Wait, what? Explain please, are you saying I've made a huge mistake?
Google Pixel 2 - answers are coming Oct 4th
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Wait, what? Explain please, are you saying I've made a huge mistake?
BoosterDuck
Banned
no, what I'm saying is that the apps haven't been optimized for Android 8 yet; which will get fixed in a few months
but the Pixel is covered for 3 years so you're getting Android P and Q anyways so it doesn't matter
Bruh, don't scare me like that lol.
Systemwarrior
Member
Im very torn between Pixel 2 XL and the iPhone X.
What a shit preso. Two utterly uninspiring (and overpriced) phones, a Chromebook which costs way more than a Chromebook ever should, and a padding out of the Google Home line (which is totally unnecessary considering Sony, Panasonic, Sonos etc. are making Google Assistant enabled speakers now anyway).
Duchess O'Death
Member
Not very happy with announcements either.
No Andromeda I guess. Pixelbook looks good enough hardware-wise but Chrome OS is a losing proposition, if that's what I wanted I'd get a Surface and run Bluestacks.Until they can get a better OS with a real non-mobile ecosystem under it, there's nothing they can do to make it interesting.
Pixel is yet again about a year behind in terms of design but still pretending it can hang with other flagships which already don't deserve their price points. This is what happens when phones are an oligopoly, high prices and no effort.
Google Home. It's fine, I guess? I mean it's a year later and it still screams "me too!" instead of trying to lead.
PixelBuds. Use lack of headphone jack to sell expensive branded accessories, business smart and very Apple-esque, eye rolling for me. Assistant translate is kinda cool, but stop selling it as a hardware thing when it's clearly not.
Clips. I like new ideas but, yeah, I don't see a future here. +1 for trying.
No Andromeda I guess. Pixelbook looks good enough hardware-wise but Chrome OS is a losing proposition, if that's what I wanted I'd get a Surface and run Bluestacks.Until they can get a better OS with a real non-mobile ecosystem under it, there's nothing they can do to make it interesting.
Pixel is yet again about a year behind in terms of design but still pretending it can hang with other flagships which already don't deserve their price points. This is what happens when phones are an oligopoly, high prices and no effort.
Google Home. It's fine, I guess? I mean it's a year later and it still screams "me too!" instead of trying to lead.
PixelBuds. Use lack of headphone jack to sell expensive branded accessories, business smart and very Apple-esque, eye rolling for me. Assistant translate is kinda cool, but stop selling it as a hardware thing when it's clearly not.
Clips. I like new ideas but, yeah, I don't see a future here. +1 for trying.
After letting the whole thing sink in, I'm starting to think that this is the worst regression I can ever think of in the smartphone industry. The design, hardware and everything else is way behind the curve and Google is just trying to differentiate using their software prowess, which I can understand but only software doesn't sell. The mantra of hardware & software synergy is why Apple has been so successful and Google seems to be just under-utilizing or not extending itself in the hardware/design category.
CPU? It's a 7 month old processor and Google is promising 3 years of updates. :/ I wouldnt want to be running Android R on this thing.
RAM? 4GB is now the norm for flagships when 3GB is becoming the norm for mid-tiers
Camera? Single lens, while loling at Apple, when they can't even come close to emulating the benefits of a dual-lens setup.
Screen? Again, nothing remarkable for a flagship.
Design? Very uninspiring and the regular Pixel 2 was just sent out to die.
Other HW Standout features? Squeeze so far looks gimmicky.
No wireless charging
No headphone jack
Software features
Lens: Awesome, awesome feature. Really unmatched in it's category and implementation.
Video stabilization: Awesome, now that finally OIS is in the Pixel, the stabilization looks phenomenal. Again, this is one of those Google's weird decisions that they chose to omit OIS in the original Pixel and decided to rely on their software to bridge the gap.
"Portrait Mode: Very poor implementation from the samples I've seen so far. Maybe it'll get better but it's a gap that they chose to live with going with the software route.
Stickers: Meh, will nowhere be as popular as something like Animoji.
