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Flutta
Banned
Never understood this line of thinking. How can you have a connection with fictional characters in a game? It’s rather cheesy to say the least.
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UnrealEck
Member
The dialogue in this game is bad. I suppose it's subjective but I dislike how campy and ditsy a lot of characters are in a game that's about ancient norse mythological characters.
It's easy to see it was written by a bunch of twenty somethings from California.
Kratos seems emasculated too.
It's easy to see it was written by a bunch of twenty somethings from California.
Kratos seems emasculated too.
SLB1904
Banned
Not really.
skit_data
Member
I just rolled credits!
I suspect I still got at least 70% of the content left though.
I understand why this has been praised to high heavens because it keeps just building and building (combat gets funnier and more complex, the set pieces gets crazier and crazier and the story keeps you guessing up until the last minute). Santa Monica has somehow managed to make GoW 2018 pale in comparison to it’s sequel because everything just looks, sounds, feels and plays better in every way. It actually feels pretty crazy they developed this in just 4 years. Really looking forward to what Sony Santa Monica creates next.
10/10
Now, I promised myself I’d have some kind of opinion on wether this or Elden Ring is my GOTY but it’s fucking impossible to compare the two games because they excel in very different areas. I’m just happy I got to play both this year. It’s gonna be interesting to see The Game Awards to say the least.
I suspect I still got at least 70% of the content left though.
I understand why this has been praised to high heavens because it keeps just building and building (combat gets funnier and more complex, the set pieces gets crazier and crazier and the story keeps you guessing up until the last minute). Santa Monica has somehow managed to make GoW 2018 pale in comparison to it’s sequel because everything just looks, sounds, feels and plays better in every way. It actually feels pretty crazy they developed this in just 4 years. Really looking forward to what Sony Santa Monica creates next.
10/10
Now, I promised myself I’d have some kind of opinion on wether this or Elden Ring is my GOTY but it’s fucking impossible to compare the two games because they excel in very different areas. I’m just happy I got to play both this year. It’s gonna be interesting to see The Game Awards to say the least.
Flutta
Banned
Elaborate.
Having some type of ”connection” with something that isn’t real sounds asinine and vapious.
Flutta
Banned
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TonyK
Member
Yes, that chapter. For me was the Left Behind attempt of the game. Personally I didn't like that chapter at the moment, but maybe I will like it more when I replay the game in the future, as I will know that this Gow has strong influences of Naughty Dog narrative style. That change on narrative and mood has caught me by surprise, but I'm starting to accept it and enjoy it (I'm 21 hours in).
I must say I replayed Gow 2018 just before playing this and both games are very different in structure, pacing, narrative and mood. Also, Kratos is another character compared with 2018 version, now he is a sort of pacifist philosopher and all the gang are nauseatingly friendly.
This Gow is great, ultra high production values and has a very addictive game loop, but for me Gow 2018 is more than that, is a masterpiece.
SLB1904
Banned
Eh its more common than you think. Actually weird have to mention that to you
Topher
Identifies as young
Getting caught up in a fictional character's story is a connection.
SLB1904
Banned
You guys are fucking weird. That account is in hibernation. Just show up with hot take. And you posting alana like she's the lead writing or something.
Edit: and she's Australian ffs
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Con_Z_ǝdʇ
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Isn't this exactly what we are here for? Why people go to the movies or read books.
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Markio128
Gold Member
So you’re trying to say that nobody should feel a connection to fictional game/book/film/TV show, etc., characters? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. They are all created by real people, based on real experiences.
Topher
Identifies as young
Weren't we just talking about bizarre takes? That one.....sheesh
Con_Z_ǝdʇ
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
We forgot that his tears are exclusive! He just can't be emotional about this game.
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SLB1904
Banned
Popular stuff brings the worst in people
Markio128
Gold Member
I’ve never once used the ignore option because I’m all for freedom of speech - but I don’t support freedom to talk shit.
Gudji
Member
Flutta
Banned
Eh i mean if you allow yourself to be sure. Kids do it all the time.
Based on real experience? You mean Kratos was a real figure and he fought Thor and Odin in real life. Damn that’s so cool.
Hmm depends who your asking it seems. I play and watch movies and i can also at the same time differentiate reality from fiction in other words i see them as entertainment and it stops there
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vpance
Member
That Josh Whedon and Marvel school of dialogue writing.
Grildon Tundy
Member
In the fight with
Freya and Nidhogg, Freya
Con_Z_ǝdʇ
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
Eh i mean if you allow yourself to be sure. Kids do it all the time.
Based on real experience? You mean Kratos was a real figure and he fought Thor and Odin in real life. Damn that’s so cool.
Hmm depends who your asking it seems. I play and watch movies and i can also at the same time differentiate reality from fiction in other words i see them as entertainment and it stops there
Markio128
Gold Member
I said they were created by real people, not that they are real, ffs.Eh i mean if you allow yourself to be sure. Kids do it all the time.
Based on real experience? You mean Kratos was a real figure and he fought Thor and Odin in real life. Damn that’s so cool.
Hmm depends who your asking it seems. I play and watch movies and i can also at the same time differentiate reality from fiction in other words i see them as entertainment and it stops there
Vick
Gold Member
Guys easy on the guy, he's clearly not well. Learn from Kratos and show some empathy.
Complaining about "Sony wokeism" while playing a game like this in 2022, because Kratos won't devour his son when hungry.
He was more caring (and super cheesy) with Pandora in GoWIII.
Slothbeing1209
Oh now I get what you meant!
Thought you were referring to the temple, was definitely not expecting it to open so damn much all of a sudden. Felt like I was playing a PS2 era open world, in a very good way.
