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God Of War 3 Has Gone Gold - Lots of Reviews Out Already
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The best thing about the 'final' Helios/Titan shot is how the light interacts with the smoke. So awesome. I'm really surprised how much they managed to pack into/get out of the engine considering the aim of a relatively high variable framerate. Makes you wonder how much more they could've done with the game locked to 30fps.
OneMoreQuestion
Member
onken said:
Also shows a weapon from GOW2,
Blade of Olympus
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
theignoramus
Member
Superior shading in the final code.
templeusox
Banned
Haha. Weren't you the one who proclaimed that the PS3 not working for a day was worse than the RROD? It seems like bold, outlandish claims are your M.O. as well.AstroMan said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Aren't you the guy who was saying how that one day clock glitch in PS3 was worse than the whole RROD situation with X360? If so...AstroMan said:
Argh, two minutes too late :lol
Kos Luftar
Member
The game looks pretty good.
I applaud myself for pre-ordering the Ultimate Edition for such a beautiful game.
I applaud myself for pre-ordering the Ultimate Edition for such a beautiful game.
theignoramus
Member
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
You can see just how good their blur looks on that Helios chariot closeup picture above. It's amazing really, and it seems to be completely artifact free.dark10x said:
Dead Prince
Banned
god the lighting. it makes it look so real now.
Lord Error said:
The difference there is that I didn't go to the websites that I write for and make said claims, which by the way, were obviously not accurate in any sense (I thought this was clear going off other outlandish posts made in that exact thread). Then again things I say seem to get misinterpreted, which is 100% my fault, I should write all things I say in jest using italics in order to avoid confusion and those delightful PMs which label me an Xbot, among other things.
I digress, my personal feelings about HipHopGamer got the best of me and I took his mention in the thread to vent a little. We now take you back to your regularly-scheduled program, already in progress.
PuppetMaster
Member
AstroMan said:
Sam Jackson would approve of HipHopGamer.
Just sayin...
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Dexvex said:
Certainly not, I was expecting a lot more tbh, will be looking forward to a more in-depth analysis hopefully after the game has been released.
I saw that. I'd love to know what they are doing differently. Most games with motion blur have very obvious artifacts present. Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 were ahead of the pack in this regard, but this is on a different level.Lord Error said:
I'd say this blur trumps even the mighty Crysis in DX10. It looks virtually perfect and definitely gives the game an almost pre-rendered feel.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I think this is one of the rare exceptions where nothing really was cut down to make other things better. All the improvements they have seem to have come from just tighter code. Yes, the tiny piece of smoke is missing from that scene which is almost certainly a scenery change decision (there's not animated waterfall there instead), but every other scene shows clear improvements with nothing missing, and better framerate. Hell, just so much better AA and full screen motion blur you'd think would kill the performance, but it's complete opposite.sinnergy said:
SolidSnakex
Member
lowrider007 said:
They're going to do more
Looking at some pics that Gamersyde posted earlier, I can understand why they aren't doing a full analysis right now. They're going to want to be able to use some screens and movies from later in the game to show off what the game is doing. So in order to avoid spoiling the game they'll likely hold off until the game has been released for a few days.
nu_horizons
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For those who already got the game, what languages are included?
KZObsessed
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theignoramus said:
Trailblaster
Banned
Damn.... Their MLAA technique is godly. The IQ in this game simply shits on all other console games.
As I Understand it, and please forgive me if i get something wrong:
The demo uses 2XMSAA. It takes RSX 9 milliseconds to do full screen 2xMSAA at 60Hz. The MLAA technique their using in GOW3 can give the effect of 16XAA. This MLAA algorithm will take about 20 miliseconds to render at 60Hz on a single SPU, but the GOW3 team spreads the work across 5 SPU's in parallel. So it only takes 5 miliseconds to get this level of AA on CELL. 9ms on RSX vs 5ms on CELL . At worst case twice the smoothness at twice the speed.
CELL is a Beast, and GOW3 will blow minds.
Bravo Studio Santa Monica, Bravo!
