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Good deals on laptops?

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Scoobert

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Ugh, that is not a good deal! OS, memory, hard drive all extra! Did you also see the part of no battery? Only runs on AC power! You might as well be buying a desktop at the price. Total rip off!

Just stick with dell.com. They always seem to have the best deals.
 

ShadowRed

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The no battery sucks. I added a 512 stic of ram and a 20 gig HD and it went up to 702. Still a good deal for a 2.4 mhz cpu, but the lack of battery screws the deal.



PS How are Emachine laptops. I saw on the Tigerdirect.com they had a 3000xp cpu one for a 1,000. What sort of graphics chip/card do they have?
 

Lhadatt

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Do not buy emachines. This is said just on standard principle.

Do not buy HP/Compaq. Everything from this company sucks.

Do not buy Dell. I used to work for Dell, so I can tell you for a fact that their laptops suck. Actually, you don't have to be an "insider" to know that -- spend a few minutes with a recent Dell, you'll discover it's not really that great a machine. They're too plasticy, not very well put together. Also, where I currently work has a few Dells that are a couple years old -- they don't hold up very well, although this can be said for most PC laptops. Plastic bits break off, screens get loose, latches break, batteries get lost, etc.

My personal picks:

1) Apple: Cannot beat these machines, period. Yes, things do get more expensive in Mac-land, but you will really get a better feeling about it all than you do on the PC side -- Apple's stuff is quality. It's like eating cheesecake made at a small local bakery, as opposed to the Sara Lee frozen stuff from the grocery store. I recommend a Powerbook over an iBook, but even the lower-end plastic chassis models are nice. Running MacOS is not as bad as you might think -- there are tons of applications that match PC functionality, and yes, alot of them are free like the PC side of things (like Bit Torrent :D ). I would not trade my 15" widescreen aluminum Powerbook for anything on the market right now. Also, support freaking ROCKS. Shell out for Applecare, it's worth it.

2) IBM: Bought a second-hand refurbished T23 Thinkpad PIII ~1GHz for some guy at work. Solid as a rock while still being portable. The outsides of these machines have a sort of faux-rubber coating on the chassis (not sure what it is, try to find someone with a Thinkpad to see what I mean), which provides a good grip and lessens the chance for denting, chipping plastic, etc.

3) Fujitsu: My dad has a second-hand PII 233Mhz Fujitsu. This thing is a tank. Yes, we've taken care of it, but it's got to be at least 4 years old now, I can't remember exactly. I've seen the new models at Fry's, and they seem to still have that tank-sturdiness.

Also-rans:

- Toshiba: Haven't seen any bad units from them.
- Sager: Some of their models are the same as Alienware's, and for alot less money. Research them.

If you're going to spend $700 on a laptop, you might as well save up some money for another month or two and buy a $1200 laptop to ensure you're getting QUALITY. It's just like anything else - that extra bit spent on a better laptop means it will last longer and have a higher resale value.

One other note: If you're a student or know a student, by all means EXPLOIT IT! You can get a good chunk knocked off machines from some companies just by saying you're a student. Apple's good about this -- they cater to education and even have an education support department. I'm not even in school anymore, but since I bought my Powerbook while I was in school, they still have me down as eligible for education discounts. Pretty cool stuff.
 

Jim Bowie

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I agree with Lhadatt on the Apple notebooks. Just about everything he said was right (I don't know about the support, though.. I didn't get it.)

Sony's VIAO laptops are also pretty awesome, but again, higher end..

May I suggest a discount laptop seller?
 
I'm also in the market for a laptop and am open to suggestions (my price range is about $1,100-$1,300).

I've been interested in getting an apple notebook for awhile because I never really hear any complaints from people who use them. However, my biggest concerns with Apple are compatibility. I really don't know how bad it is, but that seems to be the #1 knock agains them (with the second negative generally being the price). I'm taking a business software applications class right now and we're using Word, Excel, and Access a lot, so I don't think an Apple would be a good choice.

I've had 2 different sony vaios - teh first one was a PIII that was pretty good, but the top was too "plasticy". The second one I had was awesome - but it was a work laptop so I couldn't keep it forever. My friend recently purchased a Compaq laptop with a 15 inch widescreen and it sems really nice, but I also hear a lot of bad things about Compaq. It's nothing ever specific though...just "Compaq sucks" (kind of like how I'll never buy an E-Machine even if they are good).