AR: Demo was very mediocre, just like Apple's. I guess this is something that's not ready or hasn't been showcased as a killer app in any conference, even in Microsoft's.
Basically Google is asking a top-tier flagship price for a phone that is undoubtedly very by-the-numbers and using their software lead to differentiate.
CPU? It's a 7 month old processor and Google is promising 3 years of updates. :/ I wouldnt want to be running Android R on this thing.
RAM? 4GB is now the norm for flagships when 3GB is becoming the norm for mid-tiers
Camera? Single lens, while loling at Apple, when they can't even come close to emulating the benefits of a dual-lens setup.
Screen? Again, nothing remarkable for a flagship.
Design? Very uninspiring and the regular Pixel 2 was just sent out to die.
Other HW Standout features? Squeeze so far looks gimmicky.
No wireless charging
No headphone jack
Software features
Lens: Awesome, awesome feature. Really unmatched in it's category and implementation.
Video stabilization: Awesome, now that finally OIS is in the Pixel, the stabilization looks phenomenal. Again, this is one of those Google's weird decisions that they chose to omit OIS in the original Pixel and decided to rely on their software to bridge the gap.
"Portrait Mode: Very poor implementation from the samples I've seen so far. Maybe it'll get better but it's a gap that they chose to live with going with the software route.
Stickers: Meh, will nowhere be as popular as something like Animoji.
AR: Demo was very mediocre, just like Apple's. I guess this is something that's not ready or hasn't been showcased as a killer app in any conference, even in Microsoft's.
Basically Google is asking a top-tier flagship price for a phone that is undoubtedly very by-the-numbers and using their software lead to differentiate.
Top and bottom bezels are slightly bigger, side bezels are slightly smaller.
Yeah, it's the LG V30 for me.
- headphone jack
- actual effort put into audio quality
- wide angle lens for more dramatic photos and versatility in tight spaces
- better design with slimmer bezels
- will be cheaper than the Pixel 2 XL
I couldn't care less about all the AI/Assistant stuff.
- headphone jack
- actual effort put into audio quality
- wide angle lens for more dramatic photos and versatility in tight spaces
- better design with slimmer bezels
- will be cheaper than the Pixel 2 XL
I couldn't care less about all the AI/Assistant stuff.
mkbhd pixel 2 impressions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iObySa91b0&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iObySa91b0&feature=youtu.be
It's a nice phone...For £630 though...hmm. There's neither no killer feature to justify the price tag, not all roundedness that you couldn't find cheaper with another brand unless direct OS support was your weakness
Solid but a little underwhelming. I'm currently rocking and enjoying a Moto Z Play I picked up for £240, I'm potentially looking for a new toy for early next year and with this I'm not seeing an additional £400 of value.
Solid but a little underwhelming. I'm currently rocking and enjoying a Moto Z Play I picked up for £240, I'm potentially looking for a new toy for early next year and with this I'm not seeing an additional £400 of value.
Ordered the 🐼 phone at Deutsche Telekom. Free Home mini also. Delivery mid November.
Strange is their list of box content:
Google Pixel 2 XL
Netzladegerät
USB C-Kabel
USB C-Kopfhörer
USB-C auf 3
5 mm Kopfhöreradapter
Quick Switch Adapter
SIM-Tool
They are listing earphones in the box.
Strange is their list of box content:
Google Pixel 2 XL
Netzladegerät
USB C-Kabel
USB C-Kopfhörer
USB-C auf 3
5 mm Kopfhöreradapter
Quick Switch Adapter
SIM-Tool
They are listing earphones in the box.
RastaMentality
Banned
When Google Translate becomes far more accurate in the future, those earbuds will revolutionize international travel and human speech. I'm surprised there's not more online about the translation feature.
Really interested in the Pixelbook, curious that they haven't announced an Australian price yet. Though I don't think they have for the Home Mini yet either.... never mind, it's $80. I guess that means we aren't getting the Pixelbook anytime soon. Gives me time to wait for impressions instead of a compulsive buy. I mainly want it for a premium tablet experience.
