I am sure they patched it before playing.
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I am sure they patched it before playing.
Patrick said it was after the patch
Yeah day 1 patch installed
Empty Space
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I feel Patrick was less trying to be critical of the game and more trying to get Ryan to show something else that he was more familiar with, which would have hopefully shown the game in a better light.
Huh...
I haven't watched the stream yet because I want to avoid spoilers but I really can't find any way a backpack clipping would have any effect on a game cert process lol...
Desmond was wearing a white hoodie and a black messenger bag on his back. His white ass back bulge that was in his hoodie would clip through the bag every time he started walking.
Still waiting on that stairs GIF.
grimshawish
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Yeah only just tuned in at the end but there seemed to be a 'oh were running out of time to sell this' moment :/
Its not a great sign when that moment is not action based but just NPC's walking around a town...theres a number of them but its hardly groundbreaking and certainly not interesting.
I always get caught up in the pre-release stuff of AC but when I see the final game...it just looks reasonably broken. I don't understand the combat, stick PoP combat in there and am bought. Also the shooting stuff isn't as cool as it originally looked, its pretty ridiculous in game.
I haven't watched the quick look, but is it like Link's cap always clipping through the shield on his back? I don't get how something that simple is just ignored.
Ok...that's a bad bug but it still doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft/Sony's cert.
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh god THIS DOES MY HEAD IN.
That small graphical glitch is the least of the game's problems bugwise.
I'm surprised people rated the game this high when it looks like this AFTER the day 1 patch that fixes 20 or so gamebreaking bugs.
Desmond's hoodie had an unusually large bulge in the bottom left part on his back. It was definitely clipping through it after seeing it in multiple angles.
Empty Space
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No it was really fucking terrible clipping. This isn't really something new to the AC games though Ezio special armor had bad clipping in AC:B and I think the pre-order bonus in AC:R did too.
I personally had enough of Europeans
Was? Pff.
bearythebear
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Would love one from Alexandria in its hay day. Worst thing that can happen to AC franchise is a game that's set in the future.
Yep, the QL was fine. I don't expect them to play perfectly, that was never the point of QLs.
The game, however, does look unpolished in so many ways. From severe clipping errors to AI bugs. Vegetation models also look kinda rough at close-up. Not really what I was expecting after seeing the first screenshots of this game.
CambriaRising
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I didn't think it looked any worse than the other AC games in terms of bugs, clipping, animation, etc.
Foliorum Viridum
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Patrick showing up for Halo 2 on this marathon is a nice change of pace. Drew telling the story about his mum was great.
Hot Coldman
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So when does Disney buy CBSi
I need Johnny V and GB under one roof and it's never seemed more possible
I need Johnny V and GB under one roof and it's never seemed more possible
Felix Lighter
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They own ABC. I don't think they could get away with buying another national broadcast network.
I think the beauty of Assassins creed is they can have the game in almost any time period.
Although it would be awkward now to take away guns.
funkystudent
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Im not really a "guy x just sucks at the game" but Ryan was clearly having a off day.
Watching him walk around in cycle for 5 minutes during the Desmond bit after plugging in the cube thingy was just painful to watch.
I turned it off after not long after that.
Also given his love for AC2 and brotherhood it should have had Vinny instead of Patrick.
Watching him walk around in cycle for 5 minutes during the Desmond bit after plugging in the cube thingy was just painful to watch.
I turned it off after not long after that.
Also given his love for AC2 and brotherhood it should have had Vinny instead of Patrick.
Hot Coldman
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They got away with buying another childhood
CambriaRising
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Maybe not cert but I can't believe it would pass Ubisoft's own play testing. It's so sloppy.
Felix Lighter
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Sounds anticompetitive.
Yeah well...
Working in QA myself (not for Ubi but for another big publisher), I can guarantee you that the VAST majority of bugs encountered in any games have been seen first by a tester at some point during the process and entered in the database. It's rarely the testers' fault if you encounter a bug in a game (we do miss some from time to time of course, we're human).
You would be amazed to see the state of the bug database when some of those games are released. It's very common to release a big game like that with litterally thousands of still open bugs. Most of those issues are very minor and you would never encounter them (1 in a million kind of thing) but still.
