Johnny Cage
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You cant defend shooting from the camera, it is the stupidest shit ever
Gears Ultimate Beta Access
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Dave_6
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Wow this is not noob friendly at all :/ The original was my first ever MP experience but I never played it much and the last Gears MP I played was back when 3 first released. Not sure if I will ever get any better at it when everyone I match up with is already level 20 and know how to play it very well. Then I get to hear them talk shit constantly between rounds...
sixteen-bit
Member
Any cool sniper montages from skilled players yet? I want to recreate the 2006 youtube experience again.
Is this different from the original game?
This is how my gnasher has felt since I started playing this.. I get downed in one shot from 10-15 feet away and my shot from 2 feet away doesn't do jack.. Hell I sniped some guy standing still in the face yesterday and I'm pretty sure it didn't even register. Hopefully it's just a beta issue and will be cleared up.
Feel the Swift
Member
Well it is a remake. There's definitely going to be a lot of experienced players coming back, especially during the beta. Overall Gears 1 multiplayer was never noob friendly to begin with.
Nope.
You want barrel shots then? Go play Gears 3. That's a fundamental change to the game. Every Gears but the first, had shots from the barrel. This is a return to form. Center screen is more consistent. You know where are shots are going. There is no eyeballing or guess work. Being "unrealistic" is such a shitty argument. The only downside to center screen aiming is back packing, bit that shit is funny anyway and doesn't happen enough as is to be an issue.
Nine years of practice man. And the shit talking between rounds is what makes Gears so much fun. Before party chat was a thing and ruined XBL forever, it was so much fun talking with others so much. That's how friendships and rivalries were born. I have people on my friend's list who I met playing Gears 1 because of how you can talk in lobbies or when you're dead.
So much fun telling the guy on the other team he's a punk bitch for two piecing, to meet you at the boom for a 1v1 and then blasting him to hell and back over and over again for the rest of the match. Even better when you add each other and then become friends.
oo7
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Novel Mike
Member
nope it's just a glitch, it was already there at first Gears, don't your remember when you were shooting with the snipe but the ammo didn't get used ? it's the same here, I've already seen the same bugs that were already there is '06 like sliding, can't tagging people with smokes or just falling from the map etc ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJobtulU1vQ
The beta is pretty terrilbe so far, the game feel slow and clunky as fuck, a broken ass movement system from nine years ago, OP melee, active sniper downs, an inconsistent gnasher, people eats shots, your shoots are coming from the middle of your screen and not from the gun, 2 piecing is back, powerless power weapon like nades/boomer, you get stun by almost everything ( melee, nades .. ) Can't hear enemy footsteps etc ...
If they don't change the game, it will die pretty soon after it's release, just look at this :
I see nothing wrong with that gif. That's the true Gears 1 experience I remember playing back in 2006 when I wasn't hosting.
Kurt Angle
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"buh buh but this game is soooooo hardcore to them roots of gaears1, its you who should adapt !!!"The beta is pretty terrilbe so far, the game feel slow and clunky as fuck, a broken ass movement system from nine years ago, OP melee, active sniper downs, an inconsistent gnasher, people eats shots, your shoots are coming from the middle of your screen and not from the gun, 2 piecing is back, powerless power weapon like nades/boomer, you get stun by almost everything ( melee, nades .. ) Can't hear enemy footsteps etc ...
If they don't change the game, it will die pretty soon after it's release, just look at this :
it is hot garbage. hope gears4 isn't made by the same sub team that came up with the design choices for this horrible excuse of a product
Seems really like a connection issue.
The annex area is not contested and the cog are ignoring him. He's probably already dead but the server didn't update his status or his position on the map is mismatched ( like when as someone said you cannot finish off someone).
This is glitch and this is beta. Shotgun is inconsistent and acts different to shotgun from Gears 1 but be at least a little fair here, it definitely doeasn't work like on that gif.
If they don't change the game, it will die pretty soon after it's release, just look at this :
You can't tell a bug from a feature? Beta is actual beta, news at 11.
Kurt Angle
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=gnrkkICsKlE
yeah it's not like that gif, it's actually even worse
coalition is basically the new 343
Well I think this is most faithful feature right now.
