Gamers Nexus: NVIDIA Dirty Manipulation of Reviews
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TrebleShot
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Disgusting. Watched the video earlier at least we have people making content like this, It impact the youtuber space more than the buyer. Most of us arent stupid enough to believe the marketing cycle, but imagine some less plugged in might.
Same ol G
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This is what you get when you act like you know it all.
These companies want to promote their new technologies and these so called reviewers only want to push a certain narrative, there comes a moment in time when these companies won't care about reviewers.
Almost the same shit Nintendo went trough no matter what they did they only got bad press, then they decided they don't need certain outlets anymore, no more E3 etc.
And last week we heard reviewers complaining they will not get a launch unit before launch, Nintendo doesn't believe they need those people to sell the system or else they made sure these people had units.
So if in a few years time these reviewers won't get early acces or test units all together, this behaviour is probably the reason.
These companies want to promote their new technologies and these so called reviewers only want to push a certain narrative, there comes a moment in time when these companies won't care about reviewers.
Almost the same shit Nintendo went trough no matter what they did they only got bad press, then they decided they don't need certain outlets anymore, no more E3 etc.
And last week we heard reviewers complaining they will not get a launch unit before launch, Nintendo doesn't believe they need those people to sell the system or else they made sure these people had units.
So if in a few years time these reviewers won't get early acces or test units all together, this behaviour is probably the reason.
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KuraiShidosha
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Why does this sound familiar. Something about a [H]... hmm...
peish
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What happened with pvr? Nvidia is great and innovative and cool.
Not sure if GN is throwing another of their stinking up the room shades, just because they (chose to) misread/over-reacted to real-world collaborations terms, and not just social media influencers saying nice things between themselves safe space
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winjer
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Because Nvidia has tried this crap several times, both with hardware reviewers and AIBs.
This is just the newest attempt from Nvidia.
MMaRsu
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When was this point in time where Nintendo only got bad press
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I saw this pop up in my notifications and watched it right away. It's not that I agree or disagree with them but they are reporting things that don't require that kind of opinion. And no matter how much of a fan I am of nvidia's products, I am not a fan of the practices and play not because I have sympathy for gamers nexus. Because they have been messing around with the consumer base that help build their reputation a little bit too much.
Now, I personally don't have driver issues with them but I have a couple of friends with 50 series cards who have had some of the black screen issues specifically.
As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I don't even have a 5090 which I was ready to buy day one, is the situation we have with availability of those cards. Something which I'm glad has played out the way it has. The only way I would even get one at this point is to heavily offset the cost by selling my 4090 and having a friend volunteer to get the founders edition which is the cheapest card. It's one of those things that I'm reluctant to buy but I am also not going to spend $3,000 or more on a stupid graphics card. It's already absurd enough to say I'm spending $2, 000 but that is the tier of performance I am in and luckily I can sell some of my current things to offset a majority of those costs.
These practices from Nvidia really are spitting in the face of the people who have helped make you. And I'm not going to be one of those internet people who just piles on that has no allegiance or even cares about Nvidia products. Those people are just as bad because they're clearly biased. I am a long time and video consumer who also feels disgruntled. We're in a bit of a rock and a hard place because they offer the best performance but certainly we can be critical of the company even if we enjoy the actual hardware. At the end of the day these are human decisions and things that influence policy. Oftentimes the engineers and people that make the products, who love making those products, are not really the ones to blame.
Now, I personally don't have driver issues with them but I have a couple of friends with 50 series cards who have had some of the black screen issues specifically.
As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I don't even have a 5090 which I was ready to buy day one, is the situation we have with availability of those cards. Something which I'm glad has played out the way it has. The only way I would even get one at this point is to heavily offset the cost by selling my 4090 and having a friend volunteer to get the founders edition which is the cheapest card. It's one of those things that I'm reluctant to buy but I am also not going to spend $3,000 or more on a stupid graphics card. It's already absurd enough to say I'm spending $2, 000 but that is the tier of performance I am in and luckily I can sell some of my current things to offset a majority of those costs.
These practices from Nvidia really are spitting in the face of the people who have helped make you. And I'm not going to be one of those internet people who just piles on that has no allegiance or even cares about Nvidia products. Those people are just as bad because they're clearly biased. I am a long time and video consumer who also feels disgruntled. We're in a bit of a rock and a hard place because they offer the best performance but certainly we can be critical of the company even if we enjoy the actual hardware. At the end of the day these are human decisions and things that influence policy. Oftentimes the engineers and people that make the products, who love making those products, are not really the ones to blame.
