http://www.jazzdrummer.com/goofs/misstexas2000Chopin.mp3
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Ninja Scooter
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i dont get it.
While it's probably technically accurate and there's no questioning her skill, her playing just sounded soulless, like a robot. That's probably the piece's fault as well as her's, though. That's not a good selection to show off your skill - I don't care if it's Chopin, that piece is in bad taste musically. There's no emotion, it's just a jumble of quickly-timed notes.
If she really wanted to show off her skill, she should pick something with a discernable melody - something that sounds nice - then put her own spin on it through her own interpetation/intuition (the real skill that matters with musical performance, not robot-like accuracy).
If she really wanted to show off her skill, she should pick something with a discernable melody - something that sounds nice - then put her own spin on it through her own interpetation/intuition (the real skill that matters with musical performance, not robot-like accuracy).
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Ninja Scooter
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so...she doesn't like, fart or anything?
element
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that was bad
here is reference for those who don't know what it should sound like
http://www.elenakuschnerova.com/Historical/Chopin-Scherzo_No.1_h-moll_Op.20-Kuschnerova.mp4
here is reference for those who don't know what it should sound like
http://www.elenakuschnerova.com/Historical/Chopin-Scherzo_No.1_h-moll_Op.20-Kuschnerova.mp4
ScientificNinja
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Hmm... not a bad performance. Pity she's only got two styles - "ff" and "pp" 
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Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself.
there's nothing wrong with her Chipin.
I respect her tallent.
there's nothing wrong with her Chipin.
I respect her tallent.
Listen to the recording posted by element - there are dozens of technical faults, especially rhythmically. Her rhythm is absolutely atrocious. That's probably the piece's fault as well as her's, though. That's not a good selection to show off your skill - I don't care if it's Chopin, that piece is in bad taste musically. There's no emotion, it's just a jumble of quickly-timed notes.Lhadatt said:
First of all, "robot-like accuracy" is important. If you don't play the correct notes in the correct time, you're not playing the piece of music the composer wrote.Lhadatt said:
Second of all, intuition has nothing to do with a good interpretation of a piece of music. If it had to do with intuition and emotion, then the performance would change as the mood of the performer changed. The perofrmer is supposed to capture the mood of the piece, not his or her own mood. To capture the mood of the piece, the performer must understand the purpose of every single note and show the purpose of every single note in his or her playing through a process called phrasing. The main theory of phrasing used today was created by Marcel Tabuteaua and taught by him in his wind and string classes at the Curtis Institute.
ScientificNinja
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NLB2 said:
Hey man, if you're a musician, then that's great. I'm a classical pianist myself with performance-standard qualifications, so I'd like to think we're speaking the same language here. But preaching "robot-like accuracy" while in the same breathe quoting Tabuteaua's ideas on phrasing as though he's the be all and end all is just silly.
I don't think what she played was fantastic by any means, but it wasn't too bad either. What matters to me as a performance equally with the other factors is that even if she makes mistakes, she continues to play and not choke up.
My understanding of Tabuteau's phrasing is that he places stress on certain notes through volume rather than time. However, if I'm wrong, I don't think what he had in mind was getting the rhythms completely wrong :lol.ScientificNinja said:
I understand how you can respect her for not giving up after all of her technical dificulties.
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Yeah, I listened to the better sample of the piece. I had other things to do than post a followup.
I retract saying that she had robot-like accuracy. I do respect her for continuing with the performance even though it sounded like crap, but I still maintain it's not a good piece for that sort of venue.
Now, I didn't say "emotion". I said "intuition". I don't understand how that has no place in musical performance. Yes, phrasing is important, blah blah blah. I'm not a trained musician, and even if I was I wouldn't care for spouting theory, so I'm not going to get into that argument.
I'm pretty sure that for non-musicians, this would boil down to "she was banging on the piano alot randomly and it sounds like suck."
Yeah, I listened to the better sample of the piece. I had other things to do than post a followup.
I retract saying that she had robot-like accuracy. I do respect her for continuing with the performance even though it sounded like crap, but I still maintain it's not a good piece for that sort of venue.
Now, I didn't say "emotion". I said "intuition". I don't understand how that has no place in musical performance. Yes, phrasing is important, blah blah blah. I'm not a trained musician, and even if I was I wouldn't care for spouting theory, so I'm not going to get into that argument.
I'm pretty sure that for non-musicians, this would boil down to "she was banging on the piano alot randomly and it sounds like suck."
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