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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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Pejo
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Oh there's always 2 sets of rewards when a new event drops (I mean the major events, not the 1 off battle events and double drops from calyxes.) One is "limited time rewards" which usually has stellar jade and credits/materials and then the permanent rewards that are stellar jades and sometimes a phone wallpaper or chat box or something. If you're looking at past events, like the pokemon mode or the instagram ghost hunting stuff, you permanently missed the "limited" rewards but the rest you can do at your own pace whenever you want.
jonnyXx
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Well this sucks, I thought the Abyss enemy lineup would change every reset now that it's once a month. Nope, instead we're stuck with the same lineup for two months it seems.
They didn't need to touch Abyss resets after introducing the theatre but an extra 620 primos a month would have been too much I guess. Lame!
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I can only hope it's just this time since it's the first reset after theatre was introduced and every reset afterwards will update the lineup.
They didn't need to touch Abyss resets after introducing the theatre but an extra 620 primos a month would have been too much I guess. Lame!
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I can only hope it's just this time since it's the first reset after theatre was introduced and every reset afterwards will update the lineup.
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jonnyXx
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If those new sets are real then they're ridiculous.
Energy refund to wearer plus 45 DMG% to whole team on the support set, and 20 DMG% plus 40% crit on the DPS set.
They only work on Natlan characters btw...unless Mavuika can give the rest of the cast access to this Night Spirit state thing.
Pejo
Member
There are new leaks now saying that World Level 9 is coming, you have to be AR58 for it.
No way they're not raising level cap if they're doing a WL increase...
InterMusketeer
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If it's anything like Bond of Life, this Spirit state might be attached to certain weapons. But yeah, most likely a DPS set for new characters and a support set for the Archon. Back to the mines we go.
I wonder. Could also just be an easy way to give hardcore players that challenge they so desperately wanted. I'm fine with anything as long as boss and domain drops are increased accordingly. Leaks have been far less trustworthy as of late, so I'm not expecting much.
deanote666
Member
Not looking forward to losing my extra mora if they raise the AR60 level cap.
Haven't had to do a mora leyline in over a year.
Haven't had to do a mora leyline in over a year.
dotnotbot
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InterMusketeer
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Dang, I don't think any of us were aware of this. It seems to be getting some traction. Even English VAs are speaking up about it. I wonder how Hoyo feels about that.
I don't feel like any of the nations are particularly accurate/respectful to real life, so it's interesting this complaint is only leveled at the devs when "marginalized" cultures are involved. No surprise though, that's how the internet is. It goes without saying, but I ain't signing that.
Icymanipulator
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It’s gaining the same kind of traction that Hogwarts legacy got, which went on to sell what.. 12 million copies? lol
Vocal armchair keyboard warrior minority imo
It’s just noise and small groups wanting to assert control, and through control, legitimacy. Literally the best thing to do is ignore them.
They can build their own games and IPs if they want, instead of trying to take over an existing games/IPs. But they won’t ever do that because it’s never enough for these people, it’s not enough that just they want it, they want you to want whatever they want too. These are all just forms of control. What you can say, what you can buy, what you can think.
Ugh… can server maintenance end plz?
Vocal armchair keyboard warrior minority imo
It’s just noise and small groups wanting to assert control, and through control, legitimacy. Literally the best thing to do is ignore them.
They can build their own games and IPs if they want, instead of trying to take over an existing games/IPs. But they won’t ever do that because it’s never enough for these people, it’s not enough that just they want it, they want you to want whatever they want too. These are all just forms of control. What you can say, what you can buy, what you can think.
Ugh… can server maintenance end plz?
deanote666
Member
Something the algorithm spat out at me. Payoff at the end.
Decided to go for Nilou at the spur of the moment. Got her at soft pity and her weapon as the first 5* at soft pity.
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Icymanipulator
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Damn… got Navia in 3 10 pulls, that said I already had a little pity built up but nice, could have been worse and I won the 50/50
Icymanipulator
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deanote666
That was pretty cool lol
I loved when she vacuumed up the crystals
And the part where everyone was wearing her sunglasses. And the best was the doom part lol, I was dying
Pejo
Member
These are probably the same people that are telling everyone that KING YASUKE, SAVIOR OF JAPAN is fine in AC:Shadows, and to not worry because it's fiction.
