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Gawker: Republican With Backing Enters Presidential Race to Challenge Trump
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Fox Mulder
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Nah, they'll just continue being obstructionists and hope to unseat hilary after one roadblocked term with another traditional GOP guy.
Yup a loss is better for them than a Trump win. A resounding Trump loss is even better. Republicans well at the higher levels know that America's demographics are changing. A white majority vote cannot win an election in America anymore, just can't. Those days are gone. When Trump is polling at 1% with African American voters and 10% with Hispanics, you know you're fucked for a generation or even more as a party if you let yourself be aligned with his rhetoric.
Vicetrailia
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But they may be upset enough to not vote all republican as they will now.
Moments hunter
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I don't understand it...what was the point GOP decided to not back up Trump? They did all that show three weeks ago and now this? They were ok with Trump all the time and now this?
This is an anti-Trump faction of the GOP. They were shut out at the convention, but that doesn't mean they will stop trying everything they can.
Aaronrules380
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Think they're referring to downticket candidates
gutter_trash
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he's not a household name and I only see him drawing a few thousand votes at the most, I don't see the enthousiasm
Clinton wins Utah lol, awesome
Clinton wins Utah lol, awesome
Mengy
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Hell siphon votes from Trump for sure. There are millions of Republicans who feel like they dont have any viable choice with Trump, they dont want him but they cant vote for Hillary either. This gives them an option, and millions of them will gladly take it.
If this happens Hillary will win, but at least it wont allow Trump to completely destroy the GOP in the process.
Yes, I understand they already know it will help Hillary get elected as POTUS and that is their goal, but I also think they expect it to help them down ticket, but I think that is the part which will backfire. All Trump has to do is complain that the establishment are trying to destroy him and say that voting mainstream is just #sad and boom ~30 of the down tickets votes are lost.
So it doesn't only just helps Hillary, it will actively help dems in the house/senate.
I could be wrong but Trumps supporters are all crazy so if he says not to do something, they'll likely listen.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Best comic book president.
The kryptonite poisoning thing was a plot created by those damn illegal aliens.
#kryptogate
How many Republicans actually know who this guys is? I mean, how many people know who he is? I feel like today is the first day I've ever even heard his name in the political sphere. Seems like a terrible idea for the GOP, but a very good thing overall for the Presidential Election.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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A combination of Democrats stealing the optimistic patriotism that Republicans used to revel in plus the post-convention polls and scandals finally sent some people over the edge.
You Are Viewtiful
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Hoping for a party civil war.
I'm aware of that actually. I was mostly referring to the bald head and the similarities in looks since I have nothing to go on policy wise. Trump on the other hand is Senator Kelly from the X-Men hands down.
The Culture Vulture
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If you don't see it already you're not paying very close attention.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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I never made that connection before but you're absolutely right. Except that Trump is way more cartoony that Senator Kelly ever was.
minor effort
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There is a likeness there.
Doesn't have the same steely glare Luthor does. I'm not seeing it. Baldness alone doesn't make someone look convincingly Luthor-esque.
If Stein and Johnson are putting up decent numbers, a "Bernie" of the right would probably detract enough to kill Trump's chances.
AntraxSuicide
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The bolded is the point. The GOP is worried that the people abstaining won't go to the polls at all, which hurts the down ticket. They want those people to vote for anyone at the top, and hope they'll vote straight R down the ticket.
That said, no one is voting for this guy. I'd I remember correctly, he can't even get on a lot of ballots.
outunderthestars
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I will donate $100 to his campaign. Trump scares me more than any other human on the planet.
Random Painted HIghway
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I would be stunned if this guy could pull more than 10k votes nationwide
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Not sure why they wouldn't execute this a few weeks back, before the convention or even before all of the primaries concluded.
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this is actually bad for the Democrats, not good. Clinton was almost certainly going to beat Trump anyway, but she was going to beat him because a fair number of the white educated Republican demographic were going to be demoralized and not turn up to vote for Trump (but also not vote for Clinton, because at heart they are Republican). Now, she beats Trump more easily, but that Republican demographic that wasn't turning out will turn out to vote for this guy if he does well, which means they're now voting in the local races when they weren't if he hadn't chosen to run, which means Democrats do worse in the Senate and the House. It also marks the beginning of the Republican reconstruction period if he begins to surge as a candidate, which is obviously long-run bad for Democratic prospects too.