The reason I never go with Dell is because they strictly use Pentium's processors. I'm no tech guru, but Athlon's processors are generally much cheaper than a similar quality Pentium.
 

Jim Bowie

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Forgotten Ancient said:
I'm also in the market for a laptop and am open to suggestions (my price range is about $1,100-$1,300).

I've been interested in getting an apple notebook for awhile because I never really hear any complaints from people who use them. However, my biggest concerns with Apple are compatibility. I really don't know how bad it is, but that seems to be the #1 knock agains them (with the second negative generally being the price). I'm taking a business software applications class right now and we're using Word, Excel, and Access a lot, so I don't think an Apple would be a good choice.

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Hihi, Forgotten Ancient! I'm Apple iBook! You can buy me now!
 
May TigerDirect rot in retail hell. The rebate crap the try to pull is for the birds. It's all a "good deal" until it comes time for them to honor their rebates--or pull some technicality in their rules that lets them screw you out of a rebate. Oh, boy, stay away from them and most other too-good-to-be-true rebates.





That said, I've had a Compaq Presario 1266 laptop going on for six years now. It rocks. I dropped it several times, the battery's finally dead just as all laptop batteries eventually loose their life, but it's rocked hard all the way. It's sluggish with WinXP, so like all good performance laptops I'll put Win2000 back on it. Other than capping out at 160MB or ram and having a 6.4 gig hard drive, I played more Balder's Gate on the thing than I can really measure. It's held me through college and the end of high school circa '97, so I can support them in respect of their notebooks being sturdy. However, their desktops leave something to be desired. HP bought or merged with Compaq, so if you find a too-good-to-pass-up deal on one, take it. I got mine for $999.00 as an open box item at Sams Club when it retailed for $1500. Some guy returned it because he didn't like how hot it got in his lap. I'm glad that happened because I got my horse for 1/3 the price, and at the time 333MHz K6-2 mobile smoked any program I threw at it.

A consideration for the future is s-video out. It's entirely helpful if you need to make a presentation or play games on any television with s-video.

Personally, I'm going to hold out until laptops have: (1) fast n cheap DVD writers and (2) upgradable graphics. I hear of upgradable graphics in the future, and that excites me. If I could have upgraded my laptop's graphics, say, three years after I had the thing I could have kept pace with high performance games on the market.



tip: go ahead and get as much ram as you can afford.

upgrade tip: the new 5400 RPM laptop hard drives are coming with 16MB of cache. I hear with all that cache, even at the slower RPM offers insane-fast load times. A friend of mine that is the networking guy for a major building at university installed a huge 5400 RPM and 16MB chache drive in his laptop, and he says performance is through the roof.
 

Lhadatt

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Jim Bowie said:
I agree with Lhadatt on the Apple notebooks. Just about everything he said was right (I don't know about the support, though.. I didn't get it.)

Sony's VIAO laptops are also pretty awesome, but again, higher end..
Thanks. :) And I forgot about Sony.. d'0h.

In my experience, Sonys are good machines, although they're still using plastic chassis. Sony likes to do alot of custom stuff to make their units media machines, so you'll typically get things like low-end SoundForge software, video apps, etc. Even their smaller machines are decently-made and pretty snappy.

Ancient said:
I've been interested in getting an apple notebook for awhile because I never really hear any complaints from people who use them. However, my biggest concerns with Apple are compatibility. I really don't know how bad it is, but that seems to be the #1 knock agains them (with the second negative generally being the price). I'm taking a business software applications class right now and we're using Word, Excel, and Access a lot, so I don't think an Apple would be a good choice.
You should be concerned about compatibility, MacOS X is completely different from Windows, after all. :)

Jim's already pointed out that Apple has a version of MS Office -- it's regularly updated and is very well done. You can get programs that will perform the same functions you're used to on the PC: VLC for watching DIVX movies, numerous FTP clients, Fire (a multi-platform IM client like Trillian), Safari for web browsing (and Firefox/Camino if you don't like those), Stuffit for ZIP files, Toast for CD burning, etc.

Get a Mac, you won't regret it. :)
 

fart

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the best way to get a top quality laptop for not too much is to look at (employee, shareholder, university, company, etc.) discount plans. if you know someone at harvard, for example, they get really great deals on thinkpads. same with IBM employees. apple has a pretty decent employee discount as well. if all else fails look to educational discounts (apple education is about 10% across the board, ibm varies by school). look around at what personal connections you have, etc. but DON'T buy a bargain basement laptop (or any of the dell consumer line). it's just not worth it.
 
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