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Giant Bomb #25 | A Fun Time with Friends

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Maiden Voyage

Maiden Voyage

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Demption said:
Should i buy Hitman even though i have watched every GB video of it?
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It took me a while to really get it. I played through each map once and the idea of returning to a map was a huge turn off. After beating Hokkaido, I unlocked
the samurai costume and shurikens
. I decided to replay the mission and wound up doing a run without being spotted once and only killing the targets. That clicked with me in a way that made me want to go back to each map and try the same thing. That playthrough made me realize Hitman is a puzzle game. I love puzzle games. I have level 20 (the most) mastery on every map and 100% achievements. I normally don't do that stuff but Hitman reeled me in big time.

That said, your mileage will vary on how much you enjoy the gameplay. It's at least worth playing through each map once to see how cool some of the deaths are.
 
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Curufinwe

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The Right Deal said:
I've been in a DMC mood recently and stumbled across Bradley May Cry, should I watch the series? At the start Brad and Vinny mention possibly going through all three games on the collection but I know they only did the first, was it because they were super down on the game? I wouldn't want to watch if it just turns into a big bummer.
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They just ran out of time before Vinny moved East. It's worth watching, but the old-fashioned controls and continue system in DMC HD make it a bit of a slog at times.

DMC 3 HD is much more modern and forgiving on both counts (at least in Gold Orb mode), but they never got that far, sadly.
 
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Curufinwe

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LurkerPrime said:
I doubt it. Will it even be mentioned? Like, aside from the awful performance at launch, it's a superb addition to the franchise.

But then, XCOM 2 made the mortal sin of being a sequel to XCOM: EU. Now... I don't mean just an iteration, but a response to everything that XCOM: EU and Enemy Within are. It's designed for people that have played the former, with a difficulty curve that, I imagine, will turn off a lot of people straightaway, particularly if they weren't into XCOM.

As much of a shame as this will be during this end of year stuff, the actual game we got was worth that sort of sacrifice, I think.


This has been a really nice return-to-form year for Firaxis, actually. Between XCOM 2 and Civ6, they're back to strategy kings.
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It's on my list of games that I want to play next year when I get a PS4 Pro, if it gets a performance patch. I got thru XCOM on the PS3 so I don't need it to be perfect or anything, but the load times in XCOM 2 sound pretty awful, especially late in the game.
 
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pizzacat

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mnz said:
No it is not. I really don't want to post any links to that garbage, but it was someone else. Wu talked about that other person in an interview.
And think about it: why would a game developer want to get hired by GB?
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To not work anymore

Follow the money
 
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Zaph

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Human Trashcan

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Data West said:
Yes it is.
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It wasn't. Pretty sure it was Maddy Myers you're thinking of, and she's good people. A lot of people were frustrated with GB hiring 2 more straight white dudes. I think it's a mischaracterization to say she was just salty because she didn't get hired.

Zaph said:
Wu is our version of someone who means well, is fighting for the right things, but goes about it really wrong and is generally best ignored.
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Accurate.
 
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ArjanN

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Demption said:
Should i buy Hitman even though i have watched every GB video of it?
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Yes, it's not a one and done game at all.

YuriLowell said:
I play fighting games in general. The core fighting in SF5 is fantastic. Maybe I just bounced off the game too fast and need to go back and give it another chance, but I feel like there is no way that the Bomb crew doesn't nominate SF5 for most disappointing.
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Honestly I was hoping for some more pushback from Jason regarding SFV, the Bomb crew's opinions on it every time it comes up seems somwhat colored by all the pretty overblown negativity around the game, combined with them having not enough time due to the needs of their jobs to really get into it and see for themselves it's actually one of the best games of the year.

In a similar way they could have easily written off Hitman whch also had a bunch of negativity around it at first, and didn't more or less by accident got caught up in playing more and more of it.

I basically agree 100% with what sixghost said about it:

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The game obviously had problems at first, but even then it was mostly things that were peripheral to actually playing the game. The actual game is pretty great, the net code is the best I've ever seen in a fighting game by a huge margin, the cast of characters is awesome so far, the tournament scene seems healthy.

It's been really weird watching parts of GAF treat SF5 like a dumpster fire all year while I've just been quietly enjoying it.
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funkystudent

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Jeff seemed weirdly hyped for that game for whatever reason. Dude thought it was this huge get by Sony when they locked it down. LOL.