I was aware but I'm not giving it the time of day and I didn't want to give it exposure.
Yea exactly. Unless you're Chinese, there are very few cultures they really put in the game in a "respectful to real life" manner. It's a fictional world that leans on reality when they feel like it, which is fine.
I think a lot of people these days have severe fiction illiteracy. They have a very difficult time separating fiction from reality, and I'm not sure how that happened. Like people will write in and complain to showrunners/game studios if a character in their game (who is bad/evil) does something that's bad/evil. Somehow they think that because a character does something, it's the creators pushing acceptance or saying they support the evil character's actions. It's fucking nutty.
I think Disney/Marvel is partially to blame for a generation of idiots having that problem, honestly. They write the most boring/bland antagonists because they didn't want to offend anyone, and it becomes just so goddamn boring to watch. But that's for a separate thread.
deanote666
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If you hold her E skill, she does vacuum up the crystals.
That was pretty cool lol
I loved when she vacuumed up the crystals
And the part where everyone was wearing her sunglasses. And the best was the doom part lol, I was dying
Great channel
Pejo
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Looks like we're getting 1600 primogems and a rollback of the Neuvi changes because CN threatened lawsuits or something.
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Pyro Archon in-game render, probably the NPC version considering it's in 5.0. No glasses though, nice. Love her design so much.
Me after C6'ing her in 5.2:
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Pyro Archon in-game render, probably the NPC version considering it's in 5.0. No glasses though, nice. Love her design so much.
Me after C6'ing her in 5.2:
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deanote666
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I was thinking about the Yae turret targeting change backlash when I read that notice.
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InterMusketeer
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I didn't even know this fix was happening. Why did it take them over half a year to make those changes to Neuvi? Is it really that hard to patch a character in a timely manner? Don't matter to me, I'm just happy with the ten-pull.
Apparently fans got mad because they felt like Hoyo was gonna push Mualani instead. Let's hope this doesn't impact her viability.
Apparently fans got mad because they felt like Hoyo was gonna push Mualani instead. Let's hope this doesn't impact her viability.
Dragon_Rocks
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Beta leaks coming up. Holy shit at the animation and gameplay powercreep. Meanwhile Klee couldn't even have her signature walking animation...
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Also I can't believe the first official Genshin breakdancer WASN'T Guoba. It's not fair.
Looks like we're getting 1600 primogems and a rollback of the Neuvi changes because CN threatened lawsuits or something.
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Pyro Archon in-game render, probably the NPC version considering it's in 5.0. No glasses though, nice. Love her design so much.
Me after C6'ing her in 5.2:
They made her a flat butt.
Icymanipulator
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Man, I can’t skip the dialogue in the event quest fast enough. Paper animals? I don’t care what they have to say. Give me my primos and mats and let me move on.
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Pejo
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It's because of the inverted T-pose and the arms covering the arch of her back. All adult females have the same body, give or take some details, so I'm confident she'll be Eula-like.
They made her a flat butt.
I am fearing that they'll do the usual "Remove all shading from ONLY the female butts" like they have been for a while now though. It's really hypocritical that they leave the male ass shading alone but censor the female stuff. I mean mods will fix it anyways, but still it annoys me when it happens.
Pejo
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DAMN, huge leak here. Gameplay of "unknown god" Kiana (the god that splits the travelers apart and seals their power in the game intro). Her kit looks INSANE.
huge spoilers, but wow so amazing.
huge spoilers, but wow so amazing.
Icymanipulator
Member
DAMN, huge leak here. Gameplay of "unknown god" Kiana (the god that splits the travelers apart and seals their power in the game intro). Her kit looks INSANE.
huge spoilers, but wow so amazing.
You got me, just because this would have blown my mind.
Pejo
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So I used my keys to unlock Kirara's trial quest for her visual trail effect. I have to say that challenge was a lot harder than I expected. It's split into two halves - timed traversal to pick up all the orbs, and a combat trial with 3 samurai in a pool of water. I failed the obstacle portion once because I didn't know the remaining orbs were on the opposite side of the tree, but the combat portion got me a few times. I have my Kirara built for pure HP to max her shield, so even with the puddle of water and blooms, she wasn't able to kill those samurai in time. Ended up swapping out my Freedom Sworn sword from Shinobu for a try and with the extra EM I was able to beat it with no issues. Still, more of a challenge than I expected. I'm curious what you have to do in the other characters' trials. Like I assume Dilucs is easy since he doesn't have any traversal mechanics and his combat prowess is better, for instance.
