MiniBossBattle
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Stammering/overtalking Patrick is back. He was really solid on previous Bombcast but I think he was having a hard time getting his point across when there are more than 3 people in the Bombcrew.
Giant Bombcast E3 2011 Day Zero
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Guardian Bob
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Throw this Microsoft guy out.
Equus Bellator Apex
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Listening to them talk about the Vita and then realizing that most of them bought 250 dollar 3DSs made my brain hurt.
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Deleted member 17706
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DaBuddaDa said:
He needs a little perspective and objectivity.
Honestly, so do Ryan and Jeff. These guys can't seem to get that their experiences and preferences don't apply to everyone.
Equus Bellator Apex said:
It was hilarious listening to Klepek fail at trying to update his 3DS right after calling the PSVita a dead platform.
elrechazado
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Doesn't everyone else listen to them precisely to hear their experiences and preferences? I must be crazy I guess, since I do.Zefah said:
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Deleted member 17706
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elrechazao said:
I listen, because I generally like the personalities. That doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me when shit gets spewed. It's just an idiotic thing to say that the PSVita is dead on arrival on the basis of "because iOS!" (except in Japanese "because Monster Hunter").
That wasn't what they were saying. They were discussing how the name of the game of portable gaming has changed and that the price of entry for alot of the PSV games are going to be really damn steep compared to the games people are accustomed to buying on iOS and the like. That isn't to say that people won't buy PSV games, it is just a tougher market out there than when handhelds were first introduced and even a few years ago.Zefah said:
Unproven, immeasurable speculation by people who have zero clue what they're talking about. That's the problem. I want to hear them tell me about what awesome games they've seen at E3, not what they speculate Sony's financial future will be in the short-term with the launch of the Vita.xxracerxx said:
Equus Bellator Apex
Junior Member
Hearing Patrick just outright dismiss the PSP God of War games after Alex explained why they actually work on a handheld pretty much summed up the whole conversation.
elrechazado
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DaBuddaDa said:
They talk about video games and video game systems. They're skeptical about vita based on their opinions. I'm sure you could find tons of people with the opposite opinion who are excited about it. I'm also sure based on what you and others have written that you aren't against them giving opinions, you just disagree with the opinion and/or want it to be wrong. Seems like you know what you're getting with these guys if you've listened to them ever, so wishing they'd be something they aren't is a bit silly at this point.
I don't agree with all of their guesses or speculation or opinions, I just realize that I listen to them to hear those things, and that's what they do. The whiners in this thread seem to just be mad that someone isn't gushing all over something that the whiners are themselves excited about.
elrechazado
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Apparently you've never listened to the bombcast before today. What does "they know nothing about" mean? It's clear from your posts that it means "I disagree with your opinion, so shut up".DaBuddaDa said:
Danne-Danger
Member
Hearing Alex say he got "infected" by that enthusiastic man who presented SFxTekken made me smile.LiK said:
Equus Bellator Apex
Junior Member
Here's how every NGP/Vita conversation goes...
1. The Vita has all the same problems the PSP had
2. Well, it has better games this time though
3. Yeah, but they're all console ports
4. Actually, no they do some things different. Here are some examples
5. Well, I would rather play those games on my TV
1. The Vita has all the same problems the PSP had
2. Well, it has better games this time though
3. Yeah, but they're all console ports
4. Actually, no they do some things different. Here are some examples
5. Well, I would rather play those games on my TV
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Equus Bellator Apex said:
6. I don't commute!
7. Who wants to watch cutscenes on a bus?
Equus Bellator Apex
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Zefah said:
8. IOS has made portable gaming irrevelent.
9. Talk about 3DS firmware update
Wasn't Klepek's "dead on arrival" comment in the context of being a substantial, mainstream success in the United States? I also remember him stressing that the original PSP has sold well in the same conversation.
I also think that their obsession with updating the 3DS partially stems from Jeff's... interest... in the eShop.
I also think that their obsession with updating the 3DS partially stems from Jeff's... interest... in the eShop.