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Same ol G
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Look up the period before they began their Nintendo directs.When was this point in time where Nintendo only got bad press
Also in the GC era the GC was actually more powerful than PS2 in real life scenario's with a couple of things but the media kept spewing the max theoretical numbers in favor of Sony.
Nowadays we know GC was capabele of a few things PS2 could only dream and Vice versa but back then the media made it look like GC was weaker than PS2 which wasn't the case.
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peish
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As an Nvidia apologist, i dont see why they needed to hide 5060 drivers? Those are probably late, coming hot off the press. Because the state of 50 series drivers got bad and they had to pay attention to the already launched cards
5060 will make bank for them down the road as more lan shops and budget gamers seek to upgrade old , dead gpu
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Bojji
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How the fuck they didn't know that that 8GB will be reviewed like dogshit after 4060 and the difference between 4060 ti 8/16 in some games?
Now, 2 years later there are even MORE games that go out of vram even in 1080p...
xx60 GPU's should always match consoles memory pool, 1060 had 6GB when consoles had 5GB available for developers. 3060 had THE RIGHT AMOUNT of vram in 2021 - 12GB. Then they fucked up xx60 series in 2023 and now AGAIN in 2025...
And the best thing is that AMD that usually offers more vram than nvidia pulled the same move with 9060.
peish
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5060 is a good 299 card for today's gamers, what's there to hide? Drivers were probably late to conclude
- 25% More CUDA Cores
- Up To 25% Higher Raster Perf vs RTX 4060
- Same Memory Capacity
- Faster GDDR7 Memory (28 Gbps)
- More Bandwidth (+64%)
- 22% Higher power rating
- Same $299 MSRP as RTX 4060
Bojji
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It's not a good gpu with crippling amounts of memory. It fucking sucks plying 2025 games:
And there are MANY, MANY more games from 2024 and 2023 that behave like that, and this is fucking 1080p. notice playable framerates on 16GB version and a fucking mess on 8GB version. 5060 will be a worse version of 5060ti 8GB.
PeteBull
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Bro, u comparing 5060 to a turd of a card that is 4060, its like saying some1 isnt as evil as politican so he/she is decent human being, nope, they can still be godawful person, just compared to peak nastiness they are bit less nasty.
Bojji
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What's the point of all these increases when many games won't even fit into memory and run ~12FPS, lol.
Why the fuck they didn't just wait for 3GB chips and release 5060 with 12GB is beyond me... I guess they need something for the super series.
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peish
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It's not a good gpu with crippling amounts of memory. It fucking sucks plying 2025 games:
And there are MANY, MANY more games from 2024 and 2023 that behave like that, and this is fucking 1080p. notice playable framerates on 16GB version and a fucking mess on 8GB version. 5060 will be a worse version of 5060ti 8GB.
Since when do x60 cards expected to play at ultra max RT nightmare epic settings?
Bojji
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winjer
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It's the exact same architecture as other 5000 series GPUs. So it's the same drivers.
It just changes a handful of files for Windows to recognize the GPU.
Chances are people can force an older driver from the 5060Ti, to install through the device manager and it will work fine.
So no, it's not about some complicated drivers.
And even if it was, Nvidia has then 5060 planned for many months already. They got sampled by TSMC a long time ago. They had more than enough time.
Don't try to make excuses for a big corporation, that has no respect for gamers.
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GHG
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PeteBull
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Exactly, that is card nvidia launched with 8gigs of vram, for 379msrp(real one, not like current msrps+ 20-30%=real streetprice) back in mid of 2016 FFS:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Specs
NVIDIA GP104, 1683 MHz, 1920 Cores, 120 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR5, 2002 MHz, 256 bit
Time to up vram to at least 12gigs in the 60 series since card gotta last minimum to 60xx series launch so 2027-2028...
Hell we got 12 gigs 3060 back in early 2021, thats over 4 years ago, and guess what, ppl will keep those 3060 till 2027-2028 with 0 problems coz their card isnt handcuiffed by small vram pool. If we assume 5060 is 20-25% stronger( wont be more, 5060ti 8gigs is 33% stronger so thats the cap), then why we getting vram cut, unless its known ngreedia tactic- planned obsolence.
Nvidia is making sure card with msrp of 300$(streetprice likely 350-400 depending on the model) launched in mid of 2025 gonna be 100% needed to be replaced by begining of next console gen, at best end of cross-gen period so before 2030- by then u wont be able to play new demanding games in 1080p dlss performance/ultraperfomance with all settings on low/lowest(aka those games will look buttugly vs even what new console owners gonna get) simply coz game wont even start- we not talking low quality visuals/low fps/hitching even- straight out nope.
