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[tommib]

Using estimated number from 3rd party, yeah right.

I want official number from Sony.

The level of trolling is high with this one. I think you should stick to saying GT7 looks from 2 generations ago. Did you cry when GT officially entered the Olympics this year? I'm done with haters. Everyone's riding the ignore list.

 

[Unknown?]

The level of trolling is high with this one. I think you should stick to saying GT7 looks from 2 generations ago. Did you cry when GT officially entered the Olympics this year? I'm done with haters. Everyone's riding the ignore list.

Funny how players don't matter now with GT but they do with Forza that's given away on a subscription service.

Also trying hard to say there are multiple accounts when that's the case with ALL games using this metric.

Well, GTS is the best online racing game of the PS4 gen but it was sold for 19 bucks one month after it launched. Its when I bought it, right before the update came out. Even Sony slashed its price on the PS Store by then.

That was only for a holiday sale and it went back to full price after. It wasn't permanently cut till a year later.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The GOAT of car games!

 

[Gameplaylover]

That was only for a holiday sale and it went back to full price after. It wasn't permanently cut till a year later.

At least in Europe it was never full price again. It was released Octobre 2017 for 60 Euro and already from November 2017 on it was 99% of the time below 30 bucks.

 

[Elios83]

Can't wait for the return of Gran Turismo with GT7.
Everything about the game looks amazing, the PS3 games were great but had some compromises due to technical and time limitations (see the premium and standard cars...), GT Sport was great but online focused.
GT7 seems to be the first fully uncompromised package since the PS2 days basically

PS: LOL at the trolls that still want to compare this to an arcade title at all costs trying to derail threads about other great games.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I think thats a great number considering its not on a service like Game Pass unless I am thinking wrong which is totally possible

 

[Unknown?]

I think thats a great number considering its not on a service like Game Pass unless I am thinking wrong which is totally possible

It's never been on PS+ or PS Now.

 

[lh032]

GT7 will be the biggest racing game ever.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

It's never been on PS+ or PS Now.

So all those numbers are people who actually paid for it even if it has been on sale?

I think thats a very good number then but then again the brain isn't totally plugged in yet this morning

 

[Flutta]

Deserved, very good game.

 

[ethomaz]

Congrats on the son, I never knew you had one!

So maybe 10M sales for sport?

Thanks.

I had one more recently… a little girl… she will be 3 months old in Christmas

 

[prinz_valium]

Thank god GT7 isn't PS5 exclusive

 

[ethomaz]

Was it on PS+ or Now recently? Otherwise i doubt GTS suddenly gained 6m players in 10 month when it took them 3,5 years to gain 9,5m, because in February we officially were at 9,5m.

That is old data… the interview happened in 2020.
GTS reached 9.5m in around March 2020.

It never had a PS+ or PS Now version.

BTW after COVID the avg. registered players doubled per day… it was 7-8k per day and increased to 17-20k per day during the COVID period.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[ethomaz]

Other games were dirt cheap on sales too and didn't make a 6 million jump years after the release. I rather think it's 15m registered people, not 15m GTS players. But maybe Polyphony Digital studio boss Kazunori Yamauchi will give some official numbers when GT7 releases.

You know registered players is the same tha players lol

Each registered players is a unique PSN account that played the game at least once.

As far as i know it's from this interview that happened this year:

現実を超えた先にある体験価値とは│『グランツーリスモ』考案者に聞くデジタル世界の可能性 | octane.jp | 美しい車と暮らす

すでに3年ほど前のことになるが、インターネットで漫然と自動車写真を検索していて、ある写真に出くわした。それはアメリカのアリゾナ州にあるザ・ウェーブと呼ばれる独特の地形をもつ秘境に、WECを走るマシンが静止している写真だった。2021年、つい

octane.jp

If it's really 16.700.000 players right now, i would be more than impressed and surprised, but i think it's just registered users.

There is no difference between registered players and players lol

The data is public so you can check all the 15 million players and it includes how much each PSN account drives and all.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[ethomaz]

So you are saying i can't make an account there if i don't own the game or never played it? Gonna give it a try if i find my PS login data

Exactly.
The account is only created after you enter in the game at least once and it is tied to PSN account.
BTW beta accounts change status to GTS accounts when you play the main game too.

I can help you to find it… I have all the data in a database... if you login with your PSN account you will be redirected to your GTS account page if you played the game once too.