I would actually love more of that type of content. What a shame that you only get one unlock per month, and it's tied behind that new mode to get the keys. I don't mind personally, but I know a lot of you guys don't care for it.
Anyways, the trail looks way better in the open world than it does in the preview screen. There are a lot more particles and it's very noticeable without being too distracting. I really like it. When Kirara goes into catbox mode, it leave extra little footprints too on top of the flower trails, it looks really satisfying.
I'll probably go for Qiqi's next, whenever the reset happens and I can get another key.
Haven't started the new patch content yet, probably this weekend. It's nice that there's a text log now so you can review quest dialogue and stuff.
I would actually love more of that type of content. What a shame that you only get one unlock per month, and it's tied behind that new mode to get the keys. I don't mind personally, but I know a lot of you guys don't care for it.
Anyways, the trail looks way better in the open world than it does in the preview screen. There are a lot more particles and it's very noticeable without being too distracting. I really like it. When Kirara goes into catbox mode, it leave extra little footprints too on top of the flower trails, it looks really satisfying.
I'll probably go for Qiqi's next, whenever the reset happens and I can get another key.
Haven't started the new patch content yet, probably this weekend. It's nice that there's a text log now so you can review quest dialogue and stuff.
deanote666
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Diluc is aim his burst juuuust right and a battle portion.
InterMusketeer
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So there's tons of leaks now. I'm trying not to spoil everything for myself, but here's a couple things I found noteworthy:
Mualani (Hydro girl) is all about marking enemies as prey by surfing into them with her shark. Her normal attacks are converted into shark bites, and their damage is increased when multiple enemies are marked. Attacks against marked enemies will also fire homing projectiles against nearby enemies. The fewer enemies they hit, the more damage they deal. Her burst is simply an AoE Hydro missile. Sounds nothing like Neuvi, because she's mostly a melee character.
Kachina (Geo girl) can summon her drill and either leave it to deal AoE Geo damage, or ride it herself for direct control. She can mount/dismount whenever she wants, as long as she has point left. It counts as a Geo construct, so she has some synergy with Chiori. Her burst drops a field that increases the drill's speed and AoE attacks. She scales on DEF and sounds like a mostly independent character. No healing, little support from her cons.
The second phase is fighting a ruin guard with the help of Fischl. Both characters' health constantly drains and it seemed like the enemy had quite some health. There was a time limit too. My pretty well-invested Qiqi only had 20 secs left. It was a pretty slow process, and the challenge itself wasn't that interesting to me. Might be due to Qiqi's less than ideal kit though.
- New weapon billets
- 5.0 strongboxes unexpectedly include Golden Troupe and Marechaussee
- Free event catalyst, supposedly for Mualani
- Natlan doesn't have the usual reputation system, but does it on a per-tribe basis.
Mualani (Hydro girl) is all about marking enemies as prey by surfing into them with her shark. Her normal attacks are converted into shark bites, and their damage is increased when multiple enemies are marked. Attacks against marked enemies will also fire homing projectiles against nearby enemies. The fewer enemies they hit, the more damage they deal. Her burst is simply an AoE Hydro missile. Sounds nothing like Neuvi, because she's mostly a melee character.
Kachina (Geo girl) can summon her drill and either leave it to deal AoE Geo damage, or ride it herself for direct control. She can mount/dismount whenever she wants, as long as she has point left. It counts as a Geo construct, so she has some synergy with Chiori. Her burst drops a field that increases the drill's speed and AoE attacks. She scales on DEF and sounds like a mostly independent character. No healing, little support from her cons.
That's the one I did. The first one requires you to light up a bunch of those elemental columns. Pretty boring and time-consuming with her limited Cryo application.
The second phase is fighting a ruin guard with the help of Fischl. Both characters' health constantly drains and it seemed like the enemy had quite some health. There was a time limit too. My pretty well-invested Qiqi only had 20 secs left. It was a pretty slow process, and the challenge itself wasn't that interesting to me. Might be due to Qiqi's less than ideal kit though.
