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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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I can't say this is true about Yakuza 0, but I'd be lying if I said I haven't passed on Life is Strange - even on deep, dirt cheap sales - because I watched the whole Beast play through and felt I got all I wanted out of it. I don't think Atlus's "no streaming past a certain point or we'll DMCA your ass" shit is the right way to go about it, but I do wish game developers were better compensated for stuff like this. Streaming is great for multiplayer games and a few other genres, but it's hard to deny that games that are entirely about the story get hurt when that whole story can be watched online without the devs getting a dime.
 
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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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I started out with watching BitE then later I bought it because I heard so much good about the game and I like what I saw when they played it so I got a little influenced by BitE.

And the game is so much better being played than watched, I'm enjoying the combat and yhe heat moves, the karaoke and dancing are great as well.

I get so much more out of the game playing it rather than watching it.

If we're talking a FMV game I think there is a case to be made about streaming the whole game, that it could be bad for the makers of said game.
 
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Mr. F

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A lot of people in the Direct thread are hyping Smash Bros but I really hope they leave it alone for a while. Would rather see the dev resources they've frontloaded for the first year of Switch's life allocated to something new/actually good.
 
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Dangansona said:
I am completely sympathetic to the concern of publishers when it comes to full game playthroughs. And at least anecdotally you totally read comments online of people saying they just watched the let's play instead of buying the game. IDK :/

As someone who bought the game and had already played it though it's a lot of fun.
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Yeah, I've read those too. But I've also read comments of people at least saying they want to buy a game after watching a video. I imagine it's incredibly hard to gauge the effect of Twitch/YouTube, both positively and negatively. You kind of just need to hedge your bets, and a single player story-driven game has way more to lose by being watched online.

I can say, form my own experience, that I've watched the Persona 4 endurance run, and I loved it to bits. That said, the idea of spending another 70 hours on my own playthrough when it would be largely the same seems ludicrous to me.

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A lot of people in the Direct thread are hyping Smash Bros but I really hope they leave it alone for a while. Would rather see the dev resources they've frontloaded for the first year of Switch's life allocated to something new/actually good.
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Weird. it seems like it would be completely counter-intuitive to the two multiplayer-centric games they want to kick start by undermining it with a much bigger multiplayer game.
 
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Mr. F said:
A lot of people in the Direct thread are hyping Smash Bros but I really hope they leave it alone for a while. Would rather see the dev resources they've frontloaded for the first year of Switch's life allocated to something new/actually good.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't hear about a port at E3. It's one of their biggest franchises, and Smash players will buy the hardware if they haven't already.

I was a huge Melee fan, still was playing it right up to the release of Smash 4, and played quite a bit of Smash 4. But I don't think I'll be picking up a port of it
 
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Data West

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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I never would have bought Yakuza 0 with or without the feature. (I only watched an episode and a half of it before bouncing off for that matter)

Anecdotally, I can also confirm that I bought a copy of Persona 4 (and also a copy of Persona 3 for that matter) because of the P4 ER.

The copy of P4 is still shrink-wrapped. P3 I opened, played, and hated.


edit - oh yeah, another poster below reminded me that I also bought Contradiction due to the GB playthrough.


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can someone spoil me the plot of TLC
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Wiener stuff.
 
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StudsMcKewl

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing?
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I just realized that I purchased P4, Arena, Arena Ultimax, SMT IV, and P5 because of the P4 Endurance Run.
 
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The Technomancer

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Damn. Yooka Laylee looks like such a bummer. I mean, they may have picked a bad place to start but that boss fight is some bullshit

I'm not even a fan of Rare collectathons (I don't dislike them I literally have no opinion on them) but I was sort of thinking of checking it out because of how gorgeous it looks. But it doesn't look fun to play
 
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broncobuster

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Yooka Laylee looks to be a game from 1997 instead of doing the Shovel Knight and Doom thing of evoking a game for their eras while updating what did and didn't work.
 
