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[Big Chief Crazy Cone]

Yep sucks in a way cause I've been waiting for my Hero update for ages and that's just for 2.1. Now that it's really close to coming out all this FroYo stuff starts turning up which means I have to wait aaaages for an official 2.2. Mainly because HTC have to rewire everything with Sense UI. I think if a good vanilla rom appears I'll manage to ditch Sense UI. Some of the launcher apps I've seen from the Tasty Desserts thread look brilliant.

I'm in the same boat, on an Eris. I just got the 2.1 update on Sunday, and already it's obsolete. I like Sense a lot for sure, but if I can get a vanilla ROM 6 months earlier, I can just just replace the stock keyboard and be fine with it. FroYo looks too hot to wait.

Anybody know offhand if the Eris can be rooted from OTA 2.1? I remember looking awhile back it took them quite awhile to root it.

Also, do those Flash 10.1 requirements mean no Flash for the Eris/Hero? It only has a Qualcomm 528Mhz CPU. If we're really lucky the requirements will drop as Flash matures, but I doubt it.

 

[belvedere]

Did someone say you can pre-order the Evo at Radio Shack?

 

[giga]

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/ca...es-have-tethering-and-they-can-charge-for-it/

Buy Google branded phones people.

 

[OriginalThinking]

http://twitter.com/paulobrien

Oh yes. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes.

 

[Talon]

Did someone say you can pre-order the Evo at Radio Shack?

Yup. Instant rebate of $100 as well (so you pay $199 at store, not $299), and you get a $20 gift card.

 

[Zeppu]

http://twitter.com/paulobrien

Oh yes. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes.

Paul is awesome.

He's like the undisputed king of Android community right now.

 

[LCfiner]

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/ca...es-have-tethering-and-they-can-charge-for-it/

Buy Google branded phones people.

holy shit.

noted.


coolest thing I saw today was that cloud enabled music store with OTA syncing. very, very cool.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/ca...es-have-tethering-and-they-can-charge-for-it/

Buy Google branded phones people.

In other news, demand for the Nexus One has skyrocketed.

 

[Vanillalite]

Does anyone have a link to today's stuff? I only see yesterday's stuff on the youtube page unless I'm missing something?

 

[belvedere]

Yup. Instant rebate of $100 as well (so you pay $199 at store, not $299), and you get a $20 gift card.

She will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Yup. Instant rebate of $100 as well (so you pay $199 at store, not $299), and you get a $20 gift card.

Really now...

I kinda want an Evo 4G to use just as a mini tablet. I wonder if Sprint will do something stupid that would let me out of the contract without an ETF.

 

[Zozz]

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/ca...es-have-tethering-and-they-can-charge-for-it/

Buy Google branded phones people.

Hopefully Google will release another the Nexus 2? next year. I don't see the N1 being completely outclassed until Q1 or Q2 of next year. By then I can upgrade to a Google branded phone from my Incredible.

 

[Solideliquid]

Is the N1 the only Google branded phone? I thought the moto Droid and HTC incredible were both Google phones?

 

[J Tourettes]

I'm too drunk to go through thw whole thread, are us N1 owners getting Froyo anytime soon?

 

[Vanillalite]

I'm too drunk to go through thw whole thread, are us N1 owners getting Froyo anytime soon?

EDIT: N/M

 

[Macho Madness]

Yeah it's available now provided it's an actual N1 and not an HTC variety.

No it isn't. Nexus One and presumably the Motorola Droid will get Froyo in June.

 

[rykomatsu]

She will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine.

You'll also get a link to an online survey that will give you $10 off $40 at radio shack, useable on the phone

 

[Vanillalite]

No it isn't. Nexus One and presumably the Motorola Droid will get Froyo in June.

My bad that was just for devs...

 

[Mudkips]

Yeah it's available now provided it's an actual N1 and not an HTC variety.

Seems to me "actual N1"s are the "HTC variety".

 

[J Tourettes]

Boo-urns! June is several weeks away.

Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[giga]

WebM and VP8 news. http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...may-not-be-royalty-free-for-long/?mod=ATD_rss

JP: Let me ask you this: are you creating a patent pool license for VP8 and WebM? Have you been approached about creating one?

Larry Horn: Yes, in view of the marketplace uncertainties regarding patent licensing needs for such technologies, there have been expressions of interest from the market urging us to facilitate formation of licenses that would address the market’s need for a convenient one-stop marketplace alternative to negotiating separate licenses with individual patent holders in accessing essential patent rights for VP8 as well as other codecs, and we are looking into the prospects of doing so

 

[layzie1989]

Where can I handle an N1? Verizon stores? ATT?

 

[Vanillalite]

Seems to me "actual N1"s are the "HTC variety".

Well sure they are all made by HTC, but I mean the N1s not the ones with the sense UI.

 

[Macho Madness]

Where can I handle an N1? Verizon stores? ATT?

Nowhere. It's likely the reason the N1 has sold so poorly.

Well sure they are all made by HTC, but I mean the N1s not the ones with the sense UI.

There aren't any N1s with Sense UI.