Equus Bellator Apex
Junior Member
You're implying a lot with that post.mujun said:
Both of which are wrong.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
timestamps for when the MS guys get beat down? I don't want to sit through the knobslobbering
Equus Bellator Apex said:
You forgot
6. I want pick up and play games not cinematic games like Uncharted
the answer to that is well LittleBigPlanet, Modnation, WIpeOut, Sound Shapes, Hotshots, SFxT, LittleDeviants and etc all look to be pick up and play games. And lets not forget PS Suite support as well as maybe getting save state feature from PSP Go.
Zombie James
Banned
Wasn't the great Bombcast i've ever heard. The Microsoft guys were total idiots, and then it was about an hour of Vita hate with a little bit of doom & gloom for the entire portable games industry thrown in. Hopefully tonight's show will be better, and it should be with Jaffe there.
I said this in the first thread about this podcast, but I liked the first half. I think hearing Blow complain about a lot of problems he has with Xbox Live, and hearing the Microsoft guys explain why those rules are those rules. It's an interesting conversation between Blow who just wants to make good (and new) games and Microsoft who wants to make money off this venture.
Podcast spoilers:
Blow:
Microsoft guys:
Ryna speaking for Bastion:
Microsoft guys:
As stupid as that response sounds, having worked at retail and having people return systems and games for the dumbest reasons imaginable, I totally believe them.
And this whole "they're just Microsoft schill" bit is defied by the fact that they admit to a lot of Xbox Live problems. They admit there are some real problems communicating with XBLA developers, that there's too much red tape. They admit that the way patches work is not nearly as good as places like iOS and Steam, and at one point they tell Blow they don't want to lose him to places like iOS and Steam, and want to figure out ways to make it work.
I thought it was a really interesting conversation. It's not very funny like you expect from Bombcast, but it's hardly "How awesome is your system? Oh so awesome." If you expect pretty high up Microsoft guys to get on a podcast and say "Our system sucks, look how cool we are criticizing ourselves" you're always going to be disappointed.
Podcast spoilers:
Blow:
Why do I have to have exactly 12 achievements worth 200 points? What if I don't want to do that?
King Kong had 970 achievement points. We got lots of complaints about this to this day. So we made a rule about every game.
Bastion got into trouble because it doesn't get to a menu in the first so many minutes.
If it doesn't get to a menu, people think the system/game is broken, they call support, they take it back, etc. Having said that, we made an exception for Bastion.
And this whole "they're just Microsoft schill" bit is defied by the fact that they admit to a lot of Xbox Live problems. They admit there are some real problems communicating with XBLA developers, that there's too much red tape. They admit that the way patches work is not nearly as good as places like iOS and Steam, and at one point they tell Blow they don't want to lose him to places like iOS and Steam, and want to figure out ways to make it work.
I thought it was a really interesting conversation. It's not very funny like you expect from Bombcast, but it's hardly "How awesome is your system? Oh so awesome." If you expect pretty high up Microsoft guys to get on a podcast and say "Our system sucks, look how cool we are criticizing ourselves" you're always going to be disappointed.
Equus Bellator Apex
Junior Member
So,Nert said:
Dead on Arrival = Moderate success?
Hmm....
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
MrTroubleMaker said:
That and the fact that he always repeats other people's jokes roughly 5 times. Klepeck's a decent enough writer but horrible podcaster.
notworksafe
Member
If you go to any page other than the home page (click on any news story), there's a link at the top to the livestream with a countdown clock.linko9 said:
It's at 2hours 21 minutes at the moment.
I think you guys must have missed the point of their Vita criticisms. They're saying, "Wait a second, I've heard all this before..." referring to how the PSP launched with a beautiful screen and the promise of being a home console in your pocket, and yet it ended up being a disappointment. So now they're seeing the exact same marketing line and wondering what's going to be different this time, especially since the mobile market has moved even farther away from the "console in your pocket" position since the first one launched.
shadyspace
Banned
Bets on how long it takes them to get into Nintendo showing off the first new console in over half a decade tonight? I'm down for half an hour.