Tallshortman
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lmao neither of those cases has anything to do with sexual orientation based discrimination. Is this literally what you thought would be your home run?
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Georgia's 6th Congressional District Special Election |OT| Round 2: Fight!
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lmao neither of those cases has anything to do with sexual orientation based discrimination. Is this literally what you thought would be your home run?
I'm pretty sure supporting candidates that hate gays, minorities, and the poor is worse and much more toxic. Like not even in the same stratosphere.
TheCochese
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The R candidate was their best ticket to repealing Roe vs Wade and that's why they voted for him.
Lord Frieza
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Evangelicals supported Trump in the primaries when pretty much every other candidate was also pro-life. They were the ones who ultimately won him the primaries. They supported him because, ultimately, Evangelicals are fascists and want a fascist leader.
It doesn't really matter, as that content was based on sex-based discrimination, not sexual orientation. Rover is an idiot.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Why be nice to obvious trolls anyway lol
sleepnaught
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Not even remotely surprised. I've never heard of a single Trump voter turning on him, whether on the internet or real life. Sadly, I fully expect Dems to lose big in 2018 and Trump gliding to a second term. This country is a piece of dog shit, I give up on it.
Even if it was I am consistently baffled by how they believe him wholeheartedly and take him at his word. I get trusting a politician, or believing in one, particularly when they say stuff you want to hear.
But he is literally the least trustworthy person I have ever seen. That's not his standard hyperbole, that's a description. Everything about him says "I am not sincere or reliable, I don't know anything". The way he speaks, the words he uses, the way he uses them, the way he acts, the way he treats other people, the insincere way he does damn near everything that isn't stroking his ego (which always features more lies, but he believes those ones). I wouldn't trust him to tell me the time, I'd have to check a watch to make sure.
To create a metaphor, imagine there's this guy, named Murderous Thompson, who goes around publicly hacking up people with an axe and taking baths in their blood while using their skulls to drink the tears of starving orphans (who he also hacked up), and then he runs for mayor and says on TV "I'm a caring guy, I wouldn't hurt a fly", one of these gullible voters would shout "HE'S INCAPABLE OF HARMING ANYONE, HE'S LITERALLY JESUS INCARNATE AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS LYING".
That's how this situation looks to me.
TheCochese
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As someone who sat and regularly listened to a very evangelical prominent Southern Baptist preacher, I can say that this isn't true. They very harshly criticized his behavior and actions.
Tinfoilhatsron
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I know you're banned but these don't even relate to sexual orientation at all. For fucks sake, can you not even bring actual evidence to support your arguements? Oh right, you can't.
Lord Frieza
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As someone who grew up in an evangelical home and was dragged around to many evangelical households and many conservative churches and sees what his evangelical preacher grandmother reads and watches, I can say that it is true. They loved him, by and large, and both primary and election numbers show that.
This isnt a difference of opinion. This is a serious attempt to start to place some sort of check on a person who is completely and obviously unfit to be the president.
People need to punish the party that caused this disaster.
TheCochese
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You were dragged around to these houses and churches during the election? Fascinating.
IAmAnAgnostic
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Sweeney Tom
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Yep. And while I obviously can't speak for you or others, as a member of the LGBTQ+ community myself I can and will safely say I'm done even for a moment placating or respecting any of their, or their supporters', bullshit.
And yes, if you're going out of your way, bending over backwards, to say that actually they're in the right for trying to kill us at every turn and support them throughout the process of it, I'm going to consider you a supporter whether you feel like admitting it publicly or not. No different from the people who will say they hate Trump or R candidate x yet still show up for them when it comes time to vote, honestly.
plagiarize
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Keep ignoring the warning signs senor Trump.
No they didn't.
Out of every religious group it was evangelicals that skewed sharply to Trump. No other group came close to 70 30 for and against Trump while this group went 80 20.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Humorous how much time and energy and money he and the GOP had to put in those races to maintain status quo. But nothing to worry about here.
Lord Frieza
Member
Obviously, that was when I was younger, but I did go to my grandparents a lot during the election and she often had many evangelical friends over during and Trump was the talk of the group, they loved him, and she still consumes a lot of Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, John Haggee and the many other fascist sympathetic evangelicals. Nice try to discredit me, though, but I know this group way better than you do even if you have an uncle who criticized Trump.
Bam Bam Baklava
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If this were Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, these seats would never even be close enough for people to care. That's kind of the point when you select people to serve your administration, safe seats.
I'm not sure how much I trust polls though after the Presidential election and again after tonight. Obama and Hilary is completely different from Reagan and Bush (which was more of the point I was trying to make). I believe that if Hilary wasn't such a flawed candidate (Democratic fall out with Bernie didn't help) and Obama had a much higher sustained growth (GDP and actual jobs) it would have been a different story (also shows popularity isn't everything). Also, to assume that Republicans are not at all open to the idea of a black president is in itself racist and ignorant. Look at Ben Carson.
Also, I was not making a prediction, just pointing out that if (if) he can turn things around and prove to the people that he can follow through on his promises, they will vote for him again. They will not give him a second chance like most politicians, he only has one chance.
As for popularity, this man is a freaking oddity. He was unpopular and still won by a good margin. Imagine if he ever became popular.
sleepnaught
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What warning signs?
DrForester
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Yes, Democrats will change the country under the proud and righteous banner of "we almost won!"
The supported him because his cries to Make America Great Again hearkens back to a time they feel was morally just.
Its exceedingly clear that the slogan "Make America Great Again" worked with a lot of Republicans and independents. No matter who you are, you can selectively project what you think makes America great. If you're a coal miner, you think coals jobs are coming back. If you're an evangelical, you think you're going back to a time where gay people and abortion didn't exist. If you're a racist, you think minorities are getting the boot. If you're a rich asshole, you think welfare queens are finally getting the hard stick and given some bootstraps.
