Shaki12345
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ALL deeds in life are selfish. So by that account you should be too.
They do get something back in return, and that's a "good feeling" for helping you. ALL deeds are selfish.I went to Malta recently for a 4 day trip with my partner. There were so many acts of kindess we encountered.
*We were viewing the sunset on these cliffs and a photographer decided we made a great photo and so without us knowing took some stunning photos of us. Then after he came up to us, asked for my number and sent me them. Didn't ask for anything in return.
*We walked into a restaurant after hiking for 2 hours to just get a coffee and some water and they gave us free food.
*We went into a very popular restaurant and the owner/manager gave us and a few tables surrounding us all free desserts
*We were taking a ferry and our taxi took us to the wrong terminal and drove away. So we thought we wouldn't be able to make it. Then the guy working at the wrong terminal came over and booked us a taxi using his app so we could get a discount and got us to the correct terminal and on to the ferry with a few minutes to spare.
There are a lot of decent people ot there who will do things for you and want nothing in return.
We lust after a lot of things. I do it. Life can be depressing if you’re constantly thinking about the end of the road. When you’re limited or if you’re told what to enjoy, achieve, and obtain. You start lusting after things, so it makes you do whatever it takes to obtain that thing you’ve lusted after.ALL deeds in life are selfish. So by that account you should be too.
RealityWhere the fuck do some of you miserable gits live?
Reality
I'm jumping in in the middle of your conversation and just wanted to add a parenthesis to it. I agree that it's not enough to do good, because a person can do good things for the wrong reasons. For example, provide a friend with food only to later use it against him and demand something in return. Whenever I do something kind to someone I always do it without expecting anything in return. On the other hand, a person who has good and kind thoughts, but never acts on them isn't really a good person. It'd be like claiming to be a generous person, but you never actually offer any of it to anyone.True, but that was not what I was getting at.
What makes a good human being in my opinion are not his actions but his thoughts. People can do goods for many reasons but your own mind cannot be tricked. If you envy others or wish them ill, you are not a good person.
Often times I find it not even hard to learn who just pretends as often spontaneous situations will reveals ones true character. For example the things some people think is funny.
I don’t think that’s really possible. There is this saying that echos through philosophy: You become what you think about. Meaning, if you mean well but don’t act good when a situation presents itself you’re thinking is probably not as good as you see it.I'm jumping in in the middle of your conversation and just wanted to add a parenthesis to it. I agree that it's not enough to do good, because a person can do good things for the wrong reasons. For example, provide a friend with food only to later use it against him and demand something in return. Whenever I do something kind to someone I always do it without expecting anything in return. On the other hand, a person who has good and kind thoughts, but never acts on them isn't really a good person. It'd be like claiming to be a generous person, but you never actually offer any of it to anyone.
Just my two cents, that you might already have talked about, but I'm a special little bee so I wanted to buzz in.*flies away*
Simulation theory requires more faith. And in fact I think it reinforces a Creator. So you already agree with a lot of what I do.
Nope.Simulation theory requires more faith. And in fact I think it reinforces a Creator. So you already agree with a lot of what I do.
Warfare and starvation are not the default human condition for the large majority of the general population.
You should really look into that a bit more.
Ah yes, I remember the discourse about Mother Teresa being, as per old GAF, a piece of shit. From people who will never live a life as hard as hers, and never come close to even thinking how you could help as many people as she actually did.
There are no absolute saints. I mean, Jesus himself flogged the merchants outside the temple and flipped over their tables. If Jesus did this today he wouldn’t be the savior of humanity, he’d be a thug and he’d get arrested for this. Heck, maybe he also got in trouble with the authorities for that back then, it’s just the Gospels don’t tell us. And Jesus basically told a lot of people he deemed unworthy to go f themselves. Every saint has been a dick towards somebody at some point.
Sure, each one of us will be, on average, more good or more evil. The thing is, the random employee being rude to you on a random day may possibly be upset about some shit going on in their life. Or they may be in pain. Or they may have a brain tumor that makes them lose control at times. Problem is, first impressions strike deep, and our current social zeitgeist doesn’t encourage second chances, understanding, and forgiveness. You fuck up once, you’re a total piece of shit for life and removing you may very well save the world from a future Hitler. You’re rude to someone once, a minute later what you did will be on social media and you will lose some sympathy from random people by proxy. Prejudice is totally fine, unless it’s based on race, gender or nationality. And in a world where you can get literally thousands of other people’s opinions on some person, and where most people will more eagerly vent a negative experience than a positive one (not to mention, positive ones may always have been bought), it’s so easy to see monsters where there was simply someone having a bad hair day.
Every “good” person will have to act “evil” at times to make a point. Otherwise you’re not a good person, you’re a doormat.
A doctor telling you you’re obese is not body shaming, they’re telling you that you have a condition that will fuck up your health at some point. A slap on the face or a spanking (occasional, of course, and with moderate force) can teach a child more lessons than a thousand words. And you don’t repel invaders by waving a white flag and welcoming them with open arms: you arm the f up and fight back.
To me, the worst people are the ones who will scam and abuse another for a nickel, or millions of others for millions of nickels.
We are all hypocrites to a degree. We are all selfish when it comes to day-to-day surviving. The real pieces of shits are those who will willingly and knowingly let others to rot, and who will repeatedly do so if given the chance, without a second thought.
On the other hand, you can’t help everyone else, as much as you’d like to. You can’t always be there for everyone who asks you to. You can’t say yes to everyone. Ans that doesn’t make you an evil person.