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[Lunar FC]

Somebody needs to make a 'VR for Dummies' thread.

 

[Zaph]

Getting tired, I hope Will Smith is on soon to show his thing

 

[stump sock]

Jeff is color blind?

yeah he doesn't do well with red. I have trouble seeing greens. it's always funny watching him struggle with color puzzles when our eyes are broken in different ways

 

[Croatoan]

Except for occulsion and things behind you, 2 move controllers could play those games.

Hoverjunkers - yes.
Audio game with shields - yes.
Pirate trainer - yes as long as its 180 degrees in front of you.

But I dont think Sony will go beyond standing with 2 x moves (accidents and law suits lol)

Hoverjunkers - no.

PSVR doesn't support 360 turning with the move controllers.

 

[geordiemp]

Jeff "hail satan"

Hoverjunkers - no.

PSVR doesn't support 360 turning.

They could come up with something, they will ahve same issue with occulus as thats camera as well isnt it ?

 

[Myggen]

Giant Bomb XXII Hail Satan

 

[Raticus79]

Hopefully that high-bandwidth low-latency wireless video transmission tech works out, because that would indeed solve so many issues. Wouldn't mind at all having to wear a "battery belt" if it meant losing the tether entirely.

Foveated rendering would help out a lot in both respects. Say you have a protocol that can handle sending a low-res full screen and a high-res focus area and the receiving device reassembles them - much less data to transmit. If you're wearing the computer, having less to render means more battery life. Should be on the order of 10-50x, depending on how good the eye tracking is.

Would definitely need very low latency for eye tracking to work wirelessly.

 

[giant_frying_pan]

Giant Bomb 22 | HAIL SATAN

EDIT - Beaten with superior numerals

 

[Kelas]

Yeah I'm not a fan of this teleportation movement at all.

 

[Drakendodertje]

Why is that blonde guy looking so goddamn serious all the time. You're gaming, not finding a cure for cancer. Lighten up a little..

 

[kvk1]

Why is that blonde guy looking so goddamn serious all the time. You're gaming, not finding a cure for cancer. Lighten up a little..

lol

 

[Wallach]

jeff's a natural swordfighter

 

[Death Metalist]

lmao, what do you think about this? followed by waggle waggle.

 

[Kathian]

Seriously the Vive is just the superior product by a good mile.

 

[Zaph]

Why is that blonde guy looking so goddamn serious all the time. You're gaming, not finding a cure for cancer. Lighten up a little..

Drew's a sleeper agent awaiting activation. Give him time.

 

[MrGerbils]

Why is that blonde guy looking so goddamn serious all the time. You're gaming, not finding a cure for cancer. Lighten up a little..

Pew De Pie videos are thattaway

 

[Armaly]

Just tuned in. Have they done TimeMachine VR?

 

[Wollan]

Hoverjunkers - no.

PSVR doesn't support 360 turning.

It does. There's LED lights on the back.

 

[arevin01]

I think people are not even putting the prices of these games in consideration, for what they offer, it's fucking insane.

These games can barely pass for $10 on mobile, yet they want $40.

 

[Pestilence11]

lmao, what do you think about this? followed by waggle waggle.

lol I lost it at that.

 

[Croatoan]

Yeah I'm not a fan of this teleportation movement at all.

I don't think anyone is. I hope devs include WASD movement options in their games for those with high tolerance to VR sickness, and the lucky few with Omni-treadmills.

It does. There's LED lights on the back.

Sorry, I meant the move controllers. They will get occluded.

 

[Death Metalist]

Just tuned in. Have they done TimeMachine VR?

They tried it in the Rift stream. Check out the OP for the games they played.

 

[DeadManWalking]

So there just isn't an analog stick on one of those controllers?

 

[tuxfool]

It does. There's LED lights on the back.

Ok.

Now stick the wands directly in front of you when facing away from the camera.

 

[sammex]

Did they play Job Simulator yet? Can't find it skipping back on the stream.

edit: nm just seen the list in the op mentioned above.

 

[Nzyme32]

It does. There's LED lights on the back.

Pretty sure they are referencing controllers, which will become unreliable when occluded from the camera. That's why pretty much all of the controller games on PSVR are forward facing

 

[Armaly]

They tried it in the Rift stream. Check out the OP for the games they played.

