GoldenEye Online Multiplayer is not coming to Xbox. (Split-screen co-op available)

Really disappointing, but at least we'll be able to play the single player and have split screen multiplayer. Way better than nothing, and I can just get the NSO expansion pass whenever I'm in the mood for some online Goldeneye
 
Jesus are Sony fans really creaming themselves over the fact that XBOX users are missing out on online MP?. Come on guys ffs.
 
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Bragr said:
That's why we have nostalgia, makes shitty old games play like a dream.
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Not sure about this one though, not the campaign anyway. I played it not long ago and the campaign hasnt held up AT ALL, and i used to be a massive fan of this game.
 
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The_Mike said:
What does goldeneye have to do with yes 6 and fallout 5?
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Because Microsoft own rare. Like they own bethesda

If the studio they own puts out a better version of the game on a rival platform, in this case goldeneye, what's stopping skyrim vr coming to psvr2 or TES6 having Vr on playstation and not xbox?
 
Banjo64 said:
Hope no Xbox fans are going to complain about Nintendo setting stipulations for a game they originally published. After all, I've spent the last week reading the gleeful commentary about MS being able to tell Sony to fuck off once they acquire Activision.
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Frank Horrigan said:
But TES 6 and Fallout 5 will 100% be exclusive to xbox. The best place to play!!

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Banjo64 said:
Well why couldn't Xbox just release their completed XBLA version of the game with a functioning online similar to their release of Perfect Dark?
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Frank Horrigan said:
Because Microsoft own rare. Like they own bethesda

If the studio they own puts out a better version of the game on a rival platform, in this case goldeneye, what's stopping skyrim vr coming to psvr2 or TES6 having Vr on playstation and not xbox?
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Nintendo holds the rights to this version of Goldeneye, MS can't remaster it without their approval.

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Banjo64 said:
Nah I'll still buy it and play through the campaign - might even try and do the 00 speed runs. Shame, I won't play multi on Switch.
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I kinda liked the idea if maybe playing online with my brothers, we live in different cities, so it's not like we can just play anytime (if it's offline only)

Maybe I'll try the campaign.
 
Frank Horrigan said:
Because Microsoft own rare. Like they own bethesda

If the studio they own puts out a better version of the game on a rival platform, in this case goldeneye, what's stopping skyrim vr coming to psvr2 or TES6 having Vr on playstation and not xbox?
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Maybe you should understand things before posting.

Microsoft owns Rare. Nintendo owns the right for Goldeneye. That's why it's released on both places.

They own every Bethesda title, which means they will only be on pc and Xbox.
 
Banjo64 said:
Because the XBLA version is it's own SKU, not ran through an emulator, and as such could be altered by Rare to have online multiplayer, just like they did with Perfect Dark.
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pretty sure this one is also not emulated given that they say it was completely remade.
sounds to me more like they either reverse engineered the game to then make an Xbox One version or simply did a full port using the original source code.
 
Naked Lunch said:
Thats... interesting, to say the least. So you mean when you play FZero X online with 3 others - the screen is still split 4 ways?
And essentially you can only play with friends?
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It's as if there's one copy of the game is being played, and the host sharing it. It makes sense thinking of it as if all four players are sharing the same "screen", but that's usually not how it's accomplished (though a streaming video solution is one way to do this type of game-sync multiplayer.)

DaGwaphics said:
This is probably the primary reason why the feature doesn't exist on Xbox. The game isn't built with online multi-player in mind (apparently even the 360 version didn't have that) but Nintendo has that wrapper already in place that basically creates a situation similar to using netplay with an emulator. For all we know the Xbox version is the 360 remaster and will have a mode for enhanced graphics. Have they shown screenshots of the Xbox version yet?
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Naw, it'd be plenty easy to write that into the emulator shell and/or the application.

skit_data said:
I'm a little confused about the thread title, does it actually have co-op? As in cooperation? Isn't it just split screen pvp?

Cuz if it has co-op in the campaign that's actually a pretty cool new feature.
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If the game had a feature in 1997, these releases have that feature. They are emulated (and widescreen-hacked / texture swapped) versions of the N64 ROM, as far as we know.
 
Now I get to watch people pretend they wanted to play MP in this game when they're lucky to even be getting any remaster of a Nintendo game at all. Most will never even touch the split-screen that is available. I wasn't impressed with it back when it was a brand new game, let's see if it an upgraded version makes me think different.
 
CamHostage said:
Naw, it'd be plenty easy to write that into the emulator shell and/or the application.
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I'm just grasping at straws. If Nintendo was really like "you can have it on Xbox, but only if ours is the only version with online", that's kind of petty. If MS isn't offering this for sale outside of the already existing Rare replay, maybe they just didn't want to put much of any effort in at all (beyond all the work they had already done).
 