The limbo-lobby was the shit back then.
Yeah stacking for the ranked was a pain in the ass (remember "gridlock 10turns 4min warzone" ?) but the community experience was never topped on the 360.
Johnny Cage
Member
It's hard to argue with your high and mighty 'gears vet' attitude which basically boils down to "we as the people were wronged by improvements made to subsequent games, the original was the best because it was the first" despite obvious flaws that made any playstyle other than using an inconsistent gnasher completely pointless but hey #dealwithit to anyone with a shred of logic about how a game should be balanced.
And people say my posts are hyperbolic....
It's a beta. The build they had at the E3 show floor was apparently a newer build. Public betas for mass consumption, like this one, are typically older builds and primarily for network stress testing and of course, advertising the game
Novel Mike
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You can see exactly where your shots don't hit him I don't see what the problem is.
In Gears 1 you can smell the scrubs from a mile away
A lot of the plays and shooting from the edges actually took advantages of the center screen.
Adding the barrel shooting would denaturalize a part of the gameplay this game is trying to bring back.
So no.
Gears 1 fans had to "deal" with Gears 2, Gears 3 and Gears Judgement. So guess what? I don't think it's so much to ask that fans of those games "deal" with a remaster of Gears 1 playing like Gears 1. Why is that so hard to understand?
Ultimate is giving Gears 1 fans what they have they've wanted for nine years. A game that works as it should, that is (or at least less) not inconsistent. We had to wait for our turn to get a game we wanted. Now it's your turn to wait. It's only fair. You can play Gears 3 right now or wait for Gears 4, since I'm sure TC wants to have two games that cater to both fan bases.
Kurt Angle
Member
so now you're transitioning from the broken ass design choices are "buh it's true to gears roots" to "its only a beta it will get better"?
it really is the flashback to the master chief collection cycle
awful movement, active snipe down, broken inconsistent gnasher as shown in the video and repeated by countless people here, 2 piecing are suddenly not gonna go away on a new build. thats not how game development works when everything you see on a public "beta" read demo is suddenly changed 2 months before release
I don't think that what you showed on that gif is worse. He missed some shots and he should get kill with some. It's far from perfect and there are obviously issues with spread and shots pattern ( mostly visible when you are trying to shoot downed player, it's hard to hit even though he is not moving).
My point was only that what you see on that gif is clearly some glitch and it's not normal. After so many shots with hard aim that are clearly on target, opponent will be down or gibbed even in this beta.
Fahzgoolin
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All a bunch of ignorant arrogant posts. Ridiculous.
oo7
Member
Didn't notice that, good eye.
You keep saying the same thing. Movement isn't awful. It needs to be tweaked though. Active snipes are lame as hell, but actives are off right now and can be turned off in the final game too. Lag will exist in any game. Once again, the spread is different and players both old and new haven't adjusted to it yet. I'm starting to and I noticed that I'm racking up serious kills. And yeah, two piecing will always be bullshit. I wish they either took out melee stun or made it how it was in Gears 3. But hey, I'm willing to roll my eyes, grit my teeth and deal with it. I'm just happy to have a remaster of this game.
In the end, If you think the game is shit, you can vote with your wallet and not buy Mr. Microsoft's game. It's that simple. The stuff mentioned above are small changes that can be made. They're mere parameters and values. We're not talking about major structural changes to maps or the net code now.
I'll actually agree with you here. Even though I am having a hard time to be better then good/decent/not shit at this beta, I shouldn't try to make Gears of War Beta into something for me personally (Since my gaming experiences have changed since 2006). GoW 1 is GoW 1. If I want to play it when it comes out, I will have to learn how it plays again and accept the mechanics in place and if I enjoy that, I will stick with it. That is fair.
Johnny Cage
Member
I actually will go back to gears 3 tonight to enjoy a balanced game that is by far and away the best gears multiplayer experience, was hoping the remaster would incorporate some fairness to the original but nope we get a 9 year old game with a new skin that's still as broken and unbalanced as it used to be.
Also everything you write sounds like a serious Braveheart speech.