 

[D4Danger]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/jobs_on_vp8/

Steve Jobs on WebM

He just links to another site (not Gruber for once)

edit: updated link to source

 

[giga]

Steve Jobs on WebM

He just links to another site (not Gruber for once)

I saw that edit. :lol Gizmodo made it pretty misleading though.

 

[D4Danger]

I saw that edit. :lol

I know, Giz just picked part of the link and made it sound like that was his comment.

I fixed it anyway just in case people don't go to the link and think that's what he was saying.

 

[Mudkips]

Well sure they are all made by HTC, but I mean the N1s not the ones with the sense UI.

http://www.google.com/phone
This is the Nexus One.
What are you talking about?

 

[gcubed]

bah june?! Did we get a verified list of 2.2? Music streaming? Send to phone? Order on the web?

 

[giga]

bah june?! Did we get a verified list of 2.2? Music streaming? Send to phone? Order on the web?

Send to phone is there but the other stuff is “at a future date”. Probably gingerbread.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html

 

[SimleuqiR]

Old car dock home screen

Vs

New 2.2 Dock Home Screen

Also landscape mode for the OS

Love how Google takes the good from the mod community.

 

[Macho Madness]

Also landscape mode for the OS
.

REALLY hope there's an option to turn that off.

 

[SimleuqiR]

REALLY hope there's an option to turn that off.

It's probably activate only in car dock mode.

 

[soulja224466]

so i guess no FM radio for n1?

 

[Talon]

Where can I handle an N1? Verizon stores? ATT?

Nowhere. It's likely the reason the N1 has sold so poorly

Google announced that Nexus One was heading to traditional retail outlets earlier this week, so you should expect T-mobile stores to have it in a few weeks.

 

[SimleuqiR]

so i guess no FM radio for n1?

That's hardware specific. They would not talk about that, only Froyo in general, but I believe the Nexus One OTA will have some specific hardware improvements.

 

[giga]

It's probably activate only in car dock mode.

Nadda. You can turn off auto screen rotation though in display settings.

 

[SimleuqiR]

Nadda. You can turn off auto screen rotation though in display settings.

Look the "option", such a novel idea. :lol

 

[The Friendly Monster]

The behind the scenes stuff Google are doing is amazing, particularly Android intents and the browser apis. However I really was hoping for a UI overhaul (I think it looks worse in Froyo), chrome bookmark and history sync in the browser, and big updates to some of the shittier apps (music, listen, a proper video player maybe?).

Google are still lagging way behind other companies when it comes to building hype and delivering something exciting. Why no Froyo today for n1 users?

 

[jonnybryce]

The behind the scenes stuff Google are doing is amazing, particularly Android intents and the browser apis. However I really was hoping for a UI overhaul (I think it looks worse in Froyo), chrome bookmark and history sync in the browser, and big updates to some of the shittier apps (music, listen, a proper video player maybe?).

Google are still lagging way behind other companies when it comes to building hype and delivering something exciting. Why no Froyo today for n1 users?

Um, the whole tech world is excited about what Google just did, from beating Apple to the punch with iTunes in the cloud to market syncing to the fastest web browser on a mobile device and built in wifi hotspot functionality.

Expecting a UI overhaul in a +.1 update is silly.

 

[Vanillalite]

http://www.google.com/phone
This is the Nexus One.
What are you talking about?

The Desire which is the Nexus One + HTC Sense

 

[Foob]

at this point is it pretty much a waste to go for a nexus one? i don't really know what phones are on the horizon besides evo, but is it gonna be outdated real quick here?

 

[Zombie James]

So is the Nexus One the only phone option I would have if I wanted fast OS updates without being tied to a carrier?

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

Can anyone give a quick recap of the new/awesome/useful features coming in 2.2? Not looking for any exchange/business stuff, btw...

I'd greatly appreciate it!

 

[SimleuqiR]

Can anyone give a quick recap of the new/awesome/useful features coming in 2.2? Not looking for any exchange/business stuff, btw...

I'd greatly appreciate it!

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html

 

[gcubed]

at this point is it pretty much a waste to go for a nexus one? i don't really know what phones are on the horizon besides evo, but is it gonna be outdated real quick here?

Eh the internals are still all the same on the htc phones, probably got till end of year until the hardware is surpassed

 

[The Friendly Monster]

Um, the whole tech world is excited about what Google just did, from beating Apple to the punch with iTunes in the cloud to market syncing to the fastest web browser on a mobile device and built in wifi hotspot functionality.

Google have always been ahead of Apple in terms of tech and always will be. It's usability that is my concern.

Expecting a UI overhaul in a +.1 update is silly.

Well I did say "hoping" rather than "expecting". In any case I would have liked to have seen UI be a bigger priority for them rather than them taking steps back (in my opinion).

 

[sprsk]

I don't understand why people would buy googletv.

It's just a search engine?

 

[Macho Madness]

I don't understand why people would buy googletv.

It's just a search engine?

It's a web browser. And Android apps.

 

[Husker86]

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/ca...es-have-tethering-and-they-can-charge-for-it/

Buy Google branded phones people.

I would if GSM carriers in the US didn't suck so much