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[Jack The Nipper]

I believe it's always a wait and see from people until the next system is coming and the process starts over.

Seems Nintendo really had a hard time selling the system to developers and they are just making games as fast/best as they can.

Why they didn't have more partners to make the IPS they are sitting on, sure... maybe they are but I just won't believe it til I see it. We have been down this road for over 10 years now.

 

[Maintenance]

Jack shit.

Their resumes

Or this.

 

[jay]

Well them not showing much of anything is the damn problem. Not sure how folks are trying to spin this shit. You only get one initial reveal to capture mindshare and this was a poor effort due to a lack of solid games. Suda on stage talking about Travis touchdown with nothing to show? Awful. That's not how you generate interest imo. Mario Kart of all games didn't even get stage time.

You must not know how marketing works. It's the customer's fault if he or she is not interested in a product.

 

[NippleViking]

I know it's hard to keep track of after their internal reshuffling, but how many teams are unaccounted for?

 

[muteki]

Wtf is Retro up to is all I want to know.

 

[RichiRamjag]

You must not know how marketing works. It's the customer's fault if he or she is not interested in a product.

Lol. I bet

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

I know it's hard to keep track of after their internal reshuffling, but how many teams are unaccounted for?

More than a few. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1303431

 

[Justice_Bolt]

So they took 3 years to make ARMS?
I mean for real?

What? 3 years for this? I hope it has more content,depth and single player campaign at least. This is ridiculous if it doesn't.

 

[nynt9]

You must not know how marketing works. It's the customer's fault if he or she is not interested in a product.

Is this sarcastic? It's literally the marketer's job to get the customer excited for a product.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Five months until E3.

 

[Takat]

It seems like Nintendo is still working as an old government run company. Full of people and opinions, and lots of bureaucracy to get anything approved.

I knew there wasn't a chance for 3rd party support, but I really hoped Nintendo could bring it with a focus on one console.

 

[Neoleo2143]

You must not know how marketing works. It's the customer's fault if he or she is not interested in a product.

No it's Marketing's job to make them interested. You can make the most insanely amazing product boring as shit, or the worst product amazing depending on how you present it.

 

[……forgetit]

A lot of Nintendo teams were tiny from what I understand. Switch games probably take way more people to make so there might have been some team consolidation going on.

 

[Instro]

For what it's worth the show felt very japanese oriented. Like where was Retro or NLG? Maybe they will have something to show soon. Even then though a lot of studios were missing from the event it seemed.

Overall though you have to concerned when this is supposed to be their one piece of hardware now, and they haven't really been releasing much on their previous pieces of hardware for the last year or two. If this is Nintendo holding things for E3, or future directs, then they are stupid because the lineup is anemic. If they really have nothing else to show for 2017, then they are in an even worse state than anyone imagined.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Wasn't this platform supposed to unify development in such a way that software droughts were a thing of the past? Am I missing something, or is what we saw the fruits of blending handheld and console together?

Games at a minimum take 2 years to make, even the b tier game devs and such just got done with their games in 2015 and 2016

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I think the problem with Nintendo is that if they were a publisher only, their output would seem quite prolific. Since they are often the only source of AAA releases in some given months on their consoles, it makes them appear slower than they really are.

Zelda, Mario, Xenoblade, Splatoon, Arms, 1-2 Switch, and presumably HD Pokemon is actually quite decent for a console's first 9 months, not counting the various up-ports that will be thrown in the mix as well. Their problem is no one else wants to develop for it yet, and those that do were only recently given dev kits so their games will be inexplicably late or outright vaporware if it doesn't take off immediately.

 

[matrix-cat]

I think I'm just done giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt. You think "Oh, they'll probably have more at E3", and they don't, so then it's "They're just waiting for the next big Direct", and then it's a bust, so it's "Whatever, that was just a 'rest of 2017' Direct, not the real big one", and on and on. Meanwhile you just sit there and watch one disappointing console transition directly into the next disappointing console. "Oh, but this time they'll get it right". No they won't.

The little light inside me died today

 

[Warnen]

I hope a new animal crossing!

 

[nynt9]

I think I'm just done giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt. You think "Oh, they'll probably have more at E3", and they don't, so then it's "They're just waiting for the next big Direct", and then it's a bust, so it's "Whatever, that was just a 'rest of 2017' Direct, not the real big one", and on and on. Meanwhile you just sit there and watch one disappointing console transition directly into the next disappointing console. "Oh, but this time they'll get it right". No they won't.

The little light inside me died today

Yeah that's the point I'm at. A constant stream of "please understand" type moments, then the insane online policies of the switch, and the lack of promise, even by a logo tease of a significant amount of releases for this system have left my faith in Nintendo at rock bottom. At this point I think they're just not a good company, they just make a great game once a year or something. That doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me anymore.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Well, this is highlighting a big problem indeed: When they had all that money, why didn't they expanded ?

Supposedly they did.

 

[Zemm]

If you have a Wii U then 2017 is a mess, it doesn't even start until Mario in the holidays. 'What have they been doing?' is a good question to ask.

 

[onemanasylum]

Their awesome new online paid service obviously, duh.

 

[EatinOlives]

Exact same thing happened between the Wii and the Wiiu. Wii had next to nothing the last couple of years of its life, the assumption was that they were working on the WiiU's library and nope, they did fuck-all.

 

[Kathian]

3DS games.

 

[balgajo]

I thought Nintendo were to announce some 3ds/Switch games but it didn't happen.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Since this is a replacement for the Wii U and 3DS, Nintendo's developers can now work together under a unified platform and thus output more games than before. Therefore, content droughts will be a thing of the past.

Yup.

This was a thing people believed.

I mean, if what was announced is all Nintendo has for 2017, I'll agree with the point you're making.

But Nintendo announces new stuff all the time, so I'm not ready to agree with you yet.