Pejo
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I'm not against it, at least we (probably) don't turn into those dinosaur gremlins in the first trailer for 90% of Natlan exploration. Man I really didn't want to roll any of these characters but I feel like I want Mualani for the shark...
Was it your Fischl or a trial one? That's the first trial I've read about that gives you a second character.
InterMusketeer
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The saurians are probably the F2P alternative to pulling for those characters. Hard to say how important those abilities even are though. Especially after the whole Pneuma and Ousia thing in Fontaine which turned out to be a big nothingburger.
Pretty sure it was a trial Fischl.
Pejo
Member
Yea I was originally up in arms about Bond of Life and Pneuma/Ousia, but they were no big deal whatsoever. HP drain mechanic however I still hate with every fiber of my being. I am one of those guys who has OCD about the HP of my party being topped off when out exploring and it was driving me insane using Fontaine characters. At least Furina can fix herself but even then you have to stand around the oceanid and wait for it to tick each character individually, despite her skill succcing their HP whether they're on field or not.
Well, I guess I finally better level up my Aquila Favonia for DPS QiQi then. I am already running that ocean clam artifact set on her, so it should be enough to kill that sentinel. Did you take out his eye with fischl or just wail on him?
InterMusketeer
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Y'know who's really good at fixing Furina's health drain? Sigewinne
But fortunately it doesn't seem like Mualani uses HP drain mechanics.
I remembered halfway through that I could disable him, but wasn't able to hit the weak spot twice due to the health drain. I had about 20 secs left when I defeated him, so shouldn't be too difficult. Other sets might be more useful than Clam in this case, though that's the one I used myself.
Icymanipulator
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Ya I took Dilucs key and did the first part, but the fight is really hard, and my Diluc is fairly well built. I was surprised. Going to com back to it later.
InterMusketeer
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She might be surprisingly strong? Obviously early theorycrafting based on her beta numbers (and I'm sad he didn't bring up the event weapon), but would be cool if she could compete for highest DPS. Didn't expect that at all.
Edit: New(?) codes: here and here. Worked for me. Just some mora and exp.
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Icymanipulator
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Wow, I changed 1 of Dilucs artifacts from element mastery to attack and did the Echo challenge first try. I guess he’s not really doing reactions alone… 
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How many keys can we earn? Is there a limit?. I looked online but all I see is “you get 2 gifted to you, and you can hold 4 max”
But can we earn them indefinitely by farming the theater mode? Or just 1 person season?
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How many keys can we earn? Is there a limit?. I looked online but all I see is “you get 2 gifted to you, and you can hold 4 max”
But can we earn them indefinitely by farming the theater mode? Or just 1 person season?
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Pejo
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Speaking of, there are some cool re-melusine-ing mods for her:Y'know who's really good at fixing Furina's health drain? Sigewinne
Praise be. Not that I particularly need another Hydro DPS but I love the shark thing a lot, and her design is cute.
I think disabling does a full resist debuff on him too, so all elements + physical shred. Probably helps quite a bit with the timer.
They "gave" us two keys as an introduction to the mode, then you can get 1 every time the imaginarium resets.Wow, I changed 1 of Dilucs artifacts from element mastery to attack and did the Echo challenge first try. I guess he’s not really doing reactions alone…
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How many keys can we earn? Is there a limit?. I looked online but all I see is “you get 2 gifted to you, and you can hold 4 max”
But can we earn them indefinitely by farming the theater mode? Or just 1 person season?
Looks like she got a round of % nerfs in the recent beta update. Probably will see several more before it concludes. I never get excited about kits anymore until the betas are done. Some characters get outright obliterated by nerfs during the beta process.
New Natlan wings look really cool:
Dragon_Rocks
Member
They're leaning in to the madness now. This is gonna piss off a lot of players lol.
IT - Imaginarium Theater.
That is why I tried it once and never bothered with it again. The depths of illusion mode in WuWa is much more satisfying to play.
InterMusketeer
Member
From what people are saying, her stats are high enough that she should survive beta relatively unscathed, even with multiple nerfs.
Man, that's the laziest way to address the concerns about difficulty.
jonnyXx
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They're leaning in to the madness now. This is gonna piss off a lot of players lol.
