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[Zoe]

Struckmann gave it an

Spoiler

A-

. Others have pretty muched echoed the same thing. Scarlett's doing a good job, and the visuals are great, but the writing is bad and the plot is utterly forgettable..

Bad writing and forgettable plot is worthy of an A-?

 

[aBarreras]

Bad writing and forgettable plot is worthy of an A-?

nvm

 

[Inferno313]

Bad writing and forgettable plot is worthy of an A-?

Formalism is a thing. I somehow doubt Stuckman considers himself a formalist, though.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Struckmann gave it an

Spoiler

A-

. Others have pretty muched echoed the same thing. Scarlett's doing a good job, and the visuals are great, but the writing is bad and the plot is utterly forgettable..

He was low-key blinded by his love of the original. There was no way he was going to give it a bad score.

 

[Javier23]

Cool, thanks man.

I really don't like anime either. I watched the 1995 movie the other night. It blew my mind.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Seeing it tonight for free thanks to a trial membership to Crunchyroll. I'm expecting the worst from Ghost in the Shell, but I'm glad that asian americans like ScarJo are getting the representation they need!

Honestly, give it a rest. Can we have one thread that is entirely focused on the reviews of the film and not fighting about the controversy? You have the OT for that.

 

[formasymphonic]

Ultimately the real questions will be

1) how much money will it make
2) what lessons will they learn (or ignore) from all this
3) what will it mean for future adaptations

 

[Inferno313]

Honestly, give it a rest. Can we have one thread that is entirely focused on the reviews of the film and not fighting about the controversy? You have the OT for that.

Eh, having seen the movie, you kind of can't have a serious conversation about it without talking about "the controversy." The film is, in some ways, literally about it's own controversy.

 

[kmax]

Bad writing and forgettable plot is worthy of an A-?

Yeah I wasn't really clear there.

Spoiler

Stuckmann thought it was legit and genuinely liked it, although it could of been better in some aspects. Others have echoed the same sentiments about the visuals and Scarlett's performance specifically, but have been much more blunt about the plot and the writing.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

But there's also a pretty clear difference between "more than half the people who watched it liked it" and "only a third of the people who watched it liked it", yet both are called "rotten".

I guess, but then the number is still right there for you either way, so you can apply your own granularity with approximately 0 effort, so eh,

 

[ZeoVGM]

Looks to be pretty mixed much like Power Rangers.

(And that was fun as hell so I'm probably in for this.)

 

[le.phat]

Struckmann gave it an

Spoiler

A-

. Others have pretty muched echoed the same thing. Scarlett's doing a good job, and the visuals are great, but the writing is bad and the plot is utterly forgettable..

SO the minus is for bad writing and a terrible plot ? This Struckmann fellow sure sounds like someone i'd want to pay to hear more of his opinions on cinema!

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

Looking it up, it seems like this is only the 5th ever American film adaptation of an anime.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Eh, having seen the movie, you kind of can't have a serious conversation about it without talking about "the controversy." The film is, in some ways, literally about it's own controversy.

I'm seeing it tomorrow, so it will be interesting to see about the scene people were complaining about.

But I have no issues with ScarJo taking the role. She worked hard on the movie, listening to her interview on Howard Stern the other day, she didn't phone it in or just have it handed to her.

 

[Kite]

Looking it up, it seems like this is only the 5th ever American film adaptation of an anime.

Kite
Speed Racer
Dragon Ball Evolution
___?

 

[aBarreras]

Kite
Speed Racer
Dragon Ball Evolution
___?

edge of tomorrow?

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

Kite
Speed Racer
Dragon Ball Evolution
___?

I didn't see Kite on there for some reason. The other two were Guyver 1 and 2 lol.

 

[wamberz1]

edge of tomorrow?

Light novel, not an anime

 

[BlueTsunami]

SO the minus is for bad writing and a terrible plot ? This Struckmann fellow sure sounds like someone i'd want to pay to hear more of his opinions on cinema!

He tends to rate based on emotional impact from the perspective of a geek for this stuff.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Kite
Speed Racer
Dragon Ball Evolution
___?

All You Need is Kill -> Edge of Tomorrow
Transformers?
G-Savior?

 

[kitchenmotors]

He tends to rate based on emotional impact from the perspective of a geek for this stuff.

Which is why I love his reviews. His review of Power Rangers got me hyped after I was super critical of it. Ended up seeing it and loving it.

 

[Kite]

edge of tomorrow?

Think that was originally a novel and later a manga. Anyhow google says there was a Fist of the North Star and Guyver adaptation.. Mark Hamill was in Guyver? rofl

ok back on topic.

edit:

I didn't see Kite on there for some reason.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

I guess, but then the number is still right there for you either way, so you can apply your own granularity with approximately 0 effort, so eh,

So then why designate it at all as either Rotten or Fresh?

It's really stupid that there's is literally a single percent between the two

 

[Sölf]

Hm, well, predictable. And I am not suprised at all. Might be a good movie to watch on BluRay, if the aestetics are really that good and it's still a decent action flick.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

So then why designate it at all as either Rotten or Fresh?

It's really stupid that there's is literally a single percent between the two

I mean again, yeah, I guess. But again, it's not like the pertinent information isn't already given to you. My point is the metric itself is much more usable than the average, not that one has to bother with the extra scale they added.

 

[Spieler Eins]

Even when percentage was still up, the actual average rating was already a mere 6/10.

 

[squall23]

Manga adaptation, but Edge of Tomorrow is at 91

All You Need Is Kill is a light novel though.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

All You Need Is Kill is a light novel though.

It's a manga too

 

[george_us]

There was an American Kite film?

Starring Samuel motherfuckin' Jackson?!

 

[- J - D -]

Collider's video review (non-spoiler): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlO3g47_rgY

It's nice to have differing perspectives from the panel, moreso because two of the reviewers are Asian American.

 

[Slayven]

The puns in these blurbs...

Anyway, missed the my free screening last night but they compensated me with passes for the weekend.

I cringed

There was an American Kite film?

Starring Samuel motherfuckin' Jackson?!

And it was bad

 

[anaron]

Disappointed it landed around the fiftys after the 70% but I always thought it likely would settle there.


Seeing it Saturday so I'm excited!

 

[TheTylerRob]

Movie that can't be talked about without people bringing up white washing get's mediocre reviews huh

 

[Desmond]

I don't know wanna go into spoiler territory but I'm just back from it and people complaining about whitewashing

Spoiler

they actually address it in the film regarding her name etc

This was reviewing so well earlier haha

 

[Zoe]

I don't know wanna go into spoiler territory but I'm just back from it and people complaining about whitewashing

Spoiler

they actually address it in the film regarding her name etc

This was reviewing so well earlier haha

Salt in the wound

 

[MMarston]

He was low-key blinded by his love of the original. There was no way he was going to give it a bad score.

Struckmann is low-key blinded by everything.

 

[Tye The Czar]

I HAVE A HALF-ROTTEN RATING ON RT.


I AM MAJOR

Spoiler

FAILURE

Spoiler

I'm not sorry.

 

[Whompa02]

I'm excited to see it! Seems divisive.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Struckmann is low-key blinded by everything.

There's a 9 out of 10 chance he'll favorably rate the film if he grew up with it lol

 

[Lights and Waves]

X-post from the OT thread:

Just saw it. Holy shit. One million times worse than I thought it would be. PLEASE DO NOT WATCH THIS.

The absolutely IRONY of this literally being a ghost of a better movie in a prettier shell.

The music was great, and they made good use of the iconic chorus from the original. That's the only good thing I can say.

The subplot they added was so goddam embarrassing. I really wish they would have just done a shot for shot remake of the original.

My audience heckled at the "big reveal" about the Major. Rightfully so.

This movie is an insult to the original. They gutted everything that made the film intelligent.

 

[radios shipping overview]

I didn't know this existed. This is amazing.

 

[grosvenor_92]

Apart of me wants to go see it despite it current rating of 50%. Honestly won't be surprised if it drops more overnight though

 

[Gattsu25]

Think that was originally a novel and later a manga. Anyhow google says there was a Fist of the North Star and Guyver adaptation.. Mark Hamill was in Guyver? rofl

ok back on topic.

edit:

Holy shit this is real?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_(2014_film)

Like, isn't the original anime problematic as thee fuck?

 

[MMarston]

There's a 9 out of 10 chance he'll favorably rate the film if he grew up with it lol

"Personally I..."

 

[Black Republican]

You're forgetting Tom Hanks and how he really brought African Americans into cinema.

"Last nigga on Earth"

 

[Goodstyle]

There's a 9 out of 10 chance he'll favorably rate the film if he grew up with it lol

He grew up with a lot of things.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Looks to be pretty mixed much like Power Rangers.

(And that was fun as hell so I'm probably in for this.)

This is exactly why im going to see this Saturday.

 

[Timu]

Down to 50% now.

 

[shintoki]

Holy shit this is real?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_(2014_film)

Like, isn't the original anime problematic as thee fuck?

Kite is porn.

It's also shit, so I'm not really sure if the Live Action is any better.

Looks to be pretty mixed much like Power Rangers.

(And that was fun as hell so I'm probably in for this.)

To be fair, Power Rangers' source material is shit. It turned out to be a pretty solid flick riding on a strong cast and decent coming of age plot. It turning out to be mixed is more along the lines of expected to be shit, but they did a lot more with it then the material had any right to be.

GITS on the other hand has some of the best music, animation, and art style. With the SAC series providing an extremely strong source material to adapt the plot from. There is no excuse for them not to be able to adapt a strong flick from it. It having strong visuals, but shit plot as mixed is more of a damn shame.

 

[jett]

Down to 50% now.