Game is fucking amazing. That fight inside the behemoth skeleton took me half an hour.
Complaining about "Sony wokeism" while playing a game like this in 2022, because Kratos won't devour his son when hungry.
He was more caring (and super cheesy) with Pandora in GoWIII.
Slothbeing1209
Oh now I get what you meant!
Thought you were referring to the temple, was definitely not expecting it to open so damn much all of a sudden. Felt like I was playing a PS2 era open world, in a very good way.
Game is fucking amazing. That fight inside the behemoth skeleton took me half an hour.
MasterCornholio
Member
I said they were created by real people, not that they are real, ffs.
They are not real?
SLB1904
Banned
Eh i mean if you allow yourself to be sure. Kids do it all the time.
Based on real experience? You mean Kratos was a real figure and he fought Thor and Odin in real life. Damn that’s so cool.
Hmm depends who your asking it seems. I play and watch movies and i can also at the same time differentiate reality from fiction in other words i see them as entertainment and it stops there
Is that you?
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Flutta
Banned
I said they were created by real people, not that they are real, ffs.
FrankWza
Member
SLB1904
Banned
Real experience, like having. Relationships, reading books watching movies. Travel meeting people. Jesus christ dude
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Yeah, the writing in this game is just awful, imo.
It feels incongruent with the world. As others have mentioned, the characters are written like your average American citizen.
When one character was showing me to my bedroom, I half-expected them to give me the wi-fi password - or at least make a pun about it.
And then there is the fact that it’s constantly being shoved down our throats. There is no way I can ever replay this game, as-is. That bums me out because there is a lot to love about it.
I wish the game left me to myself more. I wish I was exploring these realms, without the hindrance of constantly loading and constantly being halted by an overbearing narrative. Just let go of me, because there is so much good packed into the game that I am trying to enjoy.
It feels incongruent with the world. As others have mentioned, the characters are written like your average American citizen.
When one character was showing me to my bedroom, I half-expected them to give me the wi-fi password - or at least make a pun about it.
And then there is the fact that it’s constantly being shoved down our throats. There is no way I can ever replay this game, as-is. That bums me out because there is a lot to love about it.
I wish the game left me to myself more. I wish I was exploring these realms, without the hindrance of constantly loading and constantly being halted by an overbearing narrative. Just let go of me, because there is so much good packed into the game that I am trying to enjoy.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Easy, when you experience story you enjoy then start have connection with characters, I mean it’s not that complicated concept. It how people enjoy movies/TV show, stage play, books/comics and video games.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Lol you're on a video game forum! If you have no emotional connection to "unreal" things and/or think doing so is asinine and vapid then why are you here?
Oh, was the point to troll? Because I just took that bait hard haha
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Some would say my connection to these characters is as strong as yours is to Aaron Greenberg
Topher
Identifies as young
I said they were created by real people, not that they are real, ffs.
I felt a connection to that dog just now.
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xBlueStonex
Member
About 20 hours in, and I have to say that something feels... missing. The story hasn't hooked me like 2018 did, and everything feels so recycled from before. Returning to the same realms is a huge buzzkill, and a lot of the writing comes off as cheap compared to before. And that pacing! The pacing is all over the place this time around, and I dare to say is downright awful in some parts.
It's not a bad game by any means, but it pales in every single way to the original (thus far). The story needed a more iterations before it was ready for production.
It's not a bad game by any means, but it pales in every single way to the original (thus far). The story needed a more iterations before it was ready for production.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
It is really bad. Feels like CW level trash.
There are truly moments of great writing, but the constant quips, modern day lingo, jokes - this feels like a marvel movie. Not a god of war game.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I seriously dont understand the "pacing" complaints.
The pacing is near pitch perfect. It doesn't drag on too long of doing anything. It constantly has a loop of: Discovery/Story --> Action/Puzzle --> Loot
Even the "walk n talk" moments don't last anywhere near as egregiously long as something in ND games, they make sure to add combat and loot throughout those sections.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Uh, in a previous post you just praised the incoherent mess that is Elden Ring's story and writing. It's basically gibberish. Which is totally fine, that's how FromSoft does it. But it's a big flaw of theirs IMHO, far more than anything story/writing related in GoWR.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Elden Ring is a well written story. Its presentation is subjective, but it works in the world. I would rather have something well written that I have to piece together myself than have something that explains everything to me like I am 5 and uses tween lingo.
zkorejo
Member
After the new update mine was also automatically surround at PCM. It sounds fine to me so idk how it started working right.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
There's nothing well written about it when it makes not one bit of sense unless you read some stitched together and convoluted Lore wikipedia written by a bunch of neckbeards.
FromSoft could retain the mystery and intrigue and yet find a way to weave that in more coherently into their games so you feel like you have an actual connection to what's happening rather than just playing it to experience the dungeons and bosses
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
Why not make another thread with UNMARKED SPOILERS?
I think enough people finished the game so that would be useful
I think enough people finished the game so that would be useful
SLB1904
Banned
Do itWhy not make another thread with UNMARKED SPOILERS?
I think enough people finished the game so that would be useful
UnrealEck
Member
I'd say Elden Ring's dialogue and dialect fits its setting.
God of War's doesn't.
I agree with you to an extent it is too vague though, storyline wise.
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SLB1904
Banned
These 2 dont go together. Hell I bet you can't put together either way
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
It is incredibly easy to piece together unless you have ADHD or some sort of reading comprehension problem. Never had to look up some “neck beard” YouTuber to understand. But clearly you had to. Says more about you than the game.
Don’t project your inability to understand the story on me, kiddo.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
No it is not, this is objectively wrong