IT - Imaginarium Theater.
deanote666
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Dragon_Rocks
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So I skip most of the lore stuff but get bits and pieces of who is who. Where are we in the hierarchy of power currently? After Fontaine it seems Dragon Sovereigns should be equal or above Archon level. Then we see that Skirk was powerful enough to easily handle the whale while Neuvi initially couldn't but was able to after getting his full powers back. So Skirk should be near or above Archon level as well I guess. That puts the Khaenriah 5 (or at least Skirk's master) above Archon level. So is this current placement?
Celestia Guys > Khaenriah 5 > Skirk/Some Dragons/Some Archons (Neuvi, Raiden, Zhongli etc.) > Some Harbingers > Some Archons (Nahida, Venti etc.) > Traveler > Others
Is this somewhat correct. Not sure where the witches fit, maybe same as Khaenriah 5 or next to them. Also sibling and Dain power levels are unknown to me so not sure where they fit.
Celestia Guys > Khaenriah 5 > Skirk/Some Dragons/Some Archons (Neuvi, Raiden, Zhongli etc.) > Some Harbingers > Some Archons (Nahida, Venti etc.) > Traveler > Others
Is this somewhat correct. Not sure where the witches fit, maybe same as Khaenriah 5 or next to them. Also sibling and Dain power levels are unknown to me so not sure where they fit.
Pejo
Member
I say
Hope so, I've altered my plans to pick her up (and hopefully a copy of the 4* Geo girl, but we'll probably get her for free like we got Collei/Lynette, I'd imagine. Speaking about that new Nightsoul mechanic:
So yea looks like another (probably) ignorable mechanic that will provide bonus damage or make fights easier, like Pneuma/Ousia.
I think you have the gist of it. The way I understand it is:
Celestia gods > Sinners = Descenders > Skirk and other Abyssal beings = Some of the Hexenzirkel > Dragon Sovereigns > Archons ~ Harbingers > Adepti/Youkai/enlightened elemental beasts > Humans w/ visons > Other elemental lifeforms (vishaps etc) > humans
Traveler is kinda unknown but probably in Sinners/Descenders category because the entire time we play as them, their true power is sealed. Even then, they keep up with Archons and can handily deal with anything below with their own physical skill and borrowed elemental/friendship energy from Teyvat.
Also Hexenzirkel isn't really a combat power thing (mostly), it's the ability to bend Teyvat's laws and create/do things that others cannot, so it's hard to properly rank them. Kinda like the Scarlet Witch in comics where she's off the power scale because she can bend reality.
deanote666
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Keep in mind too that we've yet to see an archon at full power.
Venti is either not very powerful or he downgraded over time. The putz we see isn't the same guy that threw mountain tops into the middle of the ocean.
Rex had already retired, downgraded by the time we saw him.
Raiden could be argued but we don't know if the android is as strong as her body used to be. In the mental space, we ended up losing horribly so we don't know the height of her power.
Nahida is an indoor archon.
Furina had her own circumstances and wasn't a combat type either.
Venti is either not very powerful or he downgraded over time. The putz we see isn't the same guy that threw mountain tops into the middle of the ocean.
Rex had already retired, downgraded by the time we saw him.
Raiden could be argued but we don't know if the android is as strong as her body used to be. In the mental space, we ended up losing horribly so we don't know the height of her power.
Nahida is an indoor archon.
Furina had her own circumstances and wasn't a combat type either.
Icymanipulator
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You know what feels really cheap, is how all the investigation spots in the event area give radish and cabbage… like… they couldn’t even give us some low tier artifacts for XP?
So lame
So lame
Dragon_Rocks
Member
Just started the summer event. WTF kind of Nintendo Wii kiddie shit is this?
InterMusketeer
Member
I think it's fine. It's a summer event, it's supposed to be lighthearted and positive. I assume there will be some Hexenzirkel lore at the end to tie it into the larger story, and that's about what I'd expect.
In a perfect world, we'd get a Natlan preview with a volcano island or something, but that's apparently too much to ask.. I will say though, that I don't quite understand why an origami world is not thematically tied to Inazuma but... it is what it is.
In a perfect world, we'd get a Natlan preview with a volcano island or something, but that's apparently too much to ask.. I will say though, that I don't quite understand why an origami world is not thematically tied to Inazuma but... it is what it is.
Dragon_Rocks
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In previous summer events we fought Maagu Kenki and Fischl doppelganger like stuff. In this one I am helping origami frogs jump and squirrel fly lol.
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