DenogginizerOS
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As does the WiiU, the X360, the PS3, the Wii mini, the Vita, the 3DS, and the 2DS.
GameStop sure seems to be pushing the Xbone hard...
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Yes, that is quite a list of consoles there.
You guys didn't pay attention to the PS3 vs X360 lineups these last three years, huh?
breakfuss
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Even if this nonsense were true, why should it bother you? Microsoft is in cahoots with GS now? This, in addition to the gaming press. God forbid GS try to sell what they actually have in stock.
I didn't realize people could have such deep and disturbing complexes about their platform of choice. You are upset that GS is trying to move Xboxes. As if that's wrong of them, lololol. Sad!
I didn't realize people could have such deep and disturbing complexes about their platform of choice. You are upset that GS is trying to move Xboxes. As if that's wrong of them, lololol. Sad!
DenogginizerOS
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I agree, but it is unusual for a system that is hyped as much as the Xbox One that has been out less than two months to have this much inventory. I am not associating anything with its availability other than it just being unexpected. NPD for December and January should be very telling.
ultratruman
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Correlation doesn't imply causation, but you can't have one without the other. It does fit the current narrative formed by NPD, Amazon charts and first-hand accounts from people in retail of a significant sales disparity between the PS4 and Xbox One.
jakonovski
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Remember kids, us Scandinavians can't even buy the XBone, all so that you can poke fun at your Gamestop!
What? Sonys history shows consitency and proves that they are in it for the long run. Given this fact, i have faith in the promise of the PS4 - and all it's unannounced games.
Was my post unclear, or am I misunderstanding something?
That Wont Fit In There
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My GameStop's pushing them too not that hard though. Supposedly they're not selling as fast as they hoped.
If Sony was flooding the market with PS4s we'd have a comparable situation.
At 500$ it's expected I guess. What a dumb decision by MS lol
NPD don't show significant sales disparaty between PS4 and Xbox One. Numbers are only until november 30.
About Amazon, as far as I know, Xbox One sold out several times in december.
But still xbone seems available more than the ps4 . A great mystery.
what sold-out?!?!? Xbones are available in fucking everywhere
Microsoft is shipping more consoles (Sony has more territories to cover).
Demand is propably lower than PS4 too, with doesn't mean low demand and doesn't mean lower sales because of PS4 supply.
He said Expected. Not what is actually happening.
Maybe. We don't know where the ceiling for PS4 demand is. It hasn't been reached yet.
I know I can't expect any store to do this (They do want to sell consoles after all, I guess its more online websites I'm not liking more atm), but how they seem to just be ignoring how the X1 is an inferior, more expensive, bigger machine. It just really annoys me how they try and make it seem an X1 is a legitimate choice compared to a PS4. The only people who are going to get an X1 are people who just want both, hate Sony for [X reason] or just pure love MS/Xbox exclusive games, in which case nothing the website can say will change that anyway.
In fact its quite funny, the only thing websites have the power to do is sway people over to PS4 really... I don't see how if someone can read the truth, (PS4 is more powerful, cheaper, smaller), and then decide to get an X1 anyway, unless you really just don't want to change channels anymore... or want a slower replacement to pressing buttons...
The X1 just has a long way to go really... Realistically it should be priced between a Wii U + PS4, cause thats honestly where it deserves to belong. Still can't forgive them for the DRM stuff either. It was all BS about how they "Listened" to the customer and decided to change, yet later on they were saying they still believed the always online was the future, so.. no they haven't been changed by customers at all, they just couldn't afford the DRM to be used against them as a weapon 24/7. They will be very lucky if I get an X1 because of this alone, they will need to work very hard is all I can say and they have a lot to prove and I don't know if they can do all the work they need to do for me personally just this gen. May make me look at them better next gen perhaps.
Your move MS anyway.
(So this post is more on topic... ha ha, it just seems they're trying to shift stock, not too surprising really, it is pretty cringy to see the handwritten posts, just really seems desperate, ha ha, if that doesnt say the X1 isnt in a good position I don't know what will)
In fact its quite funny, the only thing websites have the power to do is sway people over to PS4 really... I don't see how if someone can read the truth, (PS4 is more powerful, cheaper, smaller), and then decide to get an X1 anyway, unless you really just don't want to change channels anymore... or want a slower replacement to pressing buttons...