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CamHostage said:
If the game had a feature in 1997, these releases have that feature. They are emulated (and widescreen-hacked / texture swapped) versions of the N64 ROM, as far as we know.
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But the original game didn't have co-op (hence my question about the thread title). It had splitscreen multiplayer but there weren't any game modes where you actually co-operated (outside of a team deathmatch sense)? I played this a lot as a kid but I might misremember.

Edit: Maybe it's just my definition of co-op that's off. When I think of co-op I think of co-op in the sense that the players cooperate to accomplish a specific goal or play together vs ai-controlled opponents.
 
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skit_data said:
But the original game didn't have co-op (hence my question about the thread title). It had splitscreen multiplayer but there weren't any game modes where you actually co-operated (outside of a team deathmatch sense)? I played this a lot as a kid but I might misremember.
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Oh, I see what you were quoting... yeah, I think that's a goofup of the OP thread title?

There's nothing in the original Rare tweet nor MS's full-scale post about the game that mentions "Co-Op". It says "multiplayer", yes, but I would not have taken that to mean co-op, that says to me that it will carry the same multiplayer mode, IE split-screen deathmatch, that the original had.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/09/13/james-bond-returns-goldeneye-007-on-game-pass/
 
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adamsapple said:
I think it isn't, we've seen long plays of the leaked 360 rebuild and it has different textures. This looks like the NSO version running in 4K.
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So the leaked remaster is a million times better lol, If that's true ,ms has got a really bad deal, no online, no remaster, seems like Nintendo must be laughing their asses off right now, what fools, no wonder they are 3rd place.
 
SenjutsuSage said:
Now I get to watch people pretend they wanted to play MP in this game when they're lucky to even be getting any remaster of a Nintendo game at all. Most will never even touch the split-screen that is available. I wasn't impressed with it back when it was a brand new game, let's see if it an upgraded version makes me think different.
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I'm glad it's hard to hype up the Xbox version, since the game is objectively worse than shooters today.

We shouldn't be that excited at all.
 
ByWatterson said:
I'm glad it's hard to hype up the Xbox version, since the game is objectively worse than shooters today.

We shouldn't be that excited at all.
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it's not "objectively worse than shooters today"
actually even the controls are better than many console shooters today.
it literally has better aiming than fucking Deathloop 🤣
 
onnextflix5 said:
So the leaked remaster is a million times better lol, If that's true ,ms has got a really bad deal, no online, no remaster, seems like Nintendo must be laughing their asses off right now, what fools, no wonder they are 3rd place.
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I swear some of y'all just start popping out of the woodworks every time there's a thread with anything negative towards Xbox lol
 
skit_data said:
But the original game didn't have co-op (hence my question about the thread title). It had splitscreen multiplayer but there weren't any game modes where you actually co-operated (outside of a team deathmatch sense)? I played this a lot as a kid but I might misremember.

Edit: Maybe it's just my definition of co-op that's off. When I think of co-op I think of co-op in the sense that the players cooperate to accomplish a specific goal or play together vs ai-controlled opponents.
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No, your definition is totally correct.

The world has gone bonkers; gears of war often called an "fps", tomb raider a "platformer", local split screen multiplayer "co-op".

Perfect Dark 64 had co-operative play. Goldeneye did not.
 
Frank Horrigan said:
Because Microsoft own rare. Like they own bethesda

If the studio they own puts out a better version of the game on a rival platform, in this case goldeneye, what's stopping skyrim vr coming to psvr2 or TES6 having Vr on playstation and not xbox?
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Who cares about that? Skyrim on Quest is the dream port.
 
No big loss. Perfect dark is better at multiplayer in every conceivable way. It even has the best maps from goldeneye remade. Nostalgia glasses are running really thick if people are pining for online goldeneye. Single player on the other hand….
 
Frank Horrigan said:
Because Microsoft own rare. Like they own bethesda

If the studio they own puts out a better version of the game on a rival platform, in this case goldeneye, what's stopping skyrim vr coming to psvr2 or TES6 having Vr on playstation and not xbox?
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explain how the Switch version of GoldenEye is a better version please...

the Switch version is clearly running on an N64 emulator.
the Xbox One version is described as "faithfully recreated" which should mean it's not emulated but a full port of the game.

the Switch Emulator version will also most likely run at the typical 720p 4:3 resolution and most likely way less stable (N64 emulation is still a shitshow on any platform)

so how is the Switch version better exactly? is it better because you can "play it online", which simply means it uses the typical Nintendo Online N64 emulator's online play, meaning it will have input lag, no matchmaking and basically works like a really bad splitscreen mode with latency.
 
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01011001 said:
explain how the Switch version of GoldenEye is a better version please...

the Switch version is clearly running on an N64 emulator.
the Xbox One version is described as "faithfully recreated" which should mean it's not emulated but a full port of the game.

the Switch Emulator version will also most likely run at the typical 720p 4:3 resolution and most likely way less stable (N64 emulation is still a shitshow on any platform)

so how is the Switch version better exactly? is it better because you can "play it online", which simply means it uses the typical Nintendo Online N64 emulator's online play, meaning it will have input lag, no matchmaking and basically works like a really bad splitscreen mode with latency.
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And the winner for most assumptions in one post goes to...This guy!!!