The best situation for Clinton was always her vs. Trump, mano a (wo)mano.
The best situation for Clinton was always her vs. Trump, mano a (wo)mano.
Vicetrailia
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Last week was surreal. One-week to rule them all.
There isn't nearly enough time for him to get on all the ballots, he's already missed a number of deadlines. If he's a factor at all, which he likely won't be, it'll be in Utah where he'll split the conservative vote and hand Hillary the state.
Lord Frieza
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I don't think they expected Trump to tank like he did already, and maybe there was some degree of hope he would pivot after the primaries and get more in line to try and win the election. Last week showed that he isn't, and most likely won't.
rokkerkory
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Professor X?
nice
nice
Hyperactivity
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Barring big time endorsement, I feel like Gary Johnson is a better known name.
Unless he can steal enough hundreds of votes in a really tightly contested state, which could still happen, so I'm still ok with this
Unless he can steal enough hundreds of votes in a really tightly contested state, which could still happen, so I'm still ok with this
Hickbilly Deluxe
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It's the best strategy for the GoP. Hand the white house to hillary, try to hold the Senate and hamstring her till 2020.
There is a likeness there.
Kinda looks like if Paul Ryan shaved his head.
Netherscourge
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I just read that Jeb Bush's son, George P. Bush, is backing Trump???
Talk about shitting on your own mom and dad...
sheesh...
Why doesn't he just support this guy instead?
The GoP is completely screwed up.
Talk about shitting on your own mom and dad...
sheesh...
Why doesn't he just support this guy instead?
The GoP is completely screwed up.
Lord Frieza
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I think that's the point, yes, but I think beating Trump really needs to be priority number 1. I don't want to go through another four years or stalemate, but we can't elect someone like him to, arguably, the most powerful position in the world. Everything possible needs to be done to prevent that, even if it's looking unlikely even as of now. It's has to be number 1.
dapperbandit
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Not sure what they hope to achieve. #Never Trump had months and then n the end maybe a hundred people actually gave a shit.
I guarantee the vast majority of people voting Republican will vote for Trump, no matter how convenient it is for them to appear squeamish right now.
I guarantee the vast majority of people voting Republican will vote for Trump, no matter how convenient it is for them to appear squeamish right now.
Why is this thread so long. The deadline to be on the ballot is passed in AR-DE-FL-GA-KS-IL-IN-MA-ME-MD-MI-MO-NE-NV-NJ-NM-NC-OK-PA-SC-SD-TX-WA-WV- and WI And 32,452 signatures due *this* Wednesday to meet the ballot deadline in AK, CO, CT, HI, NH, OH, DC. So this means months in court? (stolen from Taniel on twitter).
This is a non-story that will be over by Wednesday of this week when he can't get on the ballot.
This is a non-story that will be over by Wednesday of this week when he can't get on the ballot.
He took a job as the Texas GOP Republican Victory Chairman or something like that, so he's obliged to support the entire Republican ticket. He may also be calculating that his quickest path to higher office is to primary Ted Cruz on a platform of "you broke your promise and failed to support the Republican ticket", but honestly I'm not sure how well that plays in 2018 when the narrative will have been written that Trump was doomed from the start after he gets thrashed. Maybe they'll try to spin some back-stab myth about how surely Trump would have won if not for those shifty traitors like Cruz.
Play is for heavily Mormon states, of which only NV is on that list. Utah is where this maybe damages.
A lot of people are doing it on name recognition alone as well. Something tells me they aren't going to be rushing out to vote for a guy who looks like an adult baby with no political experience. They would rather go for the childish adult with no political experience.
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None of that contradicts what I said. So what if Clinton wins Utah? All you need is 270, adding extras makes no difference. 2016 is about the House, and this could materially influence key House races in a negative way for the Democrats.
AuthenticM
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Go ahead, Republicans. Split that vote.
psynergylover
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We reached telenovela levels fam!!!
JonathanEx
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Hi, ignorant non-American. When people say this could "help the down ticket", um, what does that mean in practice?
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