Scythesurge
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Golden Sun: Dark Dawn |OT| DJINNS DJINNS DJINNS DJINNS oh god i am drowning in them
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Disguises said:
I still remember in at least one of the games there were still moderately frequent random encounters in puzzle rooms; it was such a pain.
That would have required a different layout for most areas; it would also have made combat areas very boring in my opinion.michaelsrevenge said:
Battles being very fast in Golden Sun (and that you can flee from battles very quickly and easily) helps a lot in avoiding distractions during puzzles. I understand that some people still don't like it, but the only solution to that issue would be to do away with fights entirely.
Which reminds me: are battles in this game more or less as quick to start and end? What about fleeing? Is there any video showing that?
Holy Order Sol
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Djinns in my pants.
It's the perfect time of the year to be playing a game like that, too.
It's the perfect time of the year to be playing a game like that, too.
Cygnus X-1
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This game is all about collecting djinns.
DidntKnowJack
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I have never played a Golden Sun. May have to check this out.
WrenchNinja
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Kind of sad there isn't any import feature.
hypersheep
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This game is still so far away 
. Japan is so lucky to get it early, but now I have to stay out of this thread to avoid spoilers!
. Japan is so lucky to get it early, but now I have to stay out of this thread to avoid spoilers!Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Play the first one. The plot continues directly from the duology.DidntKnowJack said:
flyinpiranha
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Any co-op?
Regulus Tera
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flyinpiranha said:
No.
Regulus Tera
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Segata Sanshiro
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Word, me too. I didn't hate the original, but something about The Lost Age just made it feel better.AniHawk said:
Pureauthor
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I hope we eventually get to see the rest of the older cast.
And that we get artwork of them too.
HYPE HYPE HYPE
And that we get artwork of them too.
HYPE HYPE HYPE
I could never see so much of a difference between the two.Segata Sanshiro said:
Having summons other than the 1 to 4 Djinn of the same elements added variety later in the game; conversely, special classes never seemed to be of any use to me. Lost Age had more interesting extra enemies though.
On the one hand, having a party of 8 characters in TLA was more fun in terms of story; on the other hand, having interchangeable characters for battles didn't add te depth I was hoping it would - actually, it made it more of a chore to keep everyone leveled up and well equipped.
Exploration-wise, TLA fared better early on because you get a ship right away. Storytelling suffered a bit from that, as the game felt less involving to me during the first half of the game.
Puzzles? More or less the same.
In the end they differ by relatively small stuff and they even out. I guess you could prefer one or the other depending on one or more of these small differences. I recall that a good number of people found the first Golden Sun too wordy, for instance.
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On topic: it's nice that they kept most of the sound effects from the original, but while I kind of like the text scrolling sounds, I can't help but say that the jump sfx feel way off to me.
I'd really love it if Nintendo made an Iwata Asks about this game. I know so little about the behind-the-scenes of this series.
Regulus Tera
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The Lost Age immediately feels refreshing because it puts you in the shoes of the "villains" of the first game. Add to that a longer quest, better pacing, and a less formulaic plot (you don't go into the lighthouses until after third-quarters into the game), and it's noticeably superior. That Camelot managed to do this without altering the core gameplay is commendable.
Yep, it's pretty easy to see why the second one is so much better. It's just a better game all round. More locale diversity, more room to explore, more psynergy puzzles, the 8 person combat, and shifting the perspective on matters.
Kinda off topic.. I'm so pissed Isaac wasn't playable in Brawl...
Kinda off topic.. I'm so pissed Isaac wasn't playable in Brawl...
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ITA84 said:
Battles seem to take longer for the same reason that all 3D JRPGs are inherently inferior to 2D. I'm hoping the animations are still fastforward-able, but that's not confirmed yet.
Urban Scholar
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I recall battles being longer in the original games for myself because I never got bored of watching the summon sequences.
Holy fuck. I still can't believe this game is actually happening. And so close, to boot!
I hope it doesn't bomb due to hitting so late in the platform's life cycle, dooming the franchise to another demise. Nintendo did such a horrible job leveraging Glory of Heracles, but such a great job with DQIX. Here's hoping they keep up the DQ momentum with this one.
I hope it doesn't bomb due to hitting so late in the platform's life cycle, dooming the franchise to another demise. Nintendo did such a horrible job leveraging Glory of Heracles, but such a great job with DQIX. Here's hoping they keep up the DQ momentum with this one.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Also long overdrawn dialogue sequences. I didn't have any problem with them personally.Mush said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Heracles was pretty damned terrible, though. I think if this game can avoid being as dull and broken as Heracles, it'll easily do better. Should be interesting to see if the Golden Sun brand has any sales power after all this time, at least.Mejilan said:
I'm just now starting my replay of golden sun 1 and 2, and I noticed the symbolism of the lunar/sol puzzle in the heart of sol sanctum (the one which saturos and menardi's group screwed up, triggering the storm and the boulder falling), which I thought was kind of neat.
(GS 1/2 spoilers below
(GS 1/2 spoilers below
You know, the picture of Luna is shown, representing darkness. You slide the four statues in place, each of which represents an elemental lighthouse, and they each shine a light on one of the four panels, giving way to the picture of Sol (representing the Golden Sun, and the rebirth of Alchemy).
Shame they didn't port it to the 3DS- I'm not a graphics hore- but it dosn't wow me as much as when the screens where first released- but no doubt I'll probably end up buying it some time in December- loved the original- not so much the sequel- if this is more like the original then yes!
Vinterbird
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Volcynika said:
Same. Tried to pick it back up this summer, and got some progress, but the game isn't good at explaining where to go next, which killed it for me.
Sgt.Pepper
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I haven't played Lost Age yet. I still have no idea how I finished the first one; never got around the class system. I just slapped Earth Djins on Isaac, Fire on Gareth, etc.
Segata Sanshiro
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Well, we have them for games that have larger gaps, like DQ9/DQ6/Valkyria 2 and such, but I agree, this one seems a bit weird because it's long enough to be far away but short enough to be able to fool your subconscious.Giolon said: