPU will be considered
EDIT2 Battery longevity, laptop size are pretty much non-issues.
ASUS X52DR-EX059V caught my eye. Would that fulfill me requirements satisfactorily?
EDIT3, let's add Starcraft 2 to the list. Say, medium settings at 30fps consistently. I can drop a detail or two though, such as turning of shadows.
 
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