Log in here: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/user/

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[ethomaz]

I can login with my Sony Id, but it looks weird, got only the option to log out or go to home

Did you never played the game?
You need to launch and enter in the main screen of GTS first to have a GTS account... and only somebody that played the game online once have a account too.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[ethomaz]

Never ever played it, but could login on that site. Maybe that already counts in their system, since i'm obviously logged in even if something seems weird.

You don't have an account... no.
You are logged in PSN... not GTS community.

You need to play the game at least once to your GTS account to be created.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Never ever played it, but could login on that site. Maybe that already counts in their system, since i'm obviously logged in even if something seems weird.

Just no lol

 

[ethomaz]

Gameplaylover

That is how it looks if you have a GTS Account.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[ethomaz]

That site is weird, i'm on www.gran-turismo.com/ and it says i'm logged it. Maybe you are right and my feeling is absolutely wrong, but >7 million new players in like 10 months still sounds too much for an old game. Perhaps we get some official numbers with the release and if i was wrong, i'll be the first to admit it here. I can admit a mistake.

You are logged on PSN lol
There is nothing weird in the site.

If you have a GTS Account tied to PSN Account it shows your GTS Account.
If you don't have a GTS Account tied to PSN Account it shows nothing only the logout option (logout from PSN).

You absolutely never played the game.

It was around 5 million players from March 2020 to December 2021.
You are created false numbers to try to deny official numbers?

 

[Gameplaylover]

Edit: I was wrong about the date of the interview.

 

[Lognor]

At least in Europe it was never full price again. It was released Octobre 2017 for 60 Euro and already from November 2017 on it was 99% of the time below 30 bucks.

Same thing in the US. It went in the bargain bin a month after release and stayed there. Maybe it didn't get an official price cut but retailers were selling it for dirt cheap (under $20).

 

[Kilau]

You are logged on PSN lol
There is nothing weird in the site.

If you have a GTS Account tied to PSN Account it shows your GTS Account.
If you don't have a GTS Account tied to PSN Account it shows nothing only the logout option (logout from PSN).

You absolutely never played the game.

It was around 5 million players from March 2020 to December 2021.

I've never played GT Sport.

 

[ethomaz]

Ok, no problem. Then my guess with the registered users was wrong, what an insane amount of new players. I really hope we get something official soon.

Like I said it is around 3 million new users per year in COVID period.
BTW that is the official numbers... it was ever public.

 

[ethomaz]

I've never played GT Sport.

Exactly

Never played GTS = No account in the site.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Same thing in the US. It went in the bargain bin a month after release and stayed there. Maybe it didn't get an official price cut but retailers were selling it for dirt cheap (under $20).

Just stop with this blatant trolling. It's pathetic

 

[Gameplaylover]

Like I said it is around 3 million new users per year in COVID period.

Please explain that one to me again. Where does it say the interview with Kazunori Yamauchi ist older? Every source i can find is from this year and he said 9,5m.

 

[ethomaz]

At that time, there were 13.412.701 registered player account e, so It seems that Poliphony counts its player with a different criterion. Maybe they don't count different account from the same IP address?

The rule is each PSN Account hat played the game once have a GTS Account.
The unique id of the GTS account is the same as your PSN Account.
You can't create two accounts with the same PSN Account.

 

[ethomaz]

Please explain that one to me again. Where does it say the interview with Kazunori Yamauchi ist older? Every source i can find is from this year and he said 9,5m.

I explained that even on GTPlanet already.
The numbers were old from late 2019... it was showed in a presentation with Kaz... and so in the interview he said it again.

In Feb 2020 it was already near 10 million accounts.

The numbers are public you know... we know them.

 

[Lognor]

Just stop with this blatant trolling. It's pathetic

Stating facts is trolling now? I just looked on slickdeals and confirmed it was $30 a month after release. It dropped to $20 a couple months after that. And then as low as $10 not much later.

 

[ethomaz]

That number makes more sense. I guess it's really registered users only then and not GTS players. Guess people are already registering for GT7.

Nope.
You can't because it is another site for GT7 and API.

BTW you can only register a account launching the game with your PSN account... there is no other way... you need at least reach the Main screen of the game and accept the GTS Terms.