Thanks. If only the Gears forums saw it that way too. Gears 4 should play like Gears 4. As much as I might want it to play like Gears 1, the other guy wants it to play like Gears 3. Not one of us is right or wrong. We mereky have different tastes. If Gears 4 ends up being entirely new and better than anything before, then that will be great.
This made me laugh
Kurt Angle
Member
"Broken is good cause it was like that 10 years ago"
no wonder this series never did halo and cod numbers. it tries to cater to idiotic logic like this. when the population for this drops like a brick by September hope it gives coalition a nice lesson on what not to do for gears4.
without cliffy I fear for the direction they are heading, and this awful beta is a scary start
You know what's crazy? I'm not the one insisting that Gears 3, or a hypothetical remaster of it should play or be anything else but Gears 3. I would be 100% okay with a remaster of Gears 3 essentially being the same, with minor refinements. That is what Ultimate is. A refinement to Gears 1.
If that isn't what you want, then just do as you just said: Go play Gears 3. Vote with your wallet and don't buy the game once August 25th rolls around.
Johnny Cage
Member
I will buy it for the campaign though, it was dope and I loved the horror vibe it had.
LaunchpadMcQ
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So, question, has anyone else had some finnicky issues with the active reload in the beta? As of the start of day 3, my active reload bullets have stopped flashing and I feel like they only sometimes actually do what they're supposed to, i.e. torque bow loading faster.
Kind of weird. I'm waiting for Gears 3 to come to BC, because I kind of agree with some people here. I used to play Gears 1 a lot, but it was pretty ridiculously broken in its time. Gears 3 was infinitely more balanced from what amount of time I spent with it. It's my hope that they can fix this up before release so I can play with my pc friends that refuse to buy an Xbox One.
Kind of weird. I'm waiting for Gears 3 to come to BC, because I kind of agree with some people here. I used to play Gears 1 a lot, but it was pretty ridiculously broken in its time. Gears 3 was infinitely more balanced from what amount of time I spent with it. It's my hope that they can fix this up before release so I can play with my pc friends that refuse to buy an Xbox One.
Cliff is the one who wanted to make the game more casual friendly. The Halo and CoD fans already had no interest in Gears because they are already invested in their games. At the same time, the new mechanics in Gears 2 and 3 lowered the skill gap, which dissatisfied and alienated Gears 1 fans
Plus, Gears isn't at the level that Halo or CoD because of its more hyper violent, dark and gothic undertones and motifs. It's not space men or generic soldiers. Gears' style is harder to sell and isn't as marketable because of that. And yes, it's a much harder game to play overall than Halo or that twitchy nonsense that is Call of Duty.
Nobody isn't saying Gear of War 3 wasn't more balance because it was. This is not Gear of war 3. People want Gears of War just how they remembered it
LaunchpadMcQ
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I'm a little unsure about what you're saying because of your use of negatives, but I think what you're saying is that people want the broken ass Gears 1 from years past. I'm not sure why though.
Just read above that actives were turned off, hmm. Well that makes a lot of sense.
I am lol
Gears 3 weapon balancing was absolute piss. As a die hard Gnasher user, yes, even the Gnasher was too strong in Gears 3. You could down people from insanely long distances. The Lancer magazine was too big. The HB with stopping power was nightmarishly strong and the Retro....was just the spawn of Satan and probably the single most God awful inclusion in that game. Countering the hardest weapon to use with the easiest... Okay... What was Epic thinking?
AndyMoogle
Member
That was mostly because of active reload though. Get rid of that shit and Gears 3 would be a much, much better game. Without an active reload, the gnasher wasn't OP as fuck.
Also, every Gears is inconsistent.
That guy is timing out or something, the ammo isn't going down. Used to happen all the time on GoW1 when you'd lag out.The beta is pretty terrilbe so far, the game feel slow and clunky as fuck, a broken ass movement system from nine years ago, OP melee, active sniper downs, an inconsistent gnasher, people eats shots, your shoots are coming from the middle of your screen and not from the gun, 2 piecing is back, powerless power weapon like nades/boomer, you get stun by almost everything ( melee, nades .. ) Can't hear enemy footsteps etc ...
If they don't change the game, it will die pretty soon after it's release, just look at this :