Maybe its because I got into fighting games when Tekken was big but Street Fighter always seemed like the old man's bare bones fighting ass fighting game. And that's what SFV is (with a really terrible UI)

I am disappointed Street Fighter didn't try play catch up with what MK and Tekken but I am not surprised.
 
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Curufinwe

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I found a better thumbnail for the latest Bombcast.

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Dangansona

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Whenever GB starts talking about the uselessness of movie theaters I die a little inside. And they live in SF where they get super cool theaters!!

Also I got my members shirt in the mail and it's a little too small. How do they do size exchanges?
 
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Mupod

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It's the netcode complaints about SFV that bother me. Do people even remember SF4 or MVC3? Or the unplayable trash that was MK9 netcode? I had a bad match here and there but never the underwater slowmo garbage that I've put up with in other fighters. It was good enough to rekindle my interest in fighting other folks online.

There's still nothing else that really disappointed me this year, though. I have realistic expectations of most games I buy but I can't account for devs saying one thing and doing another. Delaying daily challenges until I'd long since moved on to other games was a big problem, I wasn't gonna grind survival or get piddly amounts of FM from doing thousands of matches online. This was specifically disappointing because they said it'd be in early on, and it was pushed WAY back.

They were pretty cagey about what would actually be in the launch version as well, I can't say I wasn't disappointed at how barebones it was. I would have bought it day 1 regardless, because I desperately wanted more of what I had in the beta. And I got it, but not much more.

Demption said:
Should i buy Hitman even though i have watched every GB video of it?
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Absolutely. On my first run through I didn't finish any levels in remotely the same ways Brad/Dan did. You've also been armed with the knowledge of how to play Hitman in the most incorrect way possible, so just do the opposite of what they did and you're guaranteed a Silent Assassin rating.

Human Trashcan said:
It ran like total dogshit for me on a 980. The final mission was completely broken, but it had been a mess up until that point, with some turns taking forever to process and framerate just being shit. Lots of people had a bad experience, just because you didn't doesn't invalidate those people. It's one of the poorest major PC-only releases I've ever played from a technical perspective.
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That's what I mean though, I'm honestly confused as to why there were such varied accounts. I don't understand how it could possibly run badly on a 980 and be playable on a comparatively prehistoric 5770. I had a 970 that was running at similar speeds to a stock 980 and it was fine. I vaguely remember the game launching with overkill levels of MSAA by default which is one explanation, but leaving that on when the game is suffering from it would be some Dan level shit.
 
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Human Trashcan

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Mupod said:
That's what I mean though, I'm honestly confused as to why there were such varied accounts. I don't understand how it could possibly run badly on a 980 and be playable on a comparatively prehistoric 5770. I had a 970 that was running at similar speeds to a stock 980 and it was fine. I vaguely remember the game launching with overkill levels of MSAA by default which is one explanation, but leaving that on when the game was suffering from it is some Dan level shit.
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Oh sure but that's not me, I even tried with AA completely off, shadows low, every major performance-affecting setting. I will say I don't have the best processor (4460), but if that's bottlenecking a game like XCOM 2 *that* hard, it's still really poorly optimized. By comparison, DOOM runs amazing pretty much fully maxed out. There's such a wide gulf there it's ridiculous.
 
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stump sock

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Mupod said:
That's what I mean though, I'm honestly confused as to why there were such varied accounts. I don't understand how it could possibly run badly on a 980 and be playable on a comparatively prehistoric 5770. I had a 970 that was running at similar speeds to a stock 980 and it was fine. I vaguely remember the game launching with overkill levels of MSAA by default which is one explanation, but leaving that on when the game is suffering from it would be some Dan level shit.
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I played it on a 970 with caveman settings and it still ran like total shit. in an era of poorly optimized PC games, that PC-only strategy game, of all things, is one of the worst.

Human Trashcan said:
By comparison, DOOM runs amazing pretty much fully maxed out. There's such a wide gulf there it's ridiculous.
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on the same setup, I can run doom on Ultra and it never dips below 100fps
 
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Zaph

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Lunar FC said:
I just bought some AirPods. 😐
I'm generally an anti Apple person.
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I was gonna give them a chance because they're cheaper than the Dash, but finding out you can't skip/prev a track without using your phone or siri killed their main use for me (the tube).
 
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Mupod

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This XCOM thing is gonna drive me crazy until I find out what was fucking it up for some people. I wonder if the patches since then have improved it - I do plan to throw my 6700k/2x970 at it in the near future as I haven't touched it since before they added any season pass content.
 