And yes, it's a better version because it has more features. Slagging it off because of the lack of power on switch vs xbox doesn't mean much.
 
Stuart360 said:
Jesus are Sony fans really creaming themselves over the fact that XBOX users are missing out on onlime MP?. Come on guys ffs.
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Whatever platform you game on, this should have been the ultimate moment for anybody waiting for Goldenye to be re-released, where every dream finally came true.

...And instead, Xbox has a lesser version compared to the remaster Rare did years ago (not to mention it could have been even sweeter if online was added... although, are people still playing Perfect Dark online? If you want this gameplay but better, play that.) And the Nintendo Switch gets the original, with Switch Online multiplayer added, which is all great, but then the Xbox has a prettier and widescreen version.

In a perfect world, things would have been matched better between the two releases (or the Switch Online original version would have been out as a bonus release, maybe earlier than the "remaster", but both platforms would have eventually gotten the "perfect" release with widescreen option and graphic toggles and hifi soundtrack and online.) Perfection is unfortunately not what we got, but I guess you're right, ffs, something is actually happening this time.
 
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Frank Horrigan said:
And the winner for most assumptions in one post goes to...This guy!!!

And yes, it's a better version because it has more features. Slagging it off because of the lack of power on switch vs xbox doesn't mean much.
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no assumptions, we know the Switch verison is an emulation and we know Rare said the Xbox One version is "faithfully recreated" which doesn't sound like Emulation.

we also know online MP using the Switch's simulated local MP over the internet is fucking horrible if you aren't living right next to each other and even then you will have input lag like crazy.

we also know N64 emulation is hot garbage, and we also know Nintendo's N64 emulation is far from perfect.

we also know that Nintendo typically runs their N64 emulation at around 720p at 4:3

the Switch version doesn't have more features, there isn't even a Switch version... the Emulator the N64 version will run in has a certain feature, a really suboptimal one at that, that allows for simulated local MP over the internet

is it even confirmed to have optimised controls on Switch's Emulator? maybe you'll even be stuck with the default control schemes on there, which would mean you'd have to move your character with the Dpad for somewhat modern controls.


edit: if shitty online play is so important for you you'll be easily able to recreate the "Switch Version" on Xbox as well btw.
just install Retroarch and use its netplay feature... done, you're now playing GoldenEye online :)
 
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Frank Horrigan said:
And the winner for most assumptions in one post goes to...This guy!!!

And yes, it's a better version because it has more features. Slagging it off because of the lack of power on switch vs xbox doesn't mean much.
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01011001 said:
edit: if shitty online play is so important for you you'll be easily able to recreate the "Switch Version" on Xbox as well btw.
just install Retroarch and use its netplay feature... done, you're now playing GoldenEye online :)
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I tried demonstrating it and quickly started Retroarch on my Xbox SX, but noone is playing GoldenEye on Retroarch currently, but I found someone playing the CPS version of The Punisher and I hopped in.

you can do this on every core that supports netplay

 
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MarkMe2525 said:
I don't know why this is such a big deal. When I first saw this was coming, online multi-player was the farthest thing from my mind. All I was thinking of was running around as Oddjob in 4 play split screen.
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I'm bummed a bit as I don't have others to play with locally, but excited too. Getting it for free is a nice bonus.

Now the question is, how is the port?
 
Is the implication that the Switch version won't have split-screen? Because disregarding that there's no reason not to have both versions offering the same feature set, it's very odd that the console with the best online infrastructure by far doesn't get online but does get splitscreen, whereas the console marketed at families and made by the company probably closest associated with local multiplayer games (Mario Kart, Mario Party, N64 GoldenEye...) and widely considered to have by far the worst online ends up with the opposite arrangement.

(But like I said, it's quite ridiculous that both versions don't have matching features)
 
xandaca said:
Is the implication that the Switch version won't have split-screen? Because disregarding that there's no reason not to have both versions offering the same feature set, it's very odd that the console with the best online infrastructure by far doesn't get online but does get splitscreen, whereas the console marketed at families and made by the company probably closest associated with local multiplayer games (Mario Kart, Mario Party, N64 GoldenEye...) and widely considered to have by far the worst online ends up with the opposite arrangement.

(But like I said, it's quite ridiculous that both versions don't have matching features)
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It's not an issue of either version having more features than the other, read this:


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93xfan said:
So is there still hope then that it will have the remastered graphics?
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No, I think they meant that some folks are assuming the XBLA remaster might have had online but not this release, where as *none* of the releases had programmable online multiplayer.

The only reason the NSO version has online because the emulator has it, nothing in the game has been updated/modified.
 
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