The X1 just has a long way to go really... Realistically it should be priced between a Wii U + PS4, cause thats honestly where it deserves to belong. Still can't forgive them for the DRM stuff either. It was all BS about how they "Listened" to the customer and decided to change, yet later on they were saying they still believed the always online was the future, so.. no they haven't been changed by customers at all, they just couldn't afford the DRM to be used against them as a weapon 24/7. They will be very lucky if I get an X1 because of this alone, they will need to work very hard is all I can say and they have a lot to prove and I don't know if they can do all the work they need to do for me personally just this gen. May make me look at them better next gen perhaps.
Your move MS anyway.
(So this post is more on topic... ha ha, it just seems they're trying to shift stock, not too surprising really, it is pretty cringy to see the handwritten posts, just really seems desperate, ha ha, if that doesnt say the X1 isnt in a good position I don't know what will)
We don't know anything of concrete about this, to be honest. People presume this because xbone is more available than the ps4 but not means that for sure. From what we know now, simply sony expected to sold less in US, xbone like their supply.
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I found this interesting table at a GameStop today, front and center so you had to walk around it, and completely with an interesting home-made sign and in-stock flyers:
I've seen the same or similar set-up at least two other GameStops. They had a few empty PS4 boxes stacked but nothing near as prominent. Inquiries on whether the PS4 was in stock were met with a negative. In the last GameStop, the employee actually said he had a PS4 but was using it as a Kinect stand for his Xbone because the PS4 has no games, especially sports games. I didn't even bother with him.
Take it for what's it worth, but there seems to be a clear push at GameStop to move Xbones. It also appears from the homemade signs that GameStop is still trying to clear the air from the Xbone reveal fiasco earlier this year.
I think the handwritten sign is just one of the GameStop employees being sick and tired of hearing people saying stuff that isn't true, and obviously they want to sell as many Xbox Ones as they can.
In Canada, PS4 marketing has been prominent in EB Games months before release, Xbox One's marketing push in store only really started a few weeks before release (and even then it was pretty pathetic). They still don't have any playable Xbox One demo stations in any of the EB Games that I've seen. They do have a real Xbox One and Kinect behind glass though (unlike the fake Xbox Ones in other kiosks)
...No, Seriously.
Wouldn't people stay away from wild fire?
Sounds more likely because Xbox One was more available and still selling out. Furthermore, with only 13 countries, Microsoft can supply US better than Sony.
Well, except multiplat...
"Sounds more likely" it's not exactly a fact. Selling out? Not everywhere. I want to be clear, I'm not saying xbone sales are bad.
Ha ha, [Inserts "I had a 360 last gen and enjoyed it for most of last gen, so can't be fanboy" comment here]
I haven't played an X1 admittedly no, but I have seen a bunch of videos. In terms of straight up gaming though... I don't see how the X1 beats the PS4 at all...
In terms of just features, the X1 has Kinect and I like the snap feature. Other than that....?
As for power being irrelevant... I kinda see what you mean. For the Wii U, I wasn't ever going to mind it power wise, only if it wasnt at least a little more powerful than a PS3/360, cause its just... excusable at that point. However I do mind power when it comes to my "primary console", but yeah whether I get the most powerful console is dependent on many reasons...price being the main one. I know its said the most powerful console hasn't ever won in terms of sales (maybe PS4 will), but that too is because of many reasons... being the most expensive... releasing quite late after competitors... etc.
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Not that this matters, because I don't think you care...but Xbox one's online social features are again better. The game DVR, editor, and uploader combined with the friends activity feed is substantially better than the ps4 equivalent. It's pretty damn cool to look at a game in the Xbox store and easily browse tons of user uploaded footage based by categories such as funny, epic, fails, even reviews, etc.
I own both consoles and can honestly say I prefer to play my online games on it.
I'll probably use my ps4 for single player games and Xbox for multi.
I think that is entirely subjective though. I've never been interested in Dead Rising, never played Killer Instinct in the past. I would most certainly get them if I got an X1, but thats the console pushing game sales, not the other way around which is how it should be really.
While for PS4, I played Killzone in the past, quite enjoyed it and inFamous which I'm sure I'll love SS very much.
The problem with MS atm for me is I don't know if I can trust them to keep pushing out exclusives, it was because of them stopping that I eventually stopped playing 360 and got a PS3. It seems they're most interesting in putting that money into getting dlc first or just exclusive dlc, which may work for some people, but it doesnt for me, less so when the games they get the deals for don't interest me so much.
Souldestroyer
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I disagree.
Having more stock does not equal shipping more consoles.