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Zaph

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Mupod said:
This XCOM thing is gonna drive me crazy until I find out what was fucking it up for some people. I wonder if the patches since then have improved it - I do plan to throw my 6700k/2x970 at it in the near future as I haven't touched it since before they added any season pass content.
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The patches massively helped with performance on my machine

Lunar FC said:
I had this same question before purchsing them. Multiple guys in the airpod thread said there's a setting where you can toggle if you want tap to trigger siri or to play/pause and that for non apple devices, double tap will always play/pause.
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Yeah, the toggle is for play/pause, but the reviews claim you can't do the double or triple tap for skip/prev
 
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Lunar FC

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Zaph said:
I was gonna give them a chance because they're cheaper than the Dash, but finding out you can't skip/prev a track without using your phone or siri killed their main use for me (the tube).
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I had this same question before purchsing them. Multiple guys in the airpod thread said there's a setting where you can toggle if you want tap to trigger siri or to play/pause and that for non apple devices, double tap will always play/pause.
 
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shiftplusone

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is Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel actually the best fighting game of 2016

its 20 bucks on amazon, I liked the quick look, they seemed to actually enjoy it but never touch it again

Austin campaigned for it for TGAs
 
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LiK

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shiftplusone said:
is Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel actually the best fighting game of 2016

its 20 bucks on amazon, I liked the quick look, they seemed to actually enjoy it but never touch it again

Austin campaigned for it for TGAs
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It's fun. Last boss is fucking hard tho.
 
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Mupod

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I should give Nitroplus Blasterz a shot, you'd think I would considering I'm at least familiar with some of the source material like Demonbane. I already own enough fighting games I don't play, though. Fucking Guilty Gear, every time I buy it and don't know why.
 
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KillerDark

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Demption said:
Should i buy Hitman even though i have watched every GB video of it?
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Absolutely, I watched every Hitman video of GB's and still enjoy Hitman a ton, its easily one of the best games of the year. Very fun and feels great when you pull off your goal, whether that be Silent Assassin or just beating the mission for the first time.
 
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Dineren

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I'm looking forward to hearing their thoughts on Astroneer once I get a chance to watch the video. It still feels super early, but there is a lot in there I like so far and their roadmap for the game is promising.
 
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BreezyLimbo

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Dineren said:
I'm looking forward to hearing their thoughts on Astroneer once I get a chance to watch the video. It still feels super early, but there is a lot in there I like so far and their roadmap for the game is promising.
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I will say this:

There are multiple times where they say 'Well that's it' but they keep playing

happens like 3 times. So it's got their attention to say the least
 
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Ninja Scooter

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I'm glad Brad pulled that Nidhogg email just so they could tear it apart. It sounded like the kind of stupid "lazy devs" thread that would get made here.
 
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The Right Deal

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Curufinwe said:
They just ran out of time before Vinny moved East. It's worth watching, but the old-fashioned controls and continue system in DMC HD make it a bit of a slog at times.

DMC 3 HD is much more modern and forgiving on both counts (at least in Gold Orb mode), but they never got that far, sadly.
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Thanks, got through part 1 last night and really enjoyed it, Vinny when he is on is amazing and offsets brad getting a little frustrated at the game.

Really enjoyed the Bombcast, I have a soft-spot for podcats i listen to delving into ghost stories or creepy experiences, so I liked Jason's story, a solid start to the Dan-less era.

Also, KoF XIV is the best fighting game this year, hands down.
 
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Toparaman

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I couldn't disagree more with Jeff on Mario Run. I love its unique twist on the standard Mario formula, and I think it's a great value for the money. It really does feel like a quality Nintendo game that you can play in very short bursts.

I think playing hours of super hard Mario Maker levels may have altered Jeff's and Dan's expectations for 2D Mario. I skipped out on Mario Maker, and every NSMB game as well, for what it's worth.
 
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mnz

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Jeff talking about the coins was a little weird. Don't they have a pretty different function in SMR compared to the mainline Mario games? I think he would actually like the challenge of those.
 
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Xater

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Mango Madness said:
I couldn't disagree more with Jeff on Mario Run. I love its unique twist on the standard Mario formula, and I think it's a great value for the money. It really does feel like a quality Nintendo game that you can play in very short bursts.

I think playing hours of super hard Mario Maker levels may have altered Jeff's and Dan's expectations for 2D Mario. I skipped out on Mario Maker, and every NSMB game as well, for what it's worth.
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I'm with you. It really reeks off: This isn't what I know, so it's shit.
 
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