Again, evangelicals didn't seem to like him from what I saw on TV. But they were clear in their support for him as he would definitely listen to what they had to say and do what they told him what they wanted him to do. The most powerful thing that Trump seemed to, maybe accidentally, tap into is that the Republican base is willing to ignore a whole list of issues as long as their very specific issue is dealt with.
TheCochese
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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...cans-once-skeptical-of-trump-now-support-him/
They were split during the primary and rallied when he was the only choice.
Just wanted to say thank you guys for the conversation tonight. I had a lot of fun with viewing and replying to ideas and post's that don't necessarily fall in line with my way of thinking. Everyone should be more open minded, makes for great conversations. Thank you all and goodnight!
Aggressively ignorant.
Lord Frieza
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I'm not sure how much I trust polls though after the Presidential election and again after tonight. Obama and Hilary is completely different from Reagan and Bush (which was more of the point I was trying to make). I believe that if Hilary wasn't such a flawed candidate (Democratic fall out with Bernie didn't help) and Obama had a much higher sustained growth (GDP and actual jobs) it would have been a different story (also shows popularity isn't everything). Also, to assume that Republicans are not at all open to the idea of a black president is in itself racist and ignorant. Look at Ben Carson.
Also, I was not making a prediction, just pointing out that if (if) he can turn things around and prove to the people that he can follow through on his promises, they will vote for him again. They will not give him a second chance like most politicians, he only has one chance.
As for popularity, this man is a freaking oddity. He was unpopular and still won by a good margin. Imagine if he ever became popular.
Different types of polls, and no, he didn't.
plagiarize
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The significant swing towards Dem in all five of those elections.
But you already knew that.
Sweeney Tom
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What warning signs?
I love that I cannot escape the endless nightmare of November 8th and my fate is tied to a party so insanely useless they can't mobilize against someone with a 35% approval rating
But there's another one in December for the Alabama Senate?
plagiarize
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Turnout was way up for dems in this district. They were drastically outspent and the GOP held on to a district they've never lost.
But sure. This result means the democrats will lose the mid terms and Trump will win a second term.
Why would they need to go to court if their best buddy Trump has their back?
Lord Frieza
Member
No, evangelicals loved Trump. This is pseudo-revisionist history, to be frank. There may have been a small split, but evangelicals supported him over the 'bred for evangelical vote' Ted Cruz, and by a significant margin in the end.
They weren't, not significantly. And I love the irony here. You criticized people in these threads all the time for talking about your district when they didn't live there and didn't really 'know' the area. Positions are flipped now, because I know these people. I grew up among them, and even if I'm not closely associated with them now, through my grandmother I know very well what these people want, and what the people they follow (Robertson, Graham, Hinn, etc) tell them. And they want a fascist/authoritarian leader. And that's why they went with Trump over Cruz or any of the other pro-life, actual Christian-y candidates in the race.
DrForester
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Trump wants you to despair in this result. He's jacking off to your tears and hopelessness. The 6th fucked itself tonight, don't get me wrong. But if you give in and give up, then it's going to be your Eeyore ass I point to in 2018 and 2020 if there's depressed dem turnout.
edit: or fuck it. let's all line up and take shots of bleach. It's all pointless, right?
edit: or fuck it. let's all line up and take shots of bleach. It's all pointless, right?
plagiarize
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Willfully ignorant. When Dems won massive majorities in the house they didn't win GA-6. Losing this doesn't mean they will fail to make significant gains in the house.
You know this of course.
Lord Frieza
Member
I mean, why do you even bother posting in these threads? It's the same shit, and you've obviously lost all hope. Just leave it alone, live your life, and make sure you save a bullet for yourself (and a few more for your family members) when it all crumbles down.
TheCochese
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Son, I was one of those people. Everyone I've ever known are those people. I attend one of those churches.
You told me that there was no reluctant Trump vote.
You told me that I was wrong about my own district.
You're telling me I'm wrong when I can cite a Pew Research link.
Stay down.
Unknown Soldier
Member
What warning signs lol
The elections are closer but (R) still wins in the end. There are no moral victors in American politics lol
DrForester
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
Two people are funding the party to the tune of a billion dollars an elect cycle.
They have plenty of time energy and the money to buy it.
Who's taking a clear leadership role of the party?
Evangelical support for Trump just makes my head spin. "I can't vote for someone that supports abortions, so I'll vote for a man that is a perfect storm of the seven deadly sins." "I can't vote for a man whose pastor said something un-American; I'll vote for this guy that's never been seen at a church service in his life."
Bam Bam Baklava
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Objectively speaking, these are warning signs. Like you wouldn't be pissing yourself in terror if Republicans were mounting credible challenges in D+10/15/20 seats in urban California right now? Be honest.
Lord Frieza
Member
Yeah, it's good that you edited that. You know what I mean, too. You've given up hope, what do you even care. Live your life.
Son, I was one of those people. Everyone I've ever known are those people. I attend one of those churches.
You told me that there was no reluctant Trump vote.
You told me that I was wrong about my own district.
You're telling me I'm wrong when I can cite a Pew Research link.
Stay down.
I won't stay down, because I know these people, and your not going to tell me that I don't because you have a uncle and now you're suddenly one of them.
The midterms it is, then? If the Democrats lose = Major panic???
thecouncil
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So, in all seriousness, what is it that people were seeing in Handel?
All I know about her is that she doesn't think people should earn a livable wage. And I think she just moved to the district after living in DC?
All I know about her is that she doesn't think people should earn a livable wage. And I think she just moved to the district after living in DC?
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