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Gran Turismo Sport is extremely limited in offline mode (no saves, unlocks, etc..)
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Sweet Bellic
Member
Always online defense force too... Apparently few ITT ever take their PS4s on trips to places without reliable internet, or experience internet outages, or have ever had no internet while switching ISPs. Smh. Tying offline progression to an online server as seen in Hitman and now GT:Sport is completely unnecessary and indefensible.
This too. Completely devalues the game.
I am an adult in 2017 privileged enough to have an always online gigabit connection, but I like my games to be playable in the future, so I do care about always online single player games as Sony (and other companies for other games) isn't going to keep those servers up forever.
Exactly. Overwatch doesn't say this on the PSN store:
"Online Play (Optional)"
They changed the meaning of "Online Play". Or the word "Optional"... :/
Ryu Hayabusa
Member
Wait.... no saves? This is crazy.
My copy hasn't arrived yet, but I'm pretty sure you do in Arcade mode. They're synced to the servers when they come up.
Maybe someone else here can confirm or deny this.
that means I was right, if you posted this
AmaterasuOkami076
Member
I understand multiplayer is the future and all that but I can't wait for a proper, numbered Gran Turismo.
AstroNut325
Member
I can't believe there's outrage over this.
Edit:
What is your definition of a proper GT? 1000 cars and 100+ tracks? Would you be willing to sacrifice the quality and attention to detail that GTS provides?
Edit:
What is your definition of a proper GT? 1000 cars and 100+ tracks? Would you be willing to sacrifice the quality and attention to detail that GTS provides?
PLEASE
Syncing to the servers would be alright. Hopefully thats what happens. Wouldnt make sense otherwise imo. My copy will arrive tomorrow, so Im just biting my nails off from seeing everybody play.
20cent
Banned
I've just played while waiting for the update (12gb) to download in the background, it said that it won't save when I started the game.
Each time I start an arcade mode track, it gives me 3 connection errors/unable to save in a row before loading. After restarting the game (update still not complete),none of my times were saved.
No, it doesn't save offline, at all.
GeordieMark
Member
I get what you're saying, but this game will either be kept updated, or replaced altogether. In principle, I like the idea of still being able to play the old GT games, but in reality I never have gone back once a new one is out.
For me the annoyance is that I have limited time to play games, and its incredibly annoying when I sit down to play a game and can't because of 'server maintenance'. Used to happen all the time with Destiny as the downtime always seemed to be scheduled to coincide with most of Europe finishing work.
that means I was right, if you posted this
It means you're full of it.
It's good that it is on the box. But PSN Store is missing this "sticker", in fact it implies the opposite.
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...port/cid=UP9000-CUSA03220_00-GTSPORTS00000000
chromatic9
Member
it isn't. You would think so though.
This is one of my main problems with the game. Offline there's no point doing the campaign or arcade races to unlock cars as nothing is saved. If you disconnect you can't even go into My Library to export your photos. You'd think when the servers are down and no online racing you'd be able to do the other stuff and with PD's track record with servers I wouldn't want to try.
Imagine taking part in the campaign enduro challenges and the servers go down, you lose 30-60 mins of racing even though you're not racing online.
I hope they can patch in offline progression and allow access to menus and stuff. My PS4 Pro is not online much.
Fess
Member
* /Xbox One at the initial unveil.
If you can't understand why there is an outcry for these things then you're not thinking clearly, internet connections and servers aren't always up, the game is launched worldwide, in "Why would I want to live there?" locations, etc. In short, you obviously shouldn't assume that everybody in the world can be or want to be connected like you. It may not be bad for you but that doesn't mean that it isn't bad for the industry. Don't defend this. Nothing good comes from this.
Sony makes the assumption that "You're online so what's the problem?"
Ninja Scooter
Member
Sony should 100% remedy that and put the same sticker/information on the digital version. Seems shitty not to.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
I think this is a legitimate gripe and that Sony should absolutely clarify it.
Agreed.