 

[ethomaz]

you can have few accounts for a single game copy, number of real users is probably around 10 milions

That is correct.
Different PSN accounts can play the same copy of the game (digital or physical).

 

[Gameplaylover]

I explained that even on GTPlanet already.
The numbers were old from late 2019... it was showed in a presentation with Kaz... and so in the interview he said it again.

In Feb 2020 it was already near 10 million accounts.

The numbers are public you know... we know them.

Man i wish i knew that before embarassing myself. When i clicked this topic i remembered the news from February and instantly said no way it's 16.7m now when it was 9,5 in early 2021. ~3m per year in Corona makes much more sense and is absolutely possible. I officialy state that i made a mistake/was wrong and 16.7m players is impressive.

See tommi how it works? A nice discussion with some facts and no bitching/crying and ignoring.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Stating facts is trolling now? I just looked on slickdeals and confirmed it was $30 a month after release. It dropped to $20 a couple months after that. And then as low as $10 not much later.

How are you stating facts when you've already had to backpeddle?

 

[ethomaz]

I think thats a great number considering its not on a service like Game Pass unless I am thinking wrong which is totally possible

It was never been in a sub service.
Nove even in that Plus Collection for PS5 buyers.

 

[Lognor]

How are you stating facts when you've already had to backpeddle?

I was going off memory. Then I pulled the receipts. My last post is chock full of facts. And this is only based on deals posted in slickdeals so there may have been earlier, and better, deals that were more under the radar. I'll let you research that

 

[Kittehkraken]

I'm not surprised. Racing games, sims especially, got a huge boost in popularity during the pandemic.

Racing wheels where going for absurd prices on Ebay because the demand was so high.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I was going off memory. Then I pulled the receipts. My last post is chock full of facts. And this is only based on deals posted in slickdeals so there may have been earlier, and better, deals that were more under the radar. I'll let you research that

Lmao you've posted fuck all reciepts. Anyone can pull numbers out of their ass about a deal they got 5 years ago.

 

[ethomaz]

For anybody curious and want to check.
Using the profile number count (it started on 1000000) from yesterday time I posted the thread to now:

- 12-13 hours
- Yesterday last created account tied to PSN EoAlvaro: 16701026 (https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/user/profile/16701026/overview)
- Right now last created account tied to PSN Raj_0011: 16708793 (https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/user/profile/16708793/overview)

Total of 7,767 new PSN accounts that played GTS.

If it continues at that rate it will probably be around 15k new players in 24 hours... about the average I talked before post COVID... it was average around 7-8k in 24 hours for 2019 before COVID started.

PS. If people thinks it is not player accounts lol... for example EoAlvaro drived 34 miles since he created the accouont.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Same thing in the US. It went in the bargain bin a month after release and stayed there. Maybe it didn't get an official price cut but retailers were selling it for dirt cheap (under $20).

But that's just physical, digital prices probably were much higher. But no idea about the ratio.

 

[Tripolygon]

I officialy state that i made a mistake/was wrong and 16.7m players is impressive.

This is hard to come by on gaf so kudos to owning it.

 

[ethomaz]

Funny how players don't matter now with GT but they do with Forza that's given away on a subscription service.

Also trying hard to say there are multiple accounts when that's the case with ALL games using this metric.

Just to use your point to explain to everybody else in theread.

- Each GTS Account is tied to a single PSN Account.
- You can have multiple accounts but you need multiple PSN Accounts.
- GTS Accounts are only created when you accept the terms in the main screen of the game when you launch it the first time.

So the numbers can be interpreted as 15m+ PSN Accounts played GTS at least once.

It is a more restrictive metric than Forza games for example that counts free trials players.... GTS had no trial and GTS Beta is counted as Status = 2 (it changes to 1 when you accept the terms of GTS main game in the main screen... it don't create a new GTS account but change the status only).

 

[Lognor]

Lmao you've posted fuck all reciepts. Anyone can pull numbers out of their ass about a deal they got 5 years ago.

I said it was on slickdeals. I'm not going to pay the countless deals that were available right after launch. You can easily check

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I said it was on slickdeals. I'm not going to pay the countless deals that were available right after launch. You can easily check

Lmao i'm not checking your facts for you little troll

 

[Lognor]

Lmao i'm not checking your facts for you little troll

So again, stating facts is trolling? Not my fault that you're triggered by gts going in the bargain bin shortly after launch.