If a game is buggy on release it's not because QA didn't do his job, it's because the bugs were not fixed. Most of the time it's because they ran out of time or money (or both) and won't take the risk to attempt a fix. With games complex as they are nowadays, fixing an issue almost always automatically create other issues.
Empty Space
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That's all very true, but does an issue like a character model clipping through itself really count as a bug? That seems to be more of design thing that is born out of laziness or I guess money.
Of course it's a bug...we call those "C Bugs" (A being the most important and C the least important).... So for example a crash would be an A bug. Some small graphical glitch like that would be a C bug.
The developper will obviously focus his time and money on fixing the A bugs since 1-They are the most important and 2-They are the ones that could fail you a cert.
A lot of C bugs will still be fixed along the way but they're never a priority. A C bug will never fail you a cert.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be fixed...of course they still suck but it's hardly a priority in the grand scheme of things. Especial since, like I said earlier, fixing a C bug in the first level could create a brand new A bug in the second to last level of the game. You can't take that kind of risk when you are only a couple of weeks away from submission.
Still no excuse for a general lack of polish in a game but this is how it work from the QA/Publisher point of view.
brianmcdoogle
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Why would they hold it back? I mean, the press, and certainly gamers, really don't care about this kind of stuff. For example, look how well the resident evil games still sell. It has never been a great series, and even to those who like it will probably admit there are more bad games than good ones now.
As long as gamers continue to preorder games like idiots to get exclusives, as long as marketing budgets come close to the budgets of the games themselves, and as long as People continue to buy games simply because they are "fans of the genre" or "fans of the series", these bugs will continue to be prevalent because it will not impact sales whatsoever. This is everyone's fault.
MikeE21286
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I want my bombcast
Is there one this week?
StopMakingSense
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Why wouldn't there be?
Why wouldn't there be one?
Oh and watching the 24 hours of Halo is just so refreshing to have just Drew and Alexis playing. So great to see these guys just have a great time playing a game they love (even if I don't really care for Halo myself).
I want my bombcast
See:
That was posted just over 3 hours ago. I'm guessing they're recording right now, and it'll be coming in hot.
Also: Possible vindication for me? See! They DO record on Tuesdays occasionally! (This refers to last week's Bombcast thread).
I'm trying to imagine a major film being released full of boom mics visible in frame, cars in the background in films set in the 17th century, disappearing beards and mustaches from one shot to the next during the same scene, etc... these errors happen but rarely are they so prominent. It's a matter of caring about your work. Software is always going to have bugs, but a clipping bug literally at the front and center of the game is pretty bad.
StopMakingSense
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They've actually recorded quite a bit on Tuesdays lately. Hence the later podcasts.
brianmcdoogle
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Gladiator had someone wearing jeans. Glory had a enslaved kid lift his hand right in front of the camera to wave goodbye to people while wearing a wristwatch in 1860s. The Shining had the helicopter shadow on the side of the mountain in the first minute of the film. Lots of old movies have airplanes in the skies, and so on. The car in Bullit had way too many hubcaps falloff of it. I can name a bunch of movies and television shows that have boom macs visible, or the shadows of them visible.
I can go on and on, and these silly mistakes don't even begin to address editing and spacial issues in many popular movies that people fawn over and over-analyze , like Inception and the Batman movies. These are even greater technical issues than the ones I listed above, but unless you understand film, you won't pick up on them.
The issue isn't that these bugs should or shouldn't exist, but that the audience and reviewers are, frankly, too dumb, don't care, or bend over backwards to justify their purchase, or defend their "favorite series", to make them of any consequence.
RomanticHeroX
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Farming out the Desmond bits to shitty low-tier teams really cements in my mind that everything about the AC series would be better without Desmond.
Empty Space
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Your absolutely right and that really sucks for the people who do notice it. Did you seriously see all those thing on your own in those movies you listed or were they pointed out to you? I've only picked up on those things in well made films after seeing same movie 5+ times. Its damn impressive if you did I'm nowhere near that observant.
They don't do Vita QLs.
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