As I Understand it, and please forgive me if i get something wrong:
The demo uses 2XMSAA. It takes RSX 9 milliseconds to do full screen 2xMSAA at 60Hz. The MLAA technique their using in GOW3 can give the effect of 16XAA. This MLAA algorithm will take about 20 miliseconds to render at 60Hz on a single SPU, but the GOW3 team spreads the work across 5 SPU's in parallel. So it only takes 5 miliseconds to get this level of AA on CELL. 9ms on RSX vs 5ms on CELL . At worst case twice the smoothness at twice the speed.
CELL is a Beast, and GOW3 will blow minds.
Bravo Studio Santa Monica, Bravo!
PuppetMaster
Member
Trailblaster said:
Love it!
theignoramus
Member
I believe the technique also frees up 5ms on the RSX.
You know, it really looks like it went from a blurry mess (I'm obviously not talking about the actual motion blur, check the titan close-up comparison for instance) to super-detailed, high contrast picture quality from the demo to the final version.
I'm actually wondering whether this whole improvement is due to the replacement of "traditional AA" (maybe they used quincux before and IIRC while a decent AA method it caused an overall bluriness in the image) by MLAA.
If that's the case, everyone should use that STAT.
I'm actually wondering whether this whole improvement is due to the replacement of "traditional AA" (maybe they used quincux before and IIRC while a decent AA method it caused an overall bluriness in the image) by MLAA.
If that's the case, everyone should use that STAT.
Amen brother AmenTrailblaster said:Damn.... Their MLAA technique is godly. The IQ in this game simply shits on all other console games.
As I Understand it, and please forgive me if i get something wrong:
The demo uses 2XMSAA. It takes RSX 9 milliseconds to do full screen 2xMSAA at 60Hz. The MLAA technique their using in GOW3 can give the effect of 16XAA. This MLAA algorithm will take about 20 miliseconds to render at 60Hz on a single SPU, but the GOW3 team spreads the work across 5 SPU's in parallel. So it only takes 5 miliseconds to get this level of AA on CELL. 9ms on RSX vs 5ms on CELL . At worst case twice the smoothness at twice the speed.
CELL is a Beast, and GOW3 will blow minds.
Bravo Studio Santa Monica, Bravo!
Trailblaster
Banned
theignoramus said:
Ah your right it takes only 4ms to do this on CELL with 5 spu's. Theres a great thread about it on Beyond3d
PuppetMaster
Member
Raist said:
This looks like a more drastic than a improvement from QAA. They definitely improved the texture and the normal map.
My guess is that by changing the AA method maybe they were able to save some memory, and they were able to use that to improve textures in certain scenes.
BruceWayneIII
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PuppetMaster said:
My guess is pretty simple: code optimization, month after month, in parallel with ongoing adjustments and polishing from artists. They got a vast pool of really talented people.
So, yeah, more than AA enhancements.
PuppetMaster said:
Yeah, which would be an additional, indirect effect of this new AA method.
Fuck, imagine if KZ2 used MLAA... The IQ was almost perfect already so the free memory/GPU time could have been used for other stuff...
KZ3 plz.
edit: and U2 would clearly have beneficiated a lot from MLAA as well...
U3 plz.
theignoramus
Member
Really interested to see if Killzone 3 uses this technique. I deplore QAA, and even though its implementation in KZ2 was artistically coherent, I would have preferred a sharper image.
***fuck, why cant PD use this technique. wander if its at all possible to use in a CPU-intensive game like GT5.
***fuck, why cant PD use this technique. wander if its at all possible to use in a CPU-intensive game like GT5.
Trailblaster
Banned
PuppetMaster said:
How much you want to bet that GG uses MLAA in Killzone3 and not Quincunx AA
BruceWayneIII
Member
Trailblaster said:
No doubt - those two teams had quite a bit of tech share going on
captscience
Member
Trailblaster said:
I'd be pretty shocked if KZ3 and other first party devs don't use this implementation of MLAA.
According to Tim Moss' twitter, the technique was developed with a SCEE advanced tech group (Cambridge?). I don't really know crap but it sounds like something that could be fairly easily added to existing engines as long as there was some idling SPUs available.
KZObsessed
Member
Raist said:Yeah, which would be an additional, indirect effect of this new AA method.
Fuck, imagine if KZ2 used MLAA... The IQ was almost perfect already so the free memory/GPU time could have been used for other stuff...
KZ3 plz.
edit: and U2 would clearly have beneficiated a lot from MLAA as well...
U3 plz.
I haz warm feeling :3
Feels good man.