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Dineren

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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Watching it is pretty much the only reason I was tempted to buy it at all. I ultimately didn't, but that was only because I didn't really enjoy the other Yakuza games. They did manage to sell me on Contradiction and Life is Strange, so at least for me, their videos have only encouraged me to buy things I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
 
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Catvoca

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Yooka-Laylee evokes some nostalgia in me of all the b-tier platformers from the PS2/Xbox gen like Kao the Kangaroo and Ty the Tasmanian Tiger.
 
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Joeku

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?
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Sort of. But it did make me dig out my copy of Yakuza 1 and give it another go. It certainly makes me appreciate the series as a whole and makes me want to pick later ones up for myself.

So let me put it this way:
GB plays Persona 4, I see that it seems pretty good -> I buy the next one
GB never played Persona 4 -> I see people praise the new one and maybe give it a shot

It's banking goodwill at the very least.
 
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robotrock said:
I don't blame you for not watching last week's UPF, but uh...there's some stuff in the new Mass Effect game
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Oh yeahhh. I totally forgot about
making the aliens fuck.
Haha, yeah they're totally in the clear then.

Guess I thought guidelines were a little more restricted.

Man, Giant Bomb is wild.

Thanks robotrock.

PS:
I've watched UPF the past two weeks.
 
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Blitzrules240

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Man, that premium account is like an HBO GO account. It all makes sense now.

Also I just wanted a reason to post a picture of Les Moonves.

Needs more Larry David though.
 
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Kimaka

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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I still would have got it even if I didn't already have it. Besides the story, the minigames are a big attraction. I love all the little side things you can do such as karaoke, dancing, cabaret management and it isn't the same watching them do it. I doubt they will get very far in some of the side stuff anyway.

I do feel this way about Persona 4, though. While I now own Persona 3, 4, and 5 because of their playthough, I don't have much of a desire to finish 4 myself. There isn't a lot of variance besides what you do in a day or who you date so I don't feel like I'm missing much just having only watched their playthrough.
 
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OG Loc

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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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I thought I was here until I saw this new episode with all the business shit and now I want to try this myself
 
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killroy87 said:
Purely anecdotal poll time;

Does anyone currently watching Beast in the East (and planning to finish the series) feel like they are getting all they'll need from Yakuza 0 by watching the feature, and have decided against purchasing it?

I ask because I've been thinking a lot about the Atlus/Persona streaming bullshit, and as much as I think it's the wrong move, I can empathize with the thought process of "So much of the Persona experience is the story, why would anyone buy it if they've watched it all already?"

This Yakuza 0 playthrough is a similar thing. Sure, the gameplay is actually really fun, but the story and characters are the standout aspect. So I'm wondering if anyone is willing to be honest and say "yeah, I may have bought it after watching the first little bit, but it won't be that enjoyable after seeing it all play out for me."
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Speaking for myself it's been a decade now since reviews or a look at a certain game has influenced me to buy it because if I'm interested in a game, even in the slightest then I'm going to buy it and check it out. As for Yakuza 0, I got the game when it released because I'm a fan of the series. HOWEVER, even if I weren't a fan and my exposure was only BITE then it would have pushed me to get into the series because if there's more crazy shit to be found in the game, then I want in because obviously they won't be able to see everything the game has to offer.

On the other hand, I've never been into turn based JRPGs so, the Persona 4 Endurance Run was the only way I've consumed that game. It's not like I'm going to buy it because I have no interest to do so even if GB didn't do an endurance run, I'm still not going to get it. The ER just made it easier for me to get why people love those games so much.
 
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Mr. F

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Kind of wish they would look at more Switch stuff, despite Jeff lamenting the lack of games there's a growing number of eShop titles I'd definitely appreciate QLs of.
 
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patapuf

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I tend to find watching playthroughs of games more fun if i've played the game.

So, GB definetly got me to buy some games, like most recently, contradiction.

But Yakuza, Persona ect. belong to a category of JRPG i'm simply not willing to invest the time into. I can't to 50+ hours dungeon crawl/open world grind anymore.
 
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