Ugh, a 60% upmark on the Mini from $50 to $80, when the conversion rate is 1.28 at the moment. 'coz that's fair.
Agreed, that feature looks fantastic.
Ugh, a 60% upmark on the Mini from $50 to $80, when the conversion rate is 1.28 at the moment. 'coz that's fair.
Agreed, that feature looks fantastic.
Dorsal Axe
Member
I agree with you, though I think Home Mini is a neat product and something Google definitely needed to release.
andythinkpad
Member
that clip camera is a great idea but $250 is way too expensive. I am going to wait for it bomb and pick up a couple for 100ish.
Spaulding
Member
I'd screenshot that page... As far as I know there's no headphones included. Maybe Telekom will include it...
Snarfington
Member
Some territories require the inclusion of headphones by law. It's probably that either Germany is one of those territories, or shares stock with one (I'm pretty sure France requires them, for example).
I do find myself increasingly creeped out by Googles obsession with machine learning everything and obviously they had to go that route with this press conference given the hardware they had to show but every time I heard 'And with your permission we...' I shuddered.
It was great that they made a point of designing the clip camera around not automatically sharing anything, but slightly suspicious that there were none of the same assurances around what they're going to do with your voice profile once they've 'got your permission' to create it.
That said, my mind is a bit blown by offline Shazam, seemed like the most impossible thing in the world when cloud servers started doing it and now Pixel is going to do it while it's sleeping.
It was great that they made a point of designing the clip camera around not automatically sharing anything, but slightly suspicious that there were none of the same assurances around what they're going to do with your voice profile once they've 'got your permission' to create it.
That said, my mind is a bit blown by offline Shazam, seemed like the most impossible thing in the world when cloud servers started doing it and now Pixel is going to do it while it's sleeping.
ShadowFox08
Member
The justification is making it thinner, lighter, and more water/dust proof
You understand that Android has been pretty well optimized to run on weaker hardware right? The only risk is that in the future developers create or upgrade their apps to require significantly more ram usage. Budget Android phones are already at 4 GB ram. On well optimized custom versions of Android, all you need is 2GB. Xperia Z3 compact (2gb of ram) still flys.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I can think of a thinner, lighter, and more water proof phone out now that has a headphone jack. And sells for less
We're moving backwards. I'm perfectly content holding on to my G4 even knowing its hardware defects. Having that replaceable battery has afforded me a larger battery/case that's unobtrusive and that expandable memory is a godsend.
Even as a two/three year old phone it does everything you'd want/need out of a phone.
These flagships are not worth it any longer.
Even as a two/three year old phone it does everything you'd want/need out of a phone.
These flagships are not worth it any longer.
After enjoying my Pixel quite a bit this looks pretty disappointing. Thankfully I wasn't looking to get a new phone anytime soon but the lack of a headphone jack and the other underwhelming hardware choices would've been a no-go regardless. Hopefully it's better with the next iteration or I'll have to go elsewhere for my phone.
PodcastFips
Member
Just preordered the XL 2 in black and white at Deutsche Telekom, with mid-november delivery.
I'll also order the V30 for a hands on comparison and return one out of the two phones.
I'll also order the V30 for a hands on comparison and return one out of the two phones.
The Pixel 2 is .01 inches thicker at the bottom and .04 thinner at the top than the original Pixel. Both phones are listed as 143 grams. Rubber gaskets and other methods are used in plenty of devices, including slim handsets, to make them water resistant.
If you don't care about bezels and mainly care about camera then the Pixel 2 seems to be a no brainer. Best smartphone camera for $650. Pixel 2 might be the best value on the market right now, wow.
Winterblink
Member
Preordered the black XL because my Nexus 6P is starting to show its two year age. I get that there's a lot of gripes about the new Pixel but I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on it. Personally I'm kind of over the headphone jack argument. I understand it, and I do agree with it, but for the most part I've been using bluetooth to listen to audio (in car or on wireless headphones) for quite some time with my 6P. I think I can live without.