AmaterasuOkami076
Member
Offline Single player. A few more tracks and cars wouldn't hurt though.
weird thing, because actually it does (at least in beta):
so, I don't know - it's a mystery
Then it's even more idiotic.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Makes sense if you take the "FIA/eSports" reason for the truth.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
Dear gaming public, we didn't want to make the same game with better graphics for the seventh time in a row. This is our vision, this is where the future of gaming lies. We hope you will accept this.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
Thanks for the heads up. Thankfully Amazon hadn't shipped my steelbook edition yet so I cancelled the order. What a joke.
Goldrusher
Member
That quote doesn't mention the career, which contains 200+ offline events, which cannot be played if you're not connected to their servers.
There is absolutely no reason for these events to require an internet connection, but they do.
So if your internet is down, or their servers are undergoing maintenance, the OFFLINE events are unplayable.
But how many people who buy the game will be aware of this? We are talking about a million seller game.
Complicated
Banned
I wonder how many unsuspecting traditional GT fans they'll get with this by just having the GT name on the box. The series has had such wide appeal for so long I've got to imagine there will be a lot of people who don't seek out feature lists, previews, and reviews.
Nah, better GT5. This once had online gaming but that was disabled long ago.
I mean while that is the case literally the second sentence of the game's description it says this, even before you get to that part:
The description makes it quite clear that a focus of the game is online.
This is no different from SFV not really saving any progress when offline.
Can't wait till people find out that MMO's can be played offline, nor games like League of Legends and Dota 2.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Does it have crossplay!?
lol
soundscream
Member
Making a game to focus on esports is usually a terrible way to go. IT should happen naturally and you should never put it above the customers who want nothing to do with it.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Why not let customers create a strictly offline / SP save and let them save progress even without internet connection? That would prevent issues with cheating and also let people have a choice.
Instead we have gimped SP and now it's online only if you look at it realistically. I kind of expected this but still meh. Basically all recent racing games have large issues. Forza 7 is MTX/Lootboxes galore, PC2 is buggy as hell and now we have this GTS fiasco.
Instead we have gimped SP and now it's online only if you look at it realistically. I kind of expected this but still meh. Basically all recent racing games have large issues. Forza 7 is MTX/Lootboxes galore, PC2 is buggy as hell and now we have this GTS fiasco.
Yup. This game is equivalent to Destiny... which says Online Play (Required)
But i guess it is not "Required" for every single element of gameplay that is possible... But do you really want it to say "Optional" just because you can play without it, but not be able to save any progress?
"(Required for Progression)" ?
But they added the sticker on the Retail version for a reason... put the same message on PSN.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Depends on the game, doesn't it?
Maintenance
Member
thepenguin55
Member
I see what you're saying but just because it's clearly marked as requiring an online connection doesn't make it okay. That's just some lame CYA garbage from Sony. There's zero good reasons why you shouldn't be able to play single player only content offline. While I hate the term "lazy dev" because devs are generally anything but lazy, making the bulk of the single player content unavailable offline just feels so lazy. Like they couldn't be bothered to put in the time to figure out how to make that stuff available offline. That or it's just the result of the fact that all modern companies just live for data of any kind
Yep, the game basically comes with an (unknown) expiration date.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Oh wow, that's even worse then I thought. This shot is getting ridiculous yet we have the whole crowd here defending these anti-consumer practices.
AstroNut325
Member
The GaaS model means they'll support the game for a long time. I do agree that single player progress saves should still be offline though.
Ryu Hayabusa
Member
I miss CEO Kaz Hirai right now
Um... no... someone would totally read that and expect it is just talking about the multiplayer... that the single player content is outside of that and should save as any normal game would.
And SFV had no offline progress to save... did it?
IF GT Sport has no Offline Progress to save either, what are we even talking about?
Meanwhile, they are shutting the servers down for a game they released last year (Gravity Rush 2).
Xbox one was an always online focus console. Whys this point work here? But not for other