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God Of War 3 Has Gone Gold - Lots of Reviews Out Already
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Lagspike_exe
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TTP said:You know what's funny? With all this talk about moving processes from the RSX to the Cell and looking at the amazing results, it looks like the RSX is being used like a simple video output card :lol
It's odd. The less you use the RSX the more amazing the games look.
Power of Cell indeed
... what?
RSX is ALWAYS used. They just unload some parts of the processing to Cell, which, in most cases, runs idle if you don't push it with tasks like this. The reason why Cell is being pushed so hard this time is because it was much easier to push RSX A LOT in the early days because of it's known architecture.
RSX is, basically, G70. Don't underestimate it, it was quite powerful GPU for it's time and it's quite usable today, as well.
Cell is being used as a supercharger, since it does some stuff exceptionally well, but supercharger is of no use if you don't have an engine.
MLAA still takes a significant amount of processor time. Its not like its anywhere close to free.Raist said:
MLAA is a very simple algorithm that obviously produces wonderful results, but you need a ton of free CPU time to run it as it goes over the entire frame buffer multiple times to do edge detection and blending.
BruceWayneIII
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TTP said:You know what's funny? With all this talk about moving processes from the RSX to the Cell and looking at the amazing results, it looks like the RSX is being used like a simple video output card :lol
It's odd. The less you use the RSX the more amazing the games look.
Power of Cell indeed
I know what you mean. I remember a lot of 1st party developers mention the RSX as a shading monster, and it seems that's how they use it. Everything advanced like KZ2 post-processing filters etc. fits nicely on the SPUs.
captscience
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Firewire said:
I think it would be amazing. It's not like quincunx that blurs the entire image.
Since it's a post process it can also perhaps finally rid GT of the nasty shader edges that look so awful on some of the internal car seams.
HomerSimpson-Man
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I wonder what the effects are on games that have high extreme colorful contrast like Uncharted 2 and Gran Turismo 5. Apparently that is one of the variables that MLAA does not favor.
Lagspike_exe
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TTP said:If by "crisp clean look" you mean jaggies and flickering then I'd be very happy if GT5 loses that.
I advise getting a new TV.
theignoramus
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What makes you think GoW3s CPU budget is significantly less than that of other, comparable action games?Lathentar said:
Firewire: My thinking is that if GT5 is using 4xMSAA on the RSX with screen tear and fps drops, the engine performance (and by extension, the driving experience) could be improved if they had more GPU time on the RSX.
Firewire said:
I took his (and all the similar posts) in jest, which I thought was clear. But it's not worth a debate since sarcasm can be difficult to detect on the 'net.
Back On Topic: What I like most about the "Demo" and "Final" pictures is how everything is brighter & more vivid. Yes, the more-detail textures are great, but that means nothing if you can't see them.
The game is looking amazing.
bodyofanamerican
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HomerSimpson-Man
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theignoramus said:
Don't forget, GT5 uses two layers of AA to boot.
Pai Pai Master
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Looks like they really tightened up the graphics in level 3.
Callibretto
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ULTROS! said:Looks like CGI. Damn
In these pics, for some strange reason, I like the demo part more:
demo showed some nice shadow, but there's some weird glow everywhere. even one of the flag is glowing. the final version feel more right to me.
Lagspike_exe
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TTP said:
Trailer IQ? :lol
Of course I want, but that's not really possible with current gen hardware.
TrAcEr_x90
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Looks like the demo was missing a ambient occlusion pass, HDR lighting and color correction. It just looks so godly now. I can not wait to pick this up.
webcivilian
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TTP said:
Those Bravias are pretty sweet. I've got one myself XBR4.
corrosivefrost
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LiquidMetal14 said:
Exactly why I asked for impressions from people with retail copies.
Callibretto said:
That's awesome! The demo had a lot of shadows and darkness in places -- it made it hard to tell which way I was going -- I thought I was playing God of War 3: Diablo edition for a minute there.
Zombie James
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TTP said:You know what's funny? With all this talk about moving processes from the RSX to the Cell and looking at the amazing results, it looks like the RSX is being used like a simple video output card :lol
It's odd. The less you use the RSX the more amazing the games look.
Power of Cell indeed
Speaking of Cell: http://www.tilander.org/aurora/comp/gdc2009_Tilander_Filippov_SPU.pdf
Lathentar said:
Where exactly did I say it was free?
Anyway, it's obvious that it isn't too taxing on the hardware, especially if they spread that on multiple SPUs. I don't think the game would look as good with such as scale if it was a resource sink.
corrosivefrost said:
Do you have full rgb turned on?
HomerSimpson-Man
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corrosivefrost said:
Final version is for the best; black crush, it's the bane of many people's TV, notably LCD, especially the uncalibrated kinds.
Dead Prince
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the MLAA technique doesn't mess with the HUD like Saboteur?
Lagspike_exe said:
Krazy Ken has been redeemed for sure. Time to get him aboard for the PS4, where it runs off the souls of runaway children.
I do remember them saying at one point they wanted to run dual-cell processors, instead of CPU/SPU. That would have been interesting to say the least, but they said it was just too complicated for developers (I assume they meant 3rd party).
That's the nice thing about Sony 1st party though, this technique will be whored around by all of them now, just it'll be refined each time.
electroshockwave
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TTP said:You know what's funny? With all this talk about moving processes from the RSX to the Cell and looking at the amazing results, it looks like the RSX is being used like a simple video output card :lol
It's odd. The less you use the RSX the more amazing the games look.
Power of Cell indeed
Wasn't the PS3 originally intended to have 2 cell processors but developers were against it because they wanted the typical CPU + GPU setup. I really want to know what that PS3 would have been capable of.
theignoramus
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I didnt get his implication either. If anything, PS3 first party games would have less free CPU time because they use the SPUs more extensively than conventional, Xbox-centric multiplat games. I see no reason why this technique shouldnt be considered a practical solution to third party PS3 devs inclined to ship games with no AA or QAA.Raist said:
Dead Prince
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it's like the perfect capture. soooo beautiful *Cries*nskinnear said:
EDIT:
http://scrawlfx.com/gallery/albums/god-of-war-iii/march-9-2010/God-of-War-III_2010_03-09-10_05.jpg
oh god.
hey_it's_that_dog
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electroshockwave said:
Launching at 699 US dollars, for one.
BruceWayneIII
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electroshockwave said:
As far as I remember, that was just a wild running rumor. I think there was a quote from SONY stating that it was never an actual plan at all. Someone correct me, if I'm wrong though. It's been a few years...
depths20XX
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Will definetly be buying this but I do not see it surpassing Bayonetta as far as action games go.
None of the reviews really mention any content or unlockables to work for after completing the game. The combat also feels really stale after playing much better action games. I guess GoW games are mainly for the atmosphere or something though.
None of the reviews really mention any content or unlockables to work for after completing the game. The combat also feels really stale after playing much better action games. I guess GoW games are mainly for the atmosphere or something though.
Trailblaster said:
It's a certainty, even before SSM began experimenting with the method. In GG's GDC presentation on deferred rendering, "more efficient AA" (or words to that effect) was on the planned feature list. Considering they used QAA in favour of 2xMSAA, and 4xMSAA would likely have too much a performance cost associated with it, MLAA is about the only route to go.
ULTROS! said:
The final version makes much more sense as far as lighting in concerned considering there's a bloody SUN GOD flying around nearby.
BruceWayneIII said:
The RSX has all but been relegated to shading and pushing polygons at this point.