Me too. I like the art ones, specifically the space ones. Thinking I might get a case and the glass protector.
Damir is the most critical impression I've seen so far lol.
Says the bezels look even worse in person 🤔
Plasticy but grippy phone.
https://youtu.be/RL2eoqNN5Yc
Says the bezels look even worse in person 🤔
Plasticy but grippy phone.
https://youtu.be/RL2eoqNN5Yc
What does that have to do with anything?
I mean yea I guess she could just pay full price for an iPhone. She'd be jealous of my 50% off phone though ha.
The only other thing is I still have ~$250 to pay off Verizon early termination fee if I would do this.
any chance I would get around $250 for a Verizon S7 32 GB with the top messed up a bit from a drop (no cracks though)...
I should probably just wait until my contract is up next year and for a a Pixel 3.
The only other thing is I still have ~$250 to pay off Verizon early termination fee if I would do this.
any chance I would get around $250 for a Verizon S7 32 GB with the top messed up a bit from a drop (no cracks though)...
I should probably just wait until my contract is up next year and for a a Pixel 3.
LostMyNarbles
Member
What the heck kind of argument is this? A lot of what you said could apply to Apple as well.
RAM: The iPhone 8 uses 2GB and the 8+ uses 3GB so how can you even suggest 4GB is the norm?
Camera: Single Lense on the standard iPhone 8.
Screen: Define remarkable? The iPhone 8 displays aren't exactly super amazing given the resolutions they are still working with.
Design: The recycled 4 year design of the iPhone 8 is tiring at this point.
Headphone Jack: None
Other standout hardware features? The speakers, but they are lacking compared to the dual front-facing Pixel 2 speakers and there is wireless charging.
The Albatross
Member
Android 8 user here for the last few weeks... Haven't had many (if any?) app crashes.
Apps I regularly use:
- Inbox
- hangouts
- Textra
- PocketCasts
- Allo
- Snapchat
- Photos
- Camera
- Chrome
- YouTube TV
- LevelUp
- YouTube
- Starbucks - This was actually messed up this week randomly, but it didn't seem connected to Android 8 as it had been fine after updated. The app was unuseable for a day for me, and I had to logout and login to get it to work again.
- Yahoo Fantasy Football
- CoinBase
- Android Pay
- Kindle
- Audible
- NYT
- Uber
- Venmo
- YouTube
- Play Music
Haven't noticed any extaneous crashes with those, but maybe there's some major apps I don't use regularly that have been messed up.
Can't you have Verizon unlock the iPhone and just bring it over to TMo? I thought all phones sold in the last couple years had to be unlockable so you can do just this sort of thing.
hmmm... She has a 6S+. I'll have to look into it.
It depends on the band support. With T-Mobile, if you don't have Band 12, it's pretty much not worth it. The other issue is the CDMA\GMS handoff, if your phone doesn't support GSM, it'll drop it's connection if it can't find a LTE signal on T-Mobile.
According android central the Verizon S7 only supports bands 2 and 4, so it'll work with T-Mobile, but without band 12, like I said, it's just not worth it.
edit
As long as it's a 6S or newer, it should work perfectly fine on T-Mobile, it's the Galaxy S7 that would have issues.
I misread the post, my apologies.
hmmm.
so she could bring her 6S Plus, I could sell my S7 to pay off the Verizon early termination fee, and I could get the XL 2 for 50% through TMobile's promo.
or wait til Pixel 3 and not deal with the early termination stuff... I would prefer a non-XL sized phone but with the bezels of the XL 2.
so she could bring her 6S Plus, I could sell my S7 to pay off the Verizon early termination fee, and I could get the XL 2 for 50% through TMobile's promo.
or wait til Pixel 3 and not deal with the early termination stuff... I would prefer a non-XL sized phone but with the bezels of the XL 2.
I am running 8 on a 6p and it has been flawless
What is the cleaning like for the fabric case? I imagine it will get gross pretty quick unless there is an easy way to clean it. I know i wipe my phone case down at least once a week.