Thanks!

 

[Karak]

Yeah, but the point is that this statement is about a game that he hasn't even grasped completely its mechanics while playing for some good minutes. That's not a shallow game.

Sure ok. Maybe he will get geared up once in a great while for it. The causal comment still stands as an initial impression and its offering to extend the Vive. And since Junker is a very shallow title its not something that will magically change for him most likely.


They did for sure play Job Simulator for those asking. .

 

[Bsigg12]

So there just isn't an analog stick on one of those controllers?

No, both just have touchpads.

 

[Death Metalist]

Budget Cuts now.

 

[Concrete Charlie]

Drew's a sleeper agent awaiting activation. Give him time.

I fucking love this.

 

[KingSnake]

These games can barely pass for $10 on mobile, yet they want $40.

There are like 2 or 3 games that are $40. Which of them is $10 on mobile?

 

[saveweyard]

Looking forward to catching up on everything I've missed. It's been a long day at work.

 

[Oppo]

Hopefully that high-bandwidth low-latency wireless video transmission tech works out, because that would indeed solve so many issues. Wouldn't mind at all having to wear a "battery belt" if it meant losing the tether entirely.

i dunno. the data and latency required seems a long, long away from a wireless reality.

id rather wear a laptop on my back honestly. if a laptop existed that could run this shit.

 

[Movalpolos]

If anything this stream has taught me about Vive it's:
- Wait until the room-scale shit is improved on Vive.
- Wait until I have enough room to actually use it.
- Wait until it's cheaper because it offers nothing better than any cheaper solution as far as software goes.

I'm sure eventually Vive will be worth it, but not for that price and not with all it demands from the user to have some "premium" room-scale experience. Does seem better for people interested in using it as a creative tool however.

 

[Mihos]

Jeff "hail satan"



They could come up with something, they will ahve same issue with occulus as thats camera as well isnt it ?

Oculus uses 2 cameras

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Presence.

 

[MassiveNights]

Just out from work, how has the stream been?

 

[family_guy]

If anything this stream has taught me about Vive it's:
- Wait until the room-scale shit is improved on Vive.
- Wait until I have enough room to actually use it.
- Wait until it's cheaper because it offers nothing better than any cheaper solution as far as software goes.

I'm sure eventually Vive will be worth it, but not for that price and not with all it demands from the user to have some "premium" room-scale experience. Does seem better for people interested in using it as a creative tool however.

It's basically like the launch of any console.

 

[stump sock]

Just out from work, how has the stream been?

stream's solid, games have been real hit or miss, unsurprisingly

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

We really don't need to see all that text.

 

[KingSnake]

- Wait until the room-scale shit is improved on Vive..

What are you talking about here?

 

[Karak]

i dunno. the data and latency required seems a long, long away from a wireless reality.

id rather wear a laptop on my back honestly. if a laptop existed that could run this shit.

Some people have expensive hdmi wireless receivers and broadcasters. I would be interested if anything like that worked. Even if just as a test.

 

[Helznicht]

So they only played "Vanishing Realms" for 15 minutes? Is that how long they have given every game? No wonder they are saying they have no depth............

Oculus will eventually use 2 cameras

clarified.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Some people have expensive hdmi wireless receivers and broadcasters. I would be interested if anything like that worked. Even if just as a test.

Latency is far too high. It might be acceptable when used on a regular screen, but any added latency is VR is magnified.

 

[Compsiox]

You really do get used to navigating around with the wire. It becomes second nature. Please acknowledge this people of the internet.

 

[KingKong]

It's basically like the launch of any console.

Only without the first party AAA exclusive

 

[Oppo]

ok watching Jeff toss the plant to fuck with the robot, and him just trying to casually look around the corner, was pretty funny

i am not too big a fan of thos translocation method. i get why they use it and Budget Cuts is clever about it... but we need better locomotion methods.

 

[justjim89]

Budget Cuts looks really cool.

 

[Mihos]

Latency is far too high. It might be acceptable when used on a regular screen, but any added latency is VR is magnified.

I would expect that to be really solved until the resolution arms race on these dies down