Covering more territories and being sold out does not equal shipping less consoles.
Tales from your ass son.
NPD January is when things will be really interesting.
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DragonSworne
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Sales are slow I would assume.
ElectricBlue187
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There are still a lot of people who think those things
The power of negative PR is amazing
The power of negative PR is amazing
I do care, ha ha. I have to take your word for the online social stuff, (Though I did hear making parties on X1 is more complicated than it needs to be).
The "Xbox Cloud" it has for developers to use seems nifty, but I have no idea what to expect from that and if its really significant.
I'm not trying to say the PS4 beats the X1 in every area btw, but I am noticing the features you list aren't really to do with gaming, its do with the features outside of gaming, which are neat and beneficial, but I just can't see that being a system seller.
I'm also not trying to generalize PS4 > X1. I understand the X1 outmatches the PS4 in areas. I'm trying to say as a gaming machine, its just no contest the PS4 outmatches the X1 in this area. The X1 has features to make up for it, but yeah, in the end, it depends what matters to you the most. The way I see it, is simply that I personally don't see much point in owning both...for now. Simply because they're both too similar in what they offer, only one is better at performance for a cheaper price, and the subjective part for me, I feel PS has more exclusives I care about and they've proved they can keep coming out with them, while for MS it seems to be a big thing if they just make one exclusive game a year.
zorlaczerohero
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My local JB Hifi had PS4 in stock, for about 2 hours. Went in to my local EB and they said "We had stock in this morning, it's all gone" But they too are really pushing the Xbox One. I think this is down to retailers rather then MS, trying to shift XB1's, it hasn't been out of stock around here since release. Fair enough I suppose, they have to make a living.
Souldestroyer
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Give it a miss with the fanboy rhetoric just because his opinion doesn't fall in line with yours.
Personally I'll never buy an Xbox One and try to stay clear of Microsofts products as much as possible due to the DRM bullshit they tried to pull along with their "messaging" prior to launch. Simple as that.
Does that make me a fanboy? No.
Of course. Nobody here has the numbers, we just talk about likely scenarios.
I was originally an Xbox 360 owner and loved the console, switched over to Ps3 in 2011 and disliked/liked a few things about it but overall preferred the Xbox 360. This go around I am going with PS4 because of the more powerful hardware and don't particularly care for motion/voice control (maybe when it becomes more consistantly convenient than a controller I will be more proactive to use it), and the games are going to be on both for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I strongly dislike MS for trying to impliment their DRM system with little to no explanation on why/how it works to the public and being very shady with their transitions, but this all comes down to which cup of tea you prefer.
Since I use streaming for my TV consumption and do not have cable television sub, dislike the jankiness of the kinect as it currently is, and +90% of the games will be cross platform with graphics being higher on the PS4 (granted slightly in many scenarios), it didnt make much sense for me to go XB1. MS and Xbox have a great lineup of first party titles that I would love to play eventually, and could possibly get an XB1 at some point in time, but it all comes down to preference in games which, you could have the greatest looking game in the world and have it be the worst game, much like you could have the most fun game that doesnt look as good as PS4 games. Not that it is the case in this scenario, but people really love XB exclusives whereas most of the PS games are either polar opposites. Aside from Naughty Dog games, Killzone, Beyond two souls, sly cooper, God of War, Resistance are all pretty polar where some people love and a good bit of people are unimpressed.
It all comes down to preference in which games you want to play, whether one is more powerful than the other is nice when it comes to the multiplat but it will all be determined by the first party titles.
Souldestroyer
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Fair enough, my mistake
I think it's still to early though to say either or is selling more/less than it's counter part.
I don't believe the numbers matter until at least 1 year of sales.
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Really? Just moments ago you wrote the Xbox one off as not even being a legitimate choice. The new generation doesn't seem to be about new features that directly impact gaming. I'm actually really curious as to what features you think these consoles have that actual improve the gaming aspect alone. It's the smallest hardware jump in the history of consoles. I've been seriously disappointed hardware wise, especially when the mid-range PC I built 2 years ago is more powerful than next gen. It's a service generation. Cloud, better online features all around, social networking, etc.
Sony is flooding the market. Only difference is that they are selling what they are making.
The main reason why the XO is likely to outsell the PS4 when it comes to Dec NPD - it be interesting how close Sony gets though, considering how spread its console shipments have to be...
I think its fair to assume that both are producing around about the same amount per month - not seen anything substantial that points to one producing significantly more/less than the other...
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