Thats ur brand new 350$ card u bought mid 2025 vs next gen game:
peish
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I see the issues is 5060ti 8gb, it shouldn't exist in diy markets, its for the oem prebuilts
5060 is still a good upgrade over 4060 and anyone buying these standalone will know how far these goes, e-sports, streaming , older games, some cuda AI diffusion, console ports settings
I am saying that youtubers conspiracies about Nvidia hiding drivers feeling ashamed of 5060, is so unpossible
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winjer
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Neither the 5060 8GB, nor the 9060XT 8GB should exist in 2025.
Plenty of games are already struggling with 8GB. And AI workloads require good amounts of vram, unless you want to use only the most basic LLMs.
Bojji
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But without Physx. You won't be able to play with console like quality textures in many games. You also won't be able to use FG/MFG/RT (so all this shit that nvidia hypes up) in many games because it costs vram.
Useless GPU, piece of shit card.
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MMaRsu
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peish
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I also find the whole deprecated 32bit physx amusing. Nobody cared about it for so long, now i see redditors putting dual gpus inside their crowded case, for what? Just to shove it to Nvidia?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Bojji
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You say "play older games". There is joy in playing older games at max settings, 4k, HDR etc. But without physx support you won't be able to see Mirror's Edge in full glory for example. And this game has better physics effects than 99% of games today. Batman games (outside of AK) and few more...
PeteBull
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They wanna make even more money, bro, strategy is clear- sell xx60 model that gets obselete fast, and make buck on not informed casual customer once again, keep repeating= pure profit.
When some1 wanna buy 5070ti and up u can be sure in most cases person is well informed and knows what he is buying, 5060 tho- thats full on casual market where even the names of the cards are like black magic to majority of customers- those are easily deceived and scammed, and there is tons of them= perfect target
diffusionx
Gold Member
NVIDIA wants to push a narrative namely that their GPUs are better than they are or that the 5060 is better than a 4090 or whatever ludicrous thing they claimed when they announced it. To do that they need the 4x framegen so they are demanding that reviewers focus on it. it's very underhanded because these GPUs are really not a very good upgrade over last gen and their claims are lies and were quickly exposed as such
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Same ol G
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Yes obviously, when you keep spreading lies, who else to blame for spreading lies?Hilarious you blame the gaming press for any of this
Same ol G
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Yes i understand and the fact that they refuse is precisely my point, in a few years nobody is bitching about raw performance anymore cause it doesn't matter, new techniques change a lot about how stuff should be optimized.
This whole debacle will look ridiculous in a few years.
MMaRsu
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What lies bro? Spreading lies?
Same ol G
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Not everybody is interested in the latest games, these cards are capable if you don't need 4k res 120fps in the latest COD.
Same ol G
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Do your research if you wanna know i'm not here to educate you, use Google or Chat GPT if you don't know where to look.
winjer
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Jensen, is that you?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Then why the fuck would you get the latest cards?
Astray
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It feels to me like Nvidia wants to turn PC HW reviewers into the equivalent of a game journalist.. Someone who can only get access via coloring inside the corporate lines and no other way, this way you can manipulate these outlet through leveraging their access to your products.
Them wanting a "preview" of the 5060 is indicative of this too.
Them wanting a "preview" of the 5060 is indicative of this too.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Stop crying because the PS2 was more succesful than the Gamecube. Nobody said the PS2 was 'stronger' in HW than the Gamecube.
I didnt even own a PS2 for the longest time, and played on the cube for a long time.
Theres no need to 'research' anything through shitty AI, I lived through that generation and there was no 'spreading lies' like your talking about. Grow up already.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Part of the problem of access based journalism. If your revenue depends on content you cannot produce without access led conversely, your users will flock to a site that is able to do a pre-launch preview to satiate their preorder of new product to consume desires regardless of whether this website is pushing propaganda from the manufacturer / publisher or not… well you have a problem…
What we can do is to follow, watch, share, even monetarily support this creators that have good quality content and are not following PR orders… so that they are still around and can make a living off of it. Either that or well, not sure what…
IllegalLemon
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PowerVR? You mean Imagination Technologies? Because the PowerVR trademark belongs to them.
Same ol G
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Because people build new PC's, my younger brother just build a new PC, he's still looking for a GPU but he plays games like gtav and some racing games.
You don't need the fastest gpu for that but it's not like he can buy a 1